Author Topic: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...  (Read 4809 times)

Offline Beomagi

  • Chunin
  • **
  • Posts: 489
  • Chakra 6
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« on: December 06, 2005, 11:58:49 PM »
My sweetie back home and myself were running up rather high phone bills, and her pc wasn't reliable enough to stay alive long enough for a chat or even boot sometimes. So i decided to make her a small pc (christmas present). Painted the mouse and one panel of the computer pink. (i'll post pics later  ^_^ )

Anyway i went cheap - sempron64 2800+ (1.6GHz), Asrock 6100 motherboard, 1 GB of memory.  If you want more details, I started a thread elsewhere http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=333145#333145 on how it handles games, the parts, and general impressions.

Overall, the results were ok at first, but the overclocking was amazing. The chip skyrocketed from 1.6GHz to 2.32GHz - a 45% increase in speed.
no voltage increases to the chip

The ram was also impressive going to 440MHz without error (no voltage increases here either)

testing was a night of prime 95 - a-o-k.

Happy Overclocking this Christmas, to all!
:P random text doesn't go out of date does it?

Carigamers

Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« on: December 06, 2005, 11:58:49 PM »

Offline richjob

  • Jonin
  • ***
  • Posts: 680
  • Chakra 0
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2005, 03:35:03 PM »
This is indeed interesting.  I'm in the midst of rebuilding my "office" Windows box with that speed of Sempron (don't think that it is a 64-bit, though.)

So it overclocks well, eh...


*thinks*

Stock fan, right?

----------------------------
There used to be a URL here.

Offline Beomagi

  • Chunin
  • **
  • Posts: 489
  • Chakra 6
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2005, 06:23:33 PM »
stock fan - brought my room temp up, and had a heater blowing at it so even though it's winter, it was hotter than any room i've been in back home, brought the cpu up to 48C, though overclocked, normally it's only at 36C tops- i test my pc's like this because after i'm done with it, they end up back home.

and the new semprons do support 64 bit and have a "sempron64" moniker to compete with intel's inclusion of 64 bit instructions to celerons.
:P random text doesn't go out of date does it?

Offline Arcmanov

  • Administrator
  • Akatsuki
  • *****
  • Posts: 10642
  • Country: tt
  • Chakra 126
  • Gamer/Enthusiast
    • :n64: :gcn: :dreamcast: :xbox360: :computer:
  • Referrals: 1
    • View Profile
    • Arcmanov's rig
  • CPU: Intel Core i7 5820K @ 4.3 GHz
  • GPU: 2 x [Gigabyte] GeForce GTX 1070
  • RAM: 4 x 8GB G.Skill.TridentZ RGB DDR4-2400
  • Broadband: :flow:
  • MBL: LG V20
  • Origin ID: Arcmanov
  • PSN: Arcmanov
  • Steam: Arcmanov
  • XBL: Arcmanov
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2005, 10:00:47 PM »
Very true what Beomagi said.  I recently built a system for a pardner with that Sempron 64 2800 (socket 754), and was MIGHTY suprised with its performance.  Even with games.  Fling a 6600 GT or a 6800, and it will actually run all current gen games very comfortably.
Systems United Navy - Accipiens ad Astra


Offline TriniXaeno

  • Administrator
  • Akatsuki
  • *****
  • Posts: 18836
  • Country: tt
  • Chakra 14
    • :ps3::wii::xbox360:
  • Referrals: 35
    • View Profile
    • http://www.carigamers.com
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
  • GPU: Geforce GTX 680 2GB
  • RAM: 16GB
  • Broadband: :flow:
  • MBL: Nexus 5x
  • PSN: TriniXaeno
  • XBL: TriniXaeno
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2005, 10:12:28 PM »
Not wanting to rain on the OC parade, but we have built countless sempron socket 754 machines and to be honest, I don't even see the need to overclock them.

They are plenty fast enough at stock.

Don't have a single game that runs "slow" as a result of the CPU.

Better to increase the video card performance (by oc or otherwise) than to muck about with the processor.

Carigamers

Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2005, 10:12:28 PM »

Offline Beomagi

  • Chunin
  • **
  • Posts: 489
  • Chakra 6
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2005, 11:20:23 PM »
Not just for gaming!!!!!

and a 45% oc helps greatly - period.
some aspects in games are amazingly hard on cpu - shadows especially. Try killing shadows in doom 3. It's a BIG change, and almost fully CPU dependant.
:P random text doesn't go out of date does it?

Offline TriniXaeno

  • Administrator
  • Akatsuki
  • *****
  • Posts: 18836
  • Country: tt
  • Chakra 14
    • :ps3::wii::xbox360:
  • Referrals: 35
    • View Profile
    • http://www.carigamers.com
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
  • GPU: Geforce GTX 680 2GB
  • RAM: 16GB
  • Broadband: :flow:
  • MBL: Nexus 5x
  • PSN: TriniXaeno
  • XBL: TriniXaeno
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2005, 11:41:35 PM »
like I said, we've played Doom 3 just fine on those systems without need of the overclock.

No one has yet to complain that the shadows need to run faster. lol

Video Card being the key.

Let me here what else your girl friend would intend to do that requires that CPU speed boost? What other app would need more oomph than a stock 2800 Sempron 64 could provide?

I will be very impressed if you could come up with more than five. (If any at all)

Offline Beomagi

  • Chunin
  • **
  • Posts: 489
  • Chakra 6
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2005, 12:57:55 AM »
I agree she doesn't need the speed, but you're arguing against a 45% oc that didn't affect stability or temperature... Why wouldn't you OC it anyway?

For the moment, it's encoding blockbuster dvds, my pvr recordings, and folding.

My gf probably wont mind my old p2 400MHz, but i'm not going to give her something like that. The computer is more responsive after the overclock, and while it's not amazingly faster or responsive, it's noticable.

If you read the system specs, you'll realize WHY the cpu boost was bigger for me than normal. Given that this is going to be her pc, the toughest thing she's probably going to run would be google earth - so i went with a 6100 to cheap-out on video. Taking off shadows gave a huge boost, with this collection of hardware. I went from an 11fps max, to 15-40 fps.

Of course videocard is key for gaming, no argument there. But in this case, it makes a bigger difference.
:P random text doesn't go out of date does it?

Offline TriniXaeno

  • Administrator
  • Akatsuki
  • *****
  • Posts: 18836
  • Country: tt
  • Chakra 14
    • :ps3::wii::xbox360:
  • Referrals: 35
    • View Profile
    • http://www.carigamers.com
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
  • GPU: Geforce GTX 680 2GB
  • RAM: 16GB
  • Broadband: :flow:
  • MBL: Nexus 5x
  • PSN: TriniXaeno
  • XBL: TriniXaeno
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2005, 09:01:02 AM »
lol

A for effort.

Though I am surprised that a 45% cpu OC would cause a 300% increase in FPS performance. (From 11 - 40)

To me, unless she was into encoding and folding herself, I wouldn't go down the OC route.

If she was into Doom 3, I'd slap in a better video card to get her up to 60fps +. Even if it meant going with a cheaper CPU to afford it.

That's the angle I was coming from.

To me, since the CPU isn't such a bottleneck anymore, especially at Sempron 2800+ level, it isn't worth the stability risk to have every tom dick and harry trying to OC the bejezus out of 'em.

Hard Core Techies like yourself, Richjob, W1ntry, Synth, etc....by all means!

but gf, moms, grandma?? Hell No! lol



Offline Beomagi

  • Chunin
  • **
  • Posts: 489
  • Chakra 6
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2005, 09:13:30 AM »
no, the oc didn't cause that - the dropping shadows did. the oc just made a playability difference at that res.

She isn't here yet - so that chip is going to enjoy stretching it's legs for now.

when she takes it home, it would be chucked back to 2.13 GHz, but i dont see a need to drop it lower than that - it's proving plenty stable running prime/folding, and the OC didn't raise temps much.

Either way, It's great info to all us techies. I decided to share, that it's a cheap chip that can garner a pretty high OC, and while as you pointed out she may not be one to utilize it fully, we can.

edit : she may absorb my geeky nature over time - she's going to have to teach IT next year... ^_^
« Last Edit: December 08, 2005, 09:15:56 AM by Beomagi »
:P random text doesn't go out of date does it?

Offline TriniXaeno

  • Administrator
  • Akatsuki
  • *****
  • Posts: 18836
  • Country: tt
  • Chakra 14
    • :ps3::wii::xbox360:
  • Referrals: 35
    • View Profile
    • http://www.carigamers.com
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
  • GPU: Geforce GTX 680 2GB
  • RAM: 16GB
  • Broadband: :flow:
  • MBL: Nexus 5x
  • PSN: TriniXaeno
  • XBL: TriniXaeno
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2005, 01:16:54 PM »
lol, well done.

Spread the geek influence

Good post, no...great post.

Offline JoKeRs

  • Genin
  • *
  • Posts: 123
  • Chakra -5
  • 100 posts 14th Dec 05
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2005, 01:59:35 PM »
GREAT TAKE ON HOW OC AFFECTS  EVERYONE

LOL ONCE AGAIN GREAT POST

SEMPRONS HAVE BECOME THE ULTIMATE CHEAP OC CPU

I HAD A SEMPRON 2500+
STOCK WOULD RUN 1.75 GHZ

OCED TO 2.3GHZ STABLE

ON ROSEWILL 1 GB STICK
AND .75 GHZ (512+256)OFF LEFT OVER RAM STICKS ALL PC 3200
SATA 160GB
ATA 120GB

FX 5200 PCI 256 MB LE


RAN OK
PROBLEM DISCOVERED LATER IS FX SUCKS
SO GAMES LAGGED MODERATELY

JUST TO REITERATE SEMPRONS ROCK FOR OCING

ALL HAIL THE OUT SIDERS :wacko:


(\__/)
( O.o )
( > < )This is Bunny.
Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination

Offline Netizen1

  • Global Moderator
  • Kage
  • *
  • Posts: 1764
  • Country: tt
  • Chakra 10
  • save de Earth, iz de only planet with chocolate!
    • :ps3: :psp:
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
    • Trinidad Christian Center
  • Broadband: :flow:
  • PSN: Netizen1
  • Steam: Netizen1
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2005, 12:37:00 PM »
indeed, take chakura iymc

although I did get a lil tief head when I read the topic. thought it was the S939 version of the sempron that was finally available...

* Voyd goes back to waiting patiently...

Good Post :ph34r:

Offline theShark

  • Genin
  • *
  • Posts: 61
  • Chakra -4
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
    • http://
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2005, 09:11:49 AM »
like I said, we've played Doom 3 just fine on those systems without need of the overclock.


if 800x600 low quality is good for you don't rain on the man parade

Offline TriniXaeno

  • Administrator
  • Akatsuki
  • *****
  • Posts: 18836
  • Country: tt
  • Chakra 14
    • :ps3::wii::xbox360:
  • Referrals: 35
    • View Profile
    • http://www.carigamers.com
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
  • GPU: Geforce GTX 680 2GB
  • RAM: 16GB
  • Broadband: :flow:
  • MBL: Nexus 5x
  • PSN: TriniXaeno
  • XBL: TriniXaeno
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2005, 03:13:57 AM »
We run it with higher settings than that.

Is Nvidia 6600 GTs in those machines we talkin bout here.

This man runnin 2800 with onboard video.

The point still stands. If you want even better quality Doom 3 with better performance, get a better card.

Not a better CPU.

Even a 2500 Sempron with a 6600GT will do better than a AMD 4800+ and onboard video at Doom 3.

Offline theShark

  • Genin
  • *
  • Posts: 61
  • Chakra -4
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
    • http://
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2005, 08:02:44 AM »
experience does not mean accuracy of fact

your point is valid but in your scenario based on your needs. Your needs does not = needs of the rest of the world.

Doom is not the be all end all of games, there are games that are more cpu intensive than gpu intensive.

ON TOPIC, the man said he gets free performance increase by overlcocking, who are you to tell the man he should buy a new video card for better performance instead of overlcocking? It wasn't even an issue.

Also, there is performance increase from higher MHz other than gaming.

Offline TriniXaeno

  • Administrator
  • Akatsuki
  • *****
  • Posts: 18836
  • Country: tt
  • Chakra 14
    • :ps3::wii::xbox360:
  • Referrals: 35
    • View Profile
    • http://www.carigamers.com
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
  • GPU: Geforce GTX 680 2GB
  • RAM: 16GB
  • Broadband: :flow:
  • MBL: Nexus 5x
  • PSN: TriniXaeno
  • XBL: TriniXaeno
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2005, 08:15:59 PM »
Keep your panty on.

It was a comment not an instruction.

Doom is just one of a billion gaming examples where the GPU affects performance moreso than the CPU. This is the age that we live in. CPU is no longer king.

Ofcourse I am speaking from a gaming stand point.

For the vast majority of games GPU = first priority.

OC of the CPU = second.

Remember, an elcheapo Sempron 2500 is no slouch. It is not like Beomagi was running a Celeron 600Mhz.

Offline theShark

  • Genin
  • *
  • Posts: 61
  • Chakra -4
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
    • http://
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2005, 08:31:53 PM »
Doom is just one of a billion gaming examples where the GPU affects performance moreso than the CPU. This is the age that we live in. CPU is no longer king.

Ofcourse I am speaking from a gaming stand point.

For the vast majority of games GPU = first priority.

OC of the CPU = second.

Remember, an elcheapo Sempron 2500 is no slouch. It is not like Beomagi was running a Celeron 600Mhz.


you don't need to repeat this like a da

Offline TriniXaeno

  • Administrator
  • Akatsuki
  • *****
  • Posts: 18836
  • Country: tt
  • Chakra 14
    • :ps3::wii::xbox360:
  • Referrals: 35
    • View Profile
    • http://www.carigamers.com
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
  • GPU: Geforce GTX 680 2GB
  • RAM: 16GB
  • Broadband: :flow:
  • MBL: Nexus 5x
  • PSN: TriniXaeno
  • XBL: TriniXaeno
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2005, 09:43:47 PM »
no need to spam either

Offline theShark

  • Genin
  • *
  • Posts: 61
  • Chakra -4
  • Referrals: 0
    • View Profile
    • http://
Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2005, 07:28:47 AM »
*Offensive Language*
« Last Edit: December 30, 2005, 02:03:47 PM by UberMod »

Carigamers

Re: Amazing chip that low end sempron64...
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2005, 07:28:47 AM »

 


* ShoutBox

Refresh History
  • Crimson609: yea everything cool how are you?
    August 10, 2022, 07:26:15 AM
  • Pain_Killer: Good day, what's going on with you guys? Is everything Ok?
    February 21, 2021, 05:30:10 PM
  • Crimson609: BOOM covid-19
    August 15, 2020, 01:07:30 PM
  • Shinsoo: bwda 2020 shoutboxing. omg we are in the future and in the past at the same time!
    March 03, 2020, 06:42:47 AM
  • TriniXjin: Watch Black Clover Everyone!
    February 01, 2020, 06:30:00 PM
  • Crimson609: lol
    February 01, 2020, 05:05:53 PM
  • Skitz: So fellas how we go include listing for all dem parts for pc on we profile but doh have any place for motherboard?
    January 24, 2020, 09:11:33 PM
  • Crimson609: :ph34r:
    January 20, 2019, 09:23:28 PM
  • Crimson609: Big up ya whole slef
    January 20, 2019, 09:23:17 PM
  • protomanex: Gyul like Link
    January 20, 2019, 09:23:14 PM
  • protomanex: Man like Kitana
    January 20, 2019, 09:22:39 PM
  • protomanex: Man like Chappy
    January 20, 2019, 09:21:53 PM
  • protomanex: Gyul Like Minato
    January 20, 2019, 09:21:48 PM
  • protomanex: Gyul like XJin
    January 20, 2019, 09:19:53 PM
  • protomanex: Shout out to man like Crimson
    January 20, 2019, 09:19:44 PM
  • Crimson609: shout out to gyal like Corbie Gonta
    January 20, 2019, 09:19:06 PM
  • cold_187: Why allur don't make a discord or something?
    December 03, 2018, 06:17:38 PM
  • Red Paradox: https://www.twitch.tv/flippay1985 everyday from 6:00pm
    May 29, 2018, 09:40:09 AM
  • Red Paradox: anyone play EA Sports UFC 3.. Looking for a challenge. PSN: Flippay1985 :)
    May 09, 2018, 11:00:52 PM
  • cold_187: @TriniXjin not really, I may have something they need (ssd/ram/mb etc.), hence why I also said "trade" ;)
    February 05, 2018, 10:22:14 AM

SimplePortal 2.3.3 © 2008-2010, SimplePortal