Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)

[New Era Outlaw]

and there we have it. i think this has been thoroughly discussed. i will create a new thread for ya'll to hash out one of the major issues i saw brought up here...

Topic re-opened.
And Deadeyes, if it was an issue brought up here, then I think it should stay here. Plus, you don't lock topics based on 'and there you have it', unless there is a clear end to the topic.

Carry on, people.                    

[Kayode]

Wait nah...he just lock a topic arbitrarily?
Wtf really goin on in this forum? What kinda crap is that?

Who make him a mod?

He lookin fuh something to do or what?                    

[TriniXaeno]

thanks outlaw.

a kata may seem like an act of concentration to you Kayode but that does not make it any less aggressive than reading a book.

In the example, it is still "more aggressive" and satisfys the question "Does playing violent video games make a person more aggressive" with a resounding "YES"

It applies to some people and this is undisputable.

(myself included, a few of my cousins included and my own son included)

After playing some Street Fighter, a "hittin game" shortly ensues, complete with hadoken and sho ryu kens. Kenshin iwmc!

It does not apply to ALL people and we explored that a lot in this thread.                    

[Mugsy]

i dont think so. Is all in the mind of the person to separate fantasy from reality. To incorporate things u see in a game into yuh everyday life is tha act of a crazy person.
Although i try a few smackdown moves on meh cousin already                    

[Kayode]

a kata may seem like an act of concentration to you Kayode

Nah, I not talking about what it seems like to me. I'm talking about what it is.

A kata is a form of aggression control, precise movement and concentration. It is meant to focus the mind and train the body.

Running around hitting things with a stick is not a kata.

Yuh could be sitting reading a book and getting damn vex and hateful at what yuh reading, like many neo-Nazis and young black men do when they read Mein Kampf and Malcolm X, so again, the comparisons are not objective.                    

[TriniXaeno]

yes but in my example, I am thinking of  a young child reading an Enid Blyton The Magic Of The Faraway Tree book.

as opposed to a young kid playing Soul Calibur 2 and then flailing around with a broom stick in the living room (attempting to perform a series of attacks in what mimics a kata but ultimately represents visibly aggressive behaviour)

Something for which he will be scolded by parents and teachers alike.

(breathes)

Do I make myself clear?? lol

As for deadeyes closin the thread, better proactive mods than non active mods.

He thought the thread had reached it's end but we still had some steam left in us afterall. Thanks again Neo for opening back the wound!

suhuweat!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Baego fires some rounds

                     

[butter_knife]

SO what i've learned from this thread...it makes people aggressive...BUT only temporarily?

i mean...its  not like jack the ripper decided to do his infamous acts from seeing his older brother play GTA...right?

I mean...what ever happened to plain ol' crazy ppl?

i do agree it makes the majority of us adrenaline pump after performing a combo, or going on a rampage but thats only in the moment, the excitement. same applies for when u get frustrated, u wanna fling the controller, but thats only temporary.
Games make us aggressive to a certain degree, in the spur of the moment.

You sh*t ur pants in doom 3 when u first encounter the chainsaw men in that small room
you wanna cry when the infamous sephiroth did his act
Jus as ur adrenaline pumps when u playin a CoD game
Or ur on a Kill Frenzy in GTA

all theses emotions are just temporary                    

[New Era Outlaw]

Wait nah...he just lock a topic arbitrarily?
Wtf really goin on in this forum? What kinda crap is that?

Who make him a mod?

He lookin fuh something to do or what?

 I'm sure he meant no harm.
He probably just assumed that the topic reached its peak, and did what he thought was best for the forum, in which case, I don't blame him. He just needs guidance as to what topics can stay and which can go, that's all.                        

[Kayode]

But since when did we start to lock threads after they've hit their peak?

There are dozens of other forum members who might have wanted to add something, the thread wasn't being spammed or flamed. It's days old.

Let it die a natural death by sinking off the page. Don't just close threads because you think it's done.                      

[camrE]

All a kata is, is practice. That’s all, paractice, practice, practice. Any martial art is about becoming 2nd nature, it is supposed become a "natural" reaction, just like how your eyes will blink if it sees an object coming to close. A kata is not about aggression.                      

[TriniXaeno]

camre
don't talk guff.

That kid is not doing a damn practice kata. He would not know a kata if it hit him in the face.

He is simply mimicing killik swinging around his stick in an aggressive fashion. (Read and Comprehend people!!) This is not a martial arts session in a dojo.

Same as a kid trying a macguyver stunt and killing himself.

A Pro Wrestling move and breaking his lil brother's neck.

(These things have happened)

We concur there are crazy people in this world butterknife! All we are discussing here are the effects on same by violent videogames.

Focus, focus.

I love your point about it being temporary.

In my instance, I've thrown less Kamehamehas since my interest in Dragon Ball Z lessoned over the years. So it's particular flavour of aggression was reduced over time. Temporary effect.

Nowadays I'm more likely to try a Kage Bushin No Jutsu or a Chidori on my foes.

Same for GTA. When I first played it, people on the road started looking like cannon fodder. Killing Spree immc!

Haven't touched the game in ages and I don't have those inklings to run over pedestrians anymore.

lol                    

[Mez]

hoss look where allyuh mc's reach
come with facts and common sense before you come with katas and broomsticks please                    

[TriniXaeno]

if is just facts and common sense we comin with, the thread would be over in 2 posts.

steups

let us have an opinion and muse.

It's more fun that way.

mc!                    

[DeadEyes]

it's true, with a child it's called mimicry, because he/she's not at the age to fully comprehend the purpose and intent of the Kata, I can tell you, (since i was a practising martial artist) a kata is indeed what Camre pointed it out to be, it's supposed to imprint the moves into the person so it becomes a part of him, as a reaction and not a thinking action. the other aspect of it is as Kayode stated, it is a way of instilling Discipline, concentration and increasing self control

here's my point, it may be the case, but it all depends on the use the individual puts his art to, some use it to protect, some to harm, it comes down to the person and their choice, i may choose not to slam a palm heel strike into the throat of a big guy who decides to mess with me, i know i can take him or even kill him, but it's up to the person and what choice they make                    

[MASTER_RAGE3]

i dont think the game have to do with violence but i think music does                    

[TriniXaeno]

music fueling aggression.

another good angle most deserving of a thread.                    

[DeadEyes]

not only music, there's television as well                    

[camrE]

Media! why dont we just say media to cover all bases??                    

[TriniXaeno]

I did Camre!!

Read my earlier posts. lol

Glad to see we on the same page though.

Progress iwmc.                    

[ProtoJoe]

An online gamer was sentenced to death after murdering a fellow player — in real life — because of a dispute over a virtual weapon used in a fantasy game. Qiu Chengwei, 41, was found guilty of stabbing to death Zhu Caoyuan, a fellow player of 'Legend of Mir III'.

His sentence was suspended for 2 years and could be reduced to 15 years in prison with good behaviour.

Qiu confronted Zhu in February after learning that he sold the virtual weapon lent to him by Qiu.
Qiu reported the loss of the Dragon Sabre to police but was told it wasn’t real property protected by the law.

Prosecutors said Zhu promised to hand over the 7,200 yuan, the equivalent of about $870 US, that he received but Qiu grew impatient and attacked Zhu at his home, stabbing him repeatedly in the chest. Zhu “was sleeping when Qiu broke into his home.

Online fantasy games — often violent — are hugely popular in China, attracting tens of millions of players.