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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2003, 08:06:42 AM »
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Maison Nougant Sniper own j00 :P

I love the rifle and the machine guns. But the grenade-bleah :(

MOISIN NAGANT


Jeez u guys cant spell

its Mosin Nagant


Well SORRY nuh :P My bad spelling-my bad man :) But seriously, is the Russian grenade a frag grenade of sorts? I can't seem to find any online research/history on it...                    

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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2003, 12:34:45 PM »


This is the F-1 Fugasnaya  ("high explosive") fragmentation grenade made and used by the Russians during WWII.

It has the early Koveshnikov fuze, made of brass and steel. This fuze design was replaced by the UZRG type sometime around 1942.

The body style is slightly different that the modern F1 types, being more angular and exhibiting small notches in the neck and base. When these changes occurred is not clear and could possibly be just variations in manufacturing set-ups. Color varies from a very dark green-brown to medium olive.



Ruchnaya Granata Degtyareva
("Hand Grenade of the Degtyarev design")
Model 1933 used during WWII and after, thru Vietnam.

Sheet metal construction, with a removable outer fragmentation sleeve. Time delay fuze with a cocked striker, activated when thrown, utilizing a unique mechanical system.
A most complex grenade design.                    


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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2003, 12:38:36 PM »
looks at bob's post
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if anyone tinks that smokin a joint does make yuh feel high
try pullin one a dem grenades nah                    

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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2003, 01:15:17 PM »
ahh bob is a boss.but it IS MOISIN NAGANT!!!!                    

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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2003, 03:08:19 PM »
The Rifle Mosin or it's western name, the Mosin Nagant rifle owes it's beginnings to the circumstance of modern warfare. The advent of the repeating rifle led the Russian Imperial government to start a search for a replacement for their antiquated Berdans. A commission was established to find a design that would compete with the Mauser, Lebel, Lee-Metford,   Mannlicher, Schmidt-Rubin and the  Krag-Jorgensen. They could have never imagined that the result of their efforts would see service in battle for the next 80 years while the other rifles became museum pieces.  A  Russian army Captain, Sergei Ivanovich Mosin would eventually produce the winner of the competition for a new design.

    Mosin's rifle wasn't an overnight success. He began work on the design in 1883. His primary focus was on the development of a magazine fed infantry rifle. He submitted several designs for internal fed magazine rifles to the commission in 1884 and 1885. His initial designs were in 10.6 mm.  Between 1887 and 1889, working with the smaller caliber then coming into general use among European armies, Mosin developed a 5-shot, straight-line magazine prototype in 7.62 mm; employing the antediluvian Russian measurements of the era it was designated 3-line caliber. The liniya, or line is equivalent to 0. 10 in or 2.54 mm; therefore, 3 linii equals 7.62 mm or .30 in.(Lapin, "The Mosin Nagant Rifle")

All of his efforts were rejected until October 1889. The Belgian weapons designer Leon Nagant submitted his 3.5 line (8.89 mm) rifle and 500 rounds of ammunition for testing by the Russian government. Both designers' weapons were tested from 1890 through 1891 by units of the Russian Army. Initially, the home team headed by Mosin lost as the army favored Nagant's design. However, Russia being Russia, the votes were overturned in favor of Mosin. The reason behind this move was most likely political. Typical of Russian ingenuity and political deftness, both designs were incorporated into a rifle that featured the Mosin model with the Nagant designed feed system. This rifle was designated the Pekhotniya vintovka obr. 1891g. or Three-Line Rifle of the year 1891.                    


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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2003, 03:11:38 PM »
it is MOISIN but good to see u know ur stuff                    

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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2003, 03:17:07 PM »
ah,after sum hefty net research i was able to determine that there is a mosin nagant and a moisin nagant.

Mosin-Nagant 1891 Finnish rifle, made by VKT dated 1942, SA marked, cal. 7.62x54R mm

the others were moisin nagant.bit strange if u ask me                    

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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2003, 11:19:03 PM »
Right......now that is settled......I can finally exhale.                    
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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2003, 12:19:00 AM »
ok in snipin i love de springfield
so american to craw
when it come to machine gunnin de ppsh owns all bases so russian all the way for that                    

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