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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2004, 11:12:42 PM »
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http://www.computing.net/windows2000/wwwboard/forum/57158.html



I don't agree since accessing ram will always be faster than going to hard drive.                    

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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2004, 11:12:42 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2004, 11:21:08 PM »
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What is the sense of having more than 1GB of RAM or even 2GB to ensure you really don't need the pagefile? Once you cross 1GB you see very little performance gain.



Depends on how you measure "performance gain". Obviously if the whole program can fit in ram then loading/access time will be most optimal. Hard drive thrashing is very annoying to say the least and will happen if you run out of memory to hold your program(s). That said, unless your system actually uses (frequently enough) that much ram, and unless you tweak your pagefile settings (set min and max to same), a typical user won't notice more than 512MB muchless 1GB+.                    

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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2004, 11:34:56 PM »
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yes yes you can, with XP not 2000


Win2k forces min size to "2MB" in OS itself. However, you can still manually set to zero. On startup it will always complain about a non existant pagefile, but you can ignore the warning.                    

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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2004, 11:39:01 PM »
But on the flipside, here a quote -

" Virtual memory is a safety net. If you have a leaky app or a resource hogging app running on your system your machine will BSOD as soon as physical memory is eaten up."                    

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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2004, 11:46:36 PM »
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I always thought if u have 512 and up u dont need a page file

just asking!



Assuming you could run without a pagefile without any of your programs complaining...well the need for a pagefile is determined soley by how much ram you use on average and at max. In other words if you never exceed your amount of ram, then you don't "need" a pagefile.                    

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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2004, 11:46:36 PM »

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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2004, 11:50:11 PM »
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What about video encoding?
Would you require more ram?
if u have 512


The actual process of encoding does not up that much ram, unless your using ram hungry processing filters.

512mb would be more than enough.                    

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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2004, 11:51:02 PM »
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What about video encoding?
Would you require more ram?
if u have 512


The actual process of encoding does not up that much ram, unless your using ram hungry processing filters.

Its not how much ram you have but how much FREE ram is available for the program to use!                    

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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2004, 11:55:27 PM »
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all the ram will run at pc100 speed at best.

At worst, system instability, ram not being recognized, things like that.



The ram will run at whatever you set it to run at or the system sets it to.

You can run most pc100 at 133 though you may have to set to weak timings for it to be stable.

As for not recognized...well that could happen to ANY stick of ram.                    

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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2004, 11:59:59 PM »
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What about video encoding?  
Would you require more ram?  
if u have 512


From my experience>NO>I encoded already on 256MB and program didn't take up much RAM (Tmpgenc).


remember he's also DISABLING all virtual memory, so he's gonna need more



Well he will need more ONLY IF hes already using up near all his ram currently, or will be using it up in the future. In that case he will have not enough free for situations like what I quoted in this thread.                    

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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2004, 12:12:12 AM »
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if u have 1gb and u have the pagefile....should i get any probs. with old p.grams?



Not unless they are badly designed, in which case they probably would throw a fit just for your system having so much memory period - not being able to tell how much is actually there, muchless being able to use it.                    

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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2004, 12:17:50 PM »
i also have (a) maad processor(s) to go with it. but heres a nex q...

for those old apps that say dem want a pagefile blah blah... if i make a ramdisk an i put de page file on de ram disk... dat go work? an i talkin bout startin up de computer without a pagefile, den creatin one on a ramdisk if a programme wants a page file...                    

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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2004, 10:39:03 PM »
1. Have system with pagefile already.
2. Create ramdisk.
3. On reboot move pagefile to ramdisk.

Note: You can't make a ramdisk on the fly just to suit a particular program's request. The OS/program handles memory management. While it is technically possible to have such a program it doesn't exist as far as I know.                    

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« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2004, 01:41:40 AM »
no no.... ler we say i doh have a page file wen de computer start... so everyting in ram...

den i come across a programme dat want a page file...

i make a ramdisk...

den i make de page file in dat ting in de computer properties on de ram disk                    

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« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2004, 12:48:40 PM »
eh i start runnin de computer without a pagefile, but de ting still sayin it have one in de task manager (though it dont exist on the hd or in the option area to turn it off)                    

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