Author Topic: Wireless BroadBand Option (Read 17910 times)

StarCon · « **Reply #60 on:** February 05, 2005, 10:18:50 PM »

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it have something call worse in my vocabulary. you can still play good game with 150ping, you may not be able to but i sure as hell can. so imagine if you getting 150 ping with dsl what you go get on satelite? twice/three times as worse, you looking at not playable at all, not even with flak/grenade.

of course you can play a good game @150ms - i used to play q2 on a 33.6 dial up connection on heat.net (rip) and had lots of fun.

With isdn I got pings around 90 ms and that was (and is) great for
classic dm, ctf you name it.

tournaments and all that clan stuff, where you have to win,
can be quite frustrating against low pingers (and that might just be the case with international matches) - I think that's what kayode was looking at.

so.. gaming is in fact possible on tstt dsl
- tourneys/proper sniping&instagibbing imho not w/o frustration =)

So personally, I find the offer great - they're connecting the community - and allowing people like me, who are too lazy to get their butt to a gl, to play against the gatt elite

Carigamers · « **Reply #60 on:** February 05, 2005, 10:18:50 PM »

platinum006 · « **Reply #61 on:** February 05, 2005, 11:05:59 PM »

this is d real thing....bun down tstt and let we start d real stuff....i hope this available in cumuto....cause i want it....i just want to get rid of tstt....

Rampage · « **Reply #62 on:** February 05, 2005, 11:06:54 PM »

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it would be logical that those 3 satelites are placed all across the island, like one in east, one in north and one in south or something. if you living in a place that does real rain an thing like chaguanas i go hear bout you anyway if the ADSL network goes down you can always use dialup on the same account.
trinidad is just over 5000km 2 .... i'd think there'd be ALOT of overlapping by those sattelites ...........

*sigh*
we go see yes.

SUPR3M3 · « **Reply #63 on:** February 06, 2005, 12:03:59 AM »

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does your cell phone service get affected by weather much ? this service operates on an even HIGHER frequency , clouds and static would not affect it much,

u have so much redemtion to do it's rediculous. Keep talkin, I enjoy the laughs.

Good Times.

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #64 on:** February 06, 2005, 08:31:21 AM »

Great posts and great questions.

Let me have a go at Kayodes concerns first and foremost.

This is meant to compliment the international gaming scene in the short run, NOT REPLACE IT.

That is, we don't expect people with DSL who want to play international games competitively over the internet to switch to this service at this moment. Not until the fibre/dsl internet backbone option is in place.

In fact, the GLs will be retaining their DSL connections as well. The wireless backbone will be just that, a wireless backbone to connect all of them together, providing no internet services whatsoever.

For gamers outside of the DSL service areas, this will be an excellent option for them to game against all other members on the network and ESPECIALLY those in the GLs.

So you can have islandwide tournaments at "lan like" speeds. 20-30ms ping for a national unreal 2004 5v5 Onslaught tourney with $5000 first prize. North vs South vs East vs West.

Instead of a pocket of mini tourney's in each GL with $500 first prize.

I hope that makes it clearer.

Also, this will save John Doe clan member from having to run down to the GL to participate if he has the service at home. We will be hosting a teamspeak server so he can join his clan's channel and be right on point for the action with audio chat through a headset.

Now for Rampage and the satellites.

The three Sats will be at three different locations but EACH will be able to service the entire network. They will be themselves connected via the wireles backhaul. That means if cloud cover in central somehow managed to affect Sat 1, people on the network in chaguanas will be seamlessly routed through Sat 2 in
Port of Spain via the wireless backhaul (which is not affected by weather).

So to conclude:

Green.dot 512k Gaming Intranet + 256K Internet

PROS

- Same speed as TSTT for downloads (32K)
- Same price as TSTT
- Turbo speed Intranet to sweat with people in Trinidad who have the service.
-Turbo Speed intranet backbone for the GLs
- No phone line required, no phone bill to pay
- Free installation ($500 value)
- Greater coverage and availability to Trinidadians and Tobagonians
- Free consolidated hosting of GATT servers on their network data center to provide dedicated, high performance, high bandwidth sweat for gamers and the GLs.
- Great for Local P2P networks
- Great for VOIP
- Great customer service (24/7 support)

CONS
- Terrible for online gaming on foreign servers
- Terrible for online gaming with anyone who isn't with Green Dot.
- Bad for INTERNATIONAL P2P networks
- Not portable.
- Line of Sight dependent

TSTT 256k DSL Residential DSL
$400.00

Pros:
-Great for international gaming
-Great for sweat against other users with the service

Cons:
- Strange persistent time out problem (Web pages and MSN messenger)
- Poor availability
- Additional costs (you have to pay at least $30-40 extra a month for the phone line, worse if someone uses the phone)
- Horrible customer service

Anyone want to add some more to these for both companies offerings in case I missed any?

Now lets talk a little about what the future might hold.

As is, Green Dot are keen to work with us and provide a solution tailored to our needs. They also plan to go with a land line based internet backbone solution in the future so we will see some of the Cons turn into Pros if they get the number of subscribers they are looking for.

The way I see it, if they are offering us a great package and we can really turn out some strong numbers for them and in turn they are able to justify the costs of bringing on a fibre/dsl backbone for our international gaming needs we would have achieved the holy grail and a TRUE alternative to TSTT for high speed downloads, gaming islandwide and internationally.

As is, this is an incredible opportunity not to be taken lightly.

If all goes well at the end of 2005 you will be looking at the ultimate gaming network in the caribbean.

They will also have the ultimate marketing force, both from word of mouth from membership and massive tournament promotions.

A great relationship.

Again, keep up the awesome questions and feedback. They are reading this thread so these comment will influence decisions and you can expect responses from their management directly.

Carigamers · « **Reply #64 on:** February 06, 2005, 08:31:21 AM »

Kayode · « **Reply #65 on:** February 06, 2005, 12:00:11 PM »

TSTT 256k DSL Residential DSL
$400.00

Pros:
-Great for international gaming
-Great for sweat against other users with the service
-Good for all P2P Networks.
-Great for VOIP
-Portable

Cons:
- Strange persistent time out problem (Web pages and MSN messenger)
- Poor availability
- Additional costs (you have to pay at least $30-40 extra a month for the phone line, worse if someone uses the phone)
- Horrible customer service

Green.dot 512k Gaming Intranet + 256K Internet

PROS

- Same speed as TSTT for downloads (32K)
- Same price as TSTT
- Turbo speed Intranet to sweat and swap files with people in Trinidad who have the service.
- No phone line required, no phone bill to pay
- Free installation ($500 value)
- Greater coverage and availability to Trinidadians and Tobagonians
- Free consolidated hosting of GATT servers on their network data center to provide dedicated, high performance, high bandwidth sweat for gamers and the GLs.
- Great for VOIP
- 24/7 customer service

CONS
- Terrible for online gaming on foreign servers
- Terrible for online gaming with anyone who isn't with Green Dot.
- Bad for INTERNATIONAL P2P networks
- Not portable.
- Line of Sight dependent

Some of the Green Dot pros were redundant. And some sound iffy, like "Great Customer Service". Most yuh could say is 24/7 customer service.

Also, is there a final, solid list of which areas will be serviced upon the ISP's official public launch? Because saying that "they will be able to" doesn't say much. As loathe as I am to back them up, TSTT is widening their coverage area all the time. So those two points tend to cancel each other out.

I still see this as a great option for people who have no TSTT DSL access, and something good for the GLs, but nothing to drop a TSTT account for. But best of luck.

StarCon · « **Reply #66 on:** February 06, 2005, 12:37:48 PM »

@greendot

it would be very nice, if you could post a signup-form pdf in the forums.

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #67 on:** February 06, 2005, 01:25:08 PM »

cool, this goes for everyone, feel free to challenge the ones that sound iffy and we can decide on the best wording to make them not obscure and as infallable as possible.

Also, the redundant ones.

As for actual coverage.

Port of Spain
Diego Martin
West Moorings
East West Corridor
Chaguanas

(and environs applies to all of these)

A 10 mile radius from each access point is typical.

There is a lot of work that needs to take place before a proper geographic map of trinidad showing the coverage is generated. That is the only reason it has not been done yet.

It will be done but is going to take some time and a lot of testing.

If you understand the nature of this particular technology, you won't have any doubts. I'll ask and see if I can divulge some of the details.

Wa_DoDem · « **Reply #68 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:56:52 PM »

ok beago i ready to beta test i in la romaine .....

Wa_DoDem · « **Reply #69 on:** February 09, 2005, 11:10:30 PM »

yes beago or grean dot guy what iz the up speed of a of 256k ??

Greendot · « **Reply #70 on:** February 10, 2005, 04:55:16 PM »

Some info relating to some of the points :

1. The proposed relationship is not intended to get everyone to switch provider to Green Dot. If a member is happy with TSTT and the local 512K connection is not to valuable, then it makes sense for the member to stay with TSTT
2. The backbone Satellite connections do not get affected by cloud cover or bad weather - there are many types of Satellite services some of which are easily affected by bad weather, but the backbone of Green Dot will be using the more expensive, reliable and better performing Satellite services to ensure that weather does not affect the service. Sun Spots are the only thing that will affect the service, which will cause downtime for a few minutes, 2 times a year (I believe in March and September) and Sun Spots affect ALL satellite communications.
3) The fact that Green Dot will have multiple Satellite connections is not to combat weather problems, but to have redundancy in the event that a Satellite fails. The reason that they will be located at different locations is also for redundancy in the event that a locations burns down or something drastic like that.
4) The website is still being updated and we will have an online sign up procedure. However, you can go to our temporary website at www.mail.tt and register your interest and we will call you back to discuss the service / options.
5) We will officially start selling the gaming solution to members once the beta test is complete (hopefully by end of next week). At this stage, we are only signing up straightforward high speed Internet customers
6) We will provide more details on coverage - however, currently we can see what was outlined above, however we will be within 1 month expanding to South and Arima. Following this, other areas will come on line very quickly. Tobago will be on by middle of April.
7) Our standard Internet residential package is 64K up. The local connections will be 512K symmetric.

Let me know if you have any further questions - you can either email me at sales@mail.tt or I will reply to this forum.

Thanks

Green Dot Limited

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #71 on:** February 10, 2005, 05:04:10 PM »

Thanks for clearing those up Green Dot.

Some members also expressed interest in any employment opportunities. Are there openings? If yes, for what positions and what prerequisites?

Greendot · « **Reply #72 on:** February 10, 2005, 05:33:13 PM »

Yes there are opportunities. We are looking for positions in the following roles :

Dispatch Team or Installation team - currently looking for 2 people to install equipment etc at customer locations.
Customer Service people - Need customer service people to work evening (4pm until midnight) and late shift (midnight to 8am).
Sales Dept - Looking for sales people to develop new business and manage existing customers.

For now, the positions are entry level positions with opportunity for any individual to grow into a more senior position. The technical team is currently OK - however, will probably need more in the coming months.

There will be other positions very soon, but that's it for now. There

We are looking for people with the right attitude as opposed to experience. We will teach the individuals what they need to know.

If anyone is interested, please email your resume to sales@mail.tt

Green Dot Limited

DeadEyes · « **Reply #73 on:** February 11, 2005, 09:49:36 AM »

thanks a lot there greendot. you will be seeing my resume very very soon. i have lots of customer service experience and i want to shift to the It industry. and with regard to the service i have to get some more info on it

Crixx_Creww · « **Reply #74 on:** February 11, 2005, 01:12:24 PM »

that 512 k sym is very very cool green dot guy.

the oppurtunities seem great as well.

Making a great addition to the progress of the company.

Might see my resume soon as well, although you said that the technical team is ok. ill show yu mine if yu show me yurs.
lol

Bsensei · « **Reply #75 on:** February 14, 2005, 09:17:22 AM »

Well you all saying soon soon steups

Sensei done send he own already

they eh respond yet though

Czar · « **Reply #76 on:** February 14, 2005, 09:54:29 AM »

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will this work with XBOX live?

It will, but the pings may kill you...unless you gaming with locals...

StarCon · « **Reply #77 on:** February 14, 2005, 10:15:37 AM »

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Well you all saying soon soon steups

Sensei done send he own already biggrin.gif they eh respond yet though sad.gif

same here, no reply - they seem to be quite busy atm =)

Bsensei · « **Reply #78 on:** February 14, 2005, 10:58:52 PM »

Yes actually i got a reply tonight and they stated they are extremely busy and havent had a chance to examine my resume but soon they will contact me

SUPR3M3 · « **Reply #79 on:** February 14, 2005, 11:04:34 PM »

What's the salary like?
Someone PM me this info please. Thanks.

Carigamers · « **Reply #79 on:** February 14, 2005, 11:04:34 PM »

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