who is the best, east or the west ?

[Rommel]

NEITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


when I went down to the new SNS! and met the people who I enteract with on the forums I discovered two very annoying facts

the first, east men play too much sof and as a result their best are on a level that just about every west man can't compete with, with very few exceptions

the second, east men play too much sof and as a result their skills in many other games on the PC somewhat lack, with some exceptions

the resulting stalemate, in that east will dominate sof and the west will dominate quite a few games, is what frustrates me

another thing that a wise moderator told me after that day is that, generally speaking, west men aren't serious about gaming, and I agree with this totally
only for the skill of our best can we not suck; but when the east no longer has problems with availability of games who knows ?

basically you don't see the skill of the west at the highest level, but it is there in many games, and you only see the skill of the east at the highest level in a handful of computer games

because of this, the competition between the two "sides" sucks and there is no clear claim as to who is better                    

[Czar]

Well alrighty then

So what are we gonna do about it then? Bring more sweats to the west and more new games to the east?                    

[Xen_spartan-117]

west men arent serious about gaming? rommel please mc.....when i go abroad to any country, my first reaction is to look around for a popular gaming store and game it out...
besides east side gamers take SOF seriously...yet most of the times online they'll get banned for pulling out an m4 in the normal mods.... if they take it so seriously play online....make a clan...get a name for the country rather than wasting time showing off your big skills cuz you have an m4 and your life öh im good"                    

[Mercusho_Arazi]

spartan have a point there i in the west and i really doh take games that seriously but it have some west men with skills                    

[PapaSmurf]

the first, east men play too much sof and as a result their best are on a level that just about every west man can't compete with, with very few exceptions  

the second, east men play too much sof and as a result their skills in many other games on the PC somewhat lack, with some exceptions  

the resulting stalemate, in that east will dominate sof and the west will dominate quite a few games, is what frustrates me  

Exactly. You have analysed it beautifully. The main problem: Too much Sof. With soo many newer and better games COD, UT2k4, Ravenshield (just to name a few) the majority of GATT is inclined to go back to "Fyah in de hole" gaming. Why?

Specialization. It's easier to not train and be good at something u are familiar with than it is to train and totally suck at at unfamiliar game. All you need to do in Sof is jump, run foward, fling grenades and shoot straight. Refine these basic concepts with months of repetition...and the Barn is yr kingdom. SOF Gatter suffer from love of habit. There is no willingness to leave the barn and look for new   Elim stages. Or Dm, TDM COTF for that matter. All because we are afraid that we might actually suck at something new to us. And if the average SOF player is afraid to leave the barn, how the france u gonna get him to click "Quit" ?

All it boils down to, is that the majority of ppl in east and west, with few exceptions, would rather be Big men in the Barn, than fragbait anywhere else.                    

[Imperial_X]

I'd say the East would win.  The west just doesn't have that many skilled console gamers as I once foolishly thought.                    

[ShowTime]

Hahaha, like ya make the perfect thread for Smurf, lol

And Xen actually has a good point.  Playing online.  Countless times have I gotten fed up with the same sh*ttongs in Sip who came in and played SOF everyday and weren't seeming to get any better.  Playing online would've been the ideal thing, for you get to play a wider variety of people.  But SnS seems to have a SERIOUS problem with connecting to a net server, and by the time you actually find one and get accepted, your time is basically up.  

I'm not sure, but I had some problems in Java also.  But Rommel has some good points.                    

[Heady]

U haven't played all the console men.

IMPERIAL

i know buy my PS2 and i wrote down my gaming list
so i training, and u should be too.

btw i don't think he was talking about console men                    

[Imperial_X]

Its east vs west.  He didn't specify so I don't think I'd be too out of place when I say this.

My advice to you Handsome is TRAIN HARD.

When I'm not playing, you can be certain I'm thinking up some strategy or combo or something with my free time away from gaming.  

Currently learning

Guilty Gear XX
Bloody Roar 4
Soon to be Hyper Street Fighter 2X                    

[QDizzle]

I Coulda tell yuh dat SOUTH men is d bos                    

[Evangelion_01]

Whoo! Good thread. But I see some West men come down J.a.v.a one day, and they have some skill in other games, besides SOF-which I am NOT a fan of.

Currently training:
COD (Waiting for Above and Beyond)
UT2004
CAC-Generals and Zero Hour

Some props to Spartan for a decent UT2004 sweat the other day.                    

[Crixx_Creww]

I dont see de big deal with the online play? Ive played online in trinidad and in america
wasted many many many... oh lord many hours gaming in the states and honestly

i doh see de big deal, spartan, get over the m4 thing, i know men who havent touched m4 in ages, and iam one of them. Is your problem that yu hate gettting blowned up?
then learn to dodge, just deal.
Not like iam an sof advocate or anything in for reals yes.

East ,to much sof. west, need bigger gls to encourage a greater variety of gamers to come out there caves. so the skill can be recognised.

As for console gaming,  i eh know, i doh be in people house all de time to know how de sweating. Wish i had a console though ..                    

[Rampage]

lol@west men aint serious about gaming. hoss, is the west men that are the ultra gamers when you say east, you including hq? or is just sns ?if is just sns an thing, then west way better. doh get time up nah! it have some stars on the east though, i doh know about the new gatt fellas, but i talking a bit back in the day. perhaps it have skilled men, perhaps not. but west men serious about gaming, cyah say that kinda nonesense man. they mustbe sweating more than you eating                    

[Rommel]

that may be back in the day, but I ain't come to my conclusions on my own
the west have the talent but they are just content to sit in their hole that is HQ or Euro and play, but they don't really look out for competition besides tournaments and their skills stay idle and then declines as they start on another game (lineage  "sigh")

ramp all the ultra gamers just got old and left, or got a bit soft, except for Shizz and Chronos and a few others, I'm sorry to say
this is a different crowd

east takes sof to a high level but they play it just a tad too much, look at C&B,
he comes to HQ and joined SS to play other games than Sof, and he will still cut men ass in Sof

All it boils down to, is that the majority of ppl in east and west, with few exceptions, would rather be Big men in the Barn, than fragbait anywhere else.

men in the west not that chronic about sof, there are a lot of ppl in the west who don't play Sof smurf

Spartan, get over this M4 thing man geeze

I don't know a thing about the skills of the east and the west in console gamming other than the fact that I ain't foolish enough to challenge Imperial
therefore my post wasn't about console

the great Shizz and I came down to java on wednesday and sweated CoD and Sof, (don't think you meant us)though
we looking to go and sweat more CoD (lixx for allya) and maybe generals ( and YU GI OHHHHHHHHHH)


The main point about this post however is to say that thee is no real competition in pc gaming betwwen the two sides
the east have the best sof men
the west can lixx them in other games

but there is no one game where there is a lot of good men on both sides of the gaming fence to duke it out in a close battle

whenever east men come to gatt that is the story
we will fight hard in Sof, and sometimes win, (if Fault, Silverhawk, etc.... come as 1 team we in trouble though)
and then in every other game it is a one sided affair with west men comming on top( this exact thing happened recently when netsufers came to HQ)
THIS IS WHAT I CAN'T STAND, DAMM!T                    

[CRaZyAnGeL]

well hoss
u make plenty points dey specially d east sof ting
buh dey hav east men who does sweat other ting to..like me i does sweat wc3,cod,yugioh,starcraft,ut2k4,bf1942(kinda rusty by now lol) an whaeva else dey nut comin to my head rite now....
i workin on playin more cod than sof in j a v a an we go see how it goes                    

[Computerman]

Central gamers raise their head.....look at the East & West (see the south jumping in the background)......put their heads back down and continue to play.....
Just bring it!  :cool:                    

[Rommel]

yes Crazy I shall wait and see
a worthy battle is not for pride
but rather because there is an opponent standing before you
a honourable opponent who only wants to kill you
what can you do, but kill him first ?                    

[Rampage]

ramp all the ultra gamers just got old and left, or got a bit soft, except for Shizz and Chronos and a few others, I'm sorry to say  
this is a different crowd

cant say no to that. hell the people i use to sweat with back in the day, i doesnt even see them in the sweat roster. i go walk in a sweat and meet complete strangers oui.

but anyway, what you have to do is rally clans to play certain games, the games that euro an them play, and then that will increase the level of competition between the two. doh just complain man, do something, walk with a belt and rope, tie down people to play the games euro play, if they get up for food drop belts idmc!

if you walk in a sweat and men just playing sof2 and  you just complaining nothing go happen. is when you fire up another cool game and men start to baul "boy what game is that!" is when people go be nagging you to borrow the cds an thing. hell i remember when sof2 was first fired up in a sweat. it was kayode and i who first run the game ever in a sweat, men start to surround us an thing, this was way back eh. and look at what happen now? people real playing the game, you think we just start to scream and cry that is time for a new game? nah, we say the hell with that and fire up a new game by weself, who wanna join let them fix up, we aint go say no!                    

[ChRoNiC]

The answer is obvious
CENTRAL!!! of coarse!!                    

[~*Ashiee*~]

Rommel, u bring up serious points
but you also have to remember
most of the west men we play with are working/in school or not dedicated to gaming the way east men are
honestly west men have less time, it comes with the area we are from and our environment

est men always seem to make time and duck school, duck work, half of them don't work or go to school
all they do is play game.....
so if they can get other games they maybe better

but it is not that the West does not have their heart into the games, they jus lack the time and energy.
sad but true in most cases.
both west and east have their strengths/weaknesses i agree
and let's just try to keep the gaming alive