East side gammerz vs West side gammerz

[TriniXaeno]

Smurf, as always, you make a good point, but as rampage said before I spoke to you directly about this...and the issue that you still went ahead and precipitated / acted as a catalyst for, is bordering on inexcusable.

The solution was to find another East GL. Not find another location that has better machines than SnS and tout it as an "Anti-GATT" sweat spot for dissidents, all the while herding the "innocent" masses into their doors. Umi stands most guilty of this, as an employee of that business, I didn't expect any better from him but you, who are the equivalent of a "hero class unit" in GATT has played far too big a part in the troubles.

That is totally against the spirit of our association. This is not what was envisioned 5 years ago.

Disgruntled though you may have been, your grouse should have been with SnS management and not with GATT.

Your point that east was being neglected from all the hottest gaming action is also inaccurate. The east people do have GLs with upgraded machines. Etech PCs surpass the specs of both HQ and Euro. Last I checked, Arima was considered EAST.

Further to this, Johan (the owner of Etech) has since pushed ahead with opening another GL in the EAST, with powerful gaming machines as well.

Again, no excuse.

To add total insult to injury, Sip and Surf have been trying to find ways to accomdate gaming that is both cost effective and practical. Nicole and Abbi are under considerable pressure to get that done. GATT should be there helping them, not undermining them.

The scene with Yu-Gi-Oh and the TV were just not working out. Sweat figures were just not working out. The solution boils down to technology and money for upgrades. GATT has the technology, but none of us had the money. These things were and still are being actively pursued.

You should have patience with the once greatest gaming location on the island. At worst, you should make use of the other EAST gaming facilities provided. At best, you should help seek out and organise other gaming locations under the umbrella of the association.

Again, I must express some dissapointment. Luckily, it is not too late to make ammends.

We shall forge forward together. SnS shall return to her former glory. The Jamaican all star team will be beaten by the Trinidad All Star team in 2 weeks and Imperial will get a beating on the big screen of his choosing. lol

Let the nonsense stop here.

Suhuweat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                    

[Anonymous]

Big post by baego.
I dont agree with everything but still big post.
That's all i go say for now.                    

[TriniXaeno]

thanks man Hellfire.

A lil bit more on the TV,

IF you come Euro, you will see the working solution that SnS contracted us to build for them to run the TV/Console/Emu at their cafe.

It's been working out pretty alright.

See....these things have been in motion and are being realised. It just takes time and more importantly, money. I understand this more than ever now that I am running Euro+                    

[Imperial_X]

WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since the discontinued use of the TV in SNS I have resorted to running emulators on their machines.  I have even bought a controller so we wouldn't have two men on the same keyboard.  Although a psx converter would be nice, we're dealing with what we have here.  Ever since, I have encouraged those with emulators and roms to come out and get some form of sweat going.  

We have doing what we can within our financial means to ensure that the Street Fighter's, KoF Heads, Guilty Gears and Shodown Samurai's are still around.  Not much really, but it's what we are forced to work with at the moment.

As long as Ryu men still wander the earth, there will be Muay Thai Emperors to own them.  All your base....                    

[TriniXaeno]

hhahahahha

A powerful statement by a powerful gamer.

Well you will also be pleased to know that the SnS TV Console solution also included a dual PSX controller and a slew of emulators. Gaming Nirvana it is.

Having it running @ Euro has thought us some things though. While RCA is good for games, Svideo is necessary to be able to read the menu's. (Works great for Anime as well)

Suhuweat!!!!

and Xen, you're right about south gamers. we 0wn. muhahahha                    

[PapaSmurf]

While I disagree with alot of what u say, i will abide by your decision and you undeniable right to say it. And for the record I never was anti GATT, but i will not deny that i was and still am Anti SnS (For my grudge is stil with SnS Management)......If and when they change i will return to my home GL after i have reviewed the situation. Until then i will be content with my little set up in UWI. And i will also pass in HQ and Euro+ from time to time to see what real GL's are Supposed to be like and take in some real swet action. Because since GATT has taken over management of Euro i hear it has become a place of the gods rather than that of mere mortals....

But once again.....can u blame us for envying you?

I am sorry if my faith has wavered, I should have and will have in future, More faith in GATT and the efforts of our administrative authoritites. I can only hope that from hence forth we can move forth productively.

However, if the admins request that i leave this body, i will abide by that decision as well.                    

[Anonymous]

What i say is my opinion and to better understand.

What gatt ppl needed see was action happening on the east side with consideration to sweatage, which greatly denied because of the lack of capable computers to play the latest games we gatters wanted to play. Therefore making us gatters choose alternate places where the availabilty of such computers existed. I for one have chosen another place other than sns due to the degrading of its services at all levels from computers to manegement.
Isnt GATT (Gaming Association of Trinidad Tobago) so therfore we associate oursleves to gaming, but why must we segregate ourselves? How can we advance if we jus focus on gl's? Other places offer gaming services, yet when we east gamers focus our attention on an internet cafe within the vicinity of sns which has better computers, though for the time being not many. And we talk about it in the forums we are denied of saying the name. And this is the segregation im talking about. You act though any other gaming/internet cafes not associated with gatt should be disregarded. They might not be gatt oriented, but they satisfy our need, and that need is to game.
Why cant we take gaming to all levels of gameplay in trinidad and tobago whether it be associated with gatt or not and not have this fighting amongst ourselves. What really is the difference between a gatt gl and a normal gl, is it only a place for gatt ppl to congregate and to play games together? Remember not that we tryin to benifit gatt gamers, but every gamer all over Trinidad and Tobago, no matter it they are gatt affiliated or not.
What has the organisers or ppl in charge of gatt has done to do this? There has been growth in gaming and so forth especially with more cafes opening within recent years.
But why deny places and act as if doesnt exist? And try to promote only gatt gl's? What makes gatt feel as though that gatt gl's are better than the masses by denying them, not accepting, feeling as though thry go against gatt. Yes you can join gatt, but what makes gatt so special to join?
Baego since you seem to be most responsible over gatt, lemme ask you something. Yes there is etech in arima but the problem it is not centralized, the same going for hq and euro, St. Augustine is the perfect centralized location in the north where gatters can "congragate to play games, yet when sns stopped sweats, when they stopped use of tv by not fixing it, when things started to degrade, what did you do?. We as gatters have tried talking with management with these issues and yet they did nothing. That is why many of us have given up on sns.

The damage has been done already, sns will never go back to its glory days. Many have abandoned it. They didnt take care of our needs, we sought refuge in other places. You trying to deny us the satisfaction that these places have by not being able to talk about it on the forums with our fellow gamers. I thought gatt was a democratic place, where every gatter is able to express his wants, desires and opinions, without it being changed to your own gain. Gatt is right now at an all time low. Think about what has happened to make it so and reflect on it.                    

[Rampage]

hoss, sns can go back to its glory days, is the abandoning attitude within you! doh give up! lol@gatt on an all time low. boy pinkie when you join gatt boy? why not just call baego or talk to him upfront. that will definitely do alot more good, that way both of you can straighten it out clean one time. and you can argue etc. i offering councilling services folks. 10 bucks an hour.                    

[TriniXaeno]

lol @ counselling

Doh even study him boy rampage. Nonsense

SnS is FULL EVERY DAY. Very very FEW people have abandoned SnS. The place jam packed and we talking 50 machines...full to the brim.

Game running normal normal. I pass up there a few times well in this past month and de place blazin up.

Secondly, they did fix the tv and just yesterday, Abbi called and asked for the Console PC (which I told her we have grown too attached to @ euro, we will be sad to see it go)

Thirdly, Etech is in the east, yes....and they opened another GL closer to SnS. Arouca area.

Fourthly, there should be no such thing as a non GATT affiliated gaming location on this island. De association should embody and embrace all places of gaming. From arcades to fanciful internet cafe's. This is precisely what we set out to do.
That said, we avoid unscrupulous business men who try to rob or malign us and the membership.  Had one place that was chargin blood money for their facilities for example. Another had a propietor totin a gun and threatening members when he was drunk. We will NOT promote these places, regardless of their gaming facilities.

Just as I told smurf, the problem is not what you do...it's how you do it.

The correct course of action was to approach any new potential gaming location and bring it under the umbrella of gatt so it can benefit from the community. This was not done.

Definitely you shouldn't try to boast that you've found a "better place" that is NOT (strong emphasis on NOT) affiliated with GATT on GATT's very own forums. Foolish.

That goes against the very spirit of our association and the gamedom. People who think like this are in the MINORITY. The vast majority of us are cool and above board. Good people, good gamers.

I will gladly see any negative minds pushing that sort of counter productive nonsense put outside of the association. We don't want to be wasting time on bad apples.

Too much fun to be had.

There is much to running a GL and if you are too small minded to see and appreciate the bigger picture, that is your business.

I won't bother explaining it again. Enough words.

You fret, we'll sweat!!!!!!!                    

[Evangelion_01]

Now I already say what I have to say here and I serious aplogise for my bad tempered outburst and calling the West siders names. My bad there, and I a big enough man to know when I do @rseness. Serious apology to man I offend.

Now for the whole West side scene. I know jealousy and lack a patience  running like water up on this side in the East for the value of resources the West men have to use, but as Smurf said-you can't blame us because of the whole Sns scene. Now for one little insertion here Baego, not trying to chook nutting but go Sns those 'pack' days and ask a simple question of how many men there even KNOW what GATT is? See how many affirmations you get. Now, I know we've gotten the many theives and-excuse the words-'filth men' comming through Sns doors and causing their ructions. Hence a reason why some regulars to the palce have up and left, becuase of the lack of SECURITY. Nothing bad there Baego, but you can't have a good sweat when men hatta be watching their possesions every 5 seconds to make sure no man paws eh reaching for it.

Now I already state my problems with Sns, and frankly, it boils down to:
1 Lack of selection of games
2 GETTING a side to play something ELSE other than SOF all day long...
3 Lack of security
4 The smells. The smells. The smells. The smells. The AC doesn't do much when a man walk in from god alone knows where and raise an odor and not EVERY one likes the smell of microwave hotdogs and oily popcorn scent in the air. A little BETTER airfreshner and scent absorbers never send a business broken.

Now I hearing your side of things about the upgrades, things to come etc and I will sit by patient and wait to see how things turn out. Let's see how things go from here. That's my two and half scent...I mean, cents...                    

[snake_eater]

Now I already say what I have to say here and I serious aplogise for my bad tempered outburst and calling the West siders names. My bad there, and I a big enough man to know when I do @rseness. Serious apology to man I offend.

Now for the whole West side scene. I know jealousy and lack a patience  running like water up on this side in the East for the value of resources the West men have to use, but as Smurf said-you can't blame us because of the whole Sns scene. Now for one little insertion here Baego, not trying to chook nutting but go Sns those 'pack' days and ask a simple question of how many men there even KNOW what GATT is? See how many affirmations you get. Now, I know we've gotten the many theives and-excuse the words-'filth men' comming through Sns doors and causing their ructions. Hence a reason why some regulars to the palce have up and left, becuase of the lack of SECURITY. Nothing bad there Baego, but you can't have a good sweat when men hatta be watching their possesions every 5 seconds to make sure no man paws eh reaching for it.

Now I already state my problems with Sns, and frankly, it boils down to:
1 Lack of selection of games
2 GETTING a side to play something ELSE other than SOF all day long...
3 Lack of security
4 The smells. The smells. The smells. The smells. The AC doesn't do much when a man walk in from god alone knows where and raise an odor and not EVERY one likes the smell of microwave hotdogs and oily popcorn scent in the air. A little BETTER airfreshner and scent absorbers never send a business broken.

Now I hearing your side of things about the upgrades, things to come etc and I will sit by patient and wait to see how things turn out. Let's see how things go from here. That's my two and half scent...I mean, cents...

well said                    

[Xen_spartan-117]

i agree with him on this basis as well since i normally go to SnS on a 2-3 day per week basis....now when it comes down to it..its just sof
sns has been about sof 24/7..practically the only and i mean ONLY game that still actually has their place running since the store CRAWLS with noob sofers that  have played sof since it came out and STILL suck at it and love it.so until sof goes out of style sns will always make money because idiots who play the game dont care how it runs as long as they can play it

oh yeah snake eater...wait for the halo2 movie clip that will practically have 3-5 minutes out of 10 to show multiplayer experience...                    

[TriniXaeno]

1) Upgrade = more hd space and better vid cards to run more games
2) SOF is a boss game, played right. We have tons of games in the west and guess what...we still play SOF more than anything else.
3) SnS has security. Maybe not adequate but they do have security. HQ doesn't have any and things go missing all the same in the west.
4) I have been to there up to last week and it did not smell intolerable.

SnS has 50 machines and a large work space to manage. That's gonna be tough on the girls. It would not hurt to help rather than lambaste. For example, I had to put out a foul smelling guy once when it was drawn to my attention that he was stinkin up the place. A little affirmative action.

All that evil needs to prosper in this world, is that good men do nothing.

Again, none of these points justify the way in which the situation was handled. That is the REAL problem here. Not these issues, it's the jackarsity that I have a problem with. Like we always used to say back in the day....the only rule in GATT is no DA.

Let good sense prevail. Don't act a fool. This goes triply for mods and people of power in GATT.                    

[virusone]

Good post smurf....good post and it ture "in the beginning ther wer dew very few gamers all thanx changed now thanks ton Baego & Crew....still ah cool scene                    

[mangoseed_89]

even though i dont go sns at all anymore
mainly because of the pc's
and the regular foul smell
i still think of it is the pioneer of my gaming experience
if it wasnt for sns
i wouldnt no what the hell gatt was or even care about it
i would not have found hq and be sweating there almost everyday

thank you sns
but i still sweating hq..
the crowds better.                    

[TriniXaeno]

ent,

SnS was the poster child for gaming on the island. So it shall be again (stop stealin my lines Rommel!)

To attract a whole new generation of gamers to the GATTdom.                    

[richjob]

You know, SnS is only obliged to do that what brings them money without grief.

Frankly, it's all in how you talk to the management.  I've never had a problem in any dealings with Nicole or Abigail.

Heh.                    

[PapaSmurf]

I wonder if they stil have the picture with the first GATT gamers in SnS.....

Me, Touya, Talon, Satiyo, Opium and Keyvo.                    

[Xen_spartan-117]

ahhh the good ol days...i remember when i first heard of gatt....
baego pwned me in q3 25/4 ouch i got pwned:(                    

[ChickenNBeer]

hmmmmmmmmm i not taking sides in this eh but somethin was brought to my attention
sns is no longer full
when i used to be there it used to be jam packed with ppl
now wheneve ru go, u sure to get a pc
plus all my peeps who used to be there and let me call some names....................
killjoy
koiler
freeze
umi
smurf
gruff
cow
doctor x
warlock
pinkie
chronox
rb
bob
eva 01
death
arch angel
vader
deaphias
superman's bodyguard
metabee
mandy
osiris
hinata
and more nolonger go there
some work in other gls and al kinda ting
it will be tough for sns to reachback to that sort of status
i dont mean too sound negative but too much damage has been done for it to return to that lvl