Gopio awards: A plea for equality or an attempt to segregate

[silk]

With an acronym that contains G for "Global" and a reference to one specific racial group, GOPIO could NEVER be interested in any form of UNITY.  If that ent d case, they on division. FULL STOP !!!!!  

Maybe somebody should put a poll,  "Do you see the TC as a symbol of Afro-Christianity ?"

I am an Christian, and i NEVER once saw the cross in that light.  The cross could dissappear tomorrow for all i care. But that doh mean my eyes closed to GOPIO.                    

[Kayode]

Not liking GOPIO is not a good enough reason to support keeping the Cross.
Not liking PNM or Afro-Christians is not a good enough reason to support the removal of the Cross.


The only full stop in this whole debate is the undeniable fact that the Cross is not a proper representation of Trinbagonian excellence.

I'm probably the only person in this thread approaching the issue primarily from that viewpoint. Everyone else blinded by either politics, GOPIO, or ignorance of the country's history.

That being the case, is best it be left alone indeed.  

 
Why...because whichever party does it will get less votes next election?

That is a why the right thing shouldn't be done?

At least, until we can get a secular government, elected by a secular majority.

We will never have a secular majority in this country. If African-Americans were told that they'd get full Civil Rights when an African-American majority supported the move, they would be in an even worse mess than they are today.


This is an issue of ideals, not statistics. The right thing to do is clear as day, and any government, "Hindu" or "Christian", that doesn't do it, is abrogating its responsibility to promote fairness and equality.


If you said "That being the case, it's going to be left alone unfortunately," I might have agreed with you. But saying that it's "best" it be left alone...it's almost as if you support don't the ideal because of the reality.                    

[Kayode]

But that doh mean my eyes closed to GOPIO.

Yuh eyes not closed to GOPIO, but they closed to the issue of the Cross.

And any one who rejects changing the award because they against GOPIO just playing straight into GOPIO's hands. Simple as that.

Think about it.                    

[TriniXaeno]

well my words may have betrayed my intention because I am saying it precisely because of the reality and nothing more.

For the 50% of me that is an idealist (supporting a change of the cross because it is right) there is another 50% that is a realist (it quite likely won't be changed because of the very good issues raised above)

A secular majority will remove some of the hurdles and like you said, that is also hardly unlikely in our lifetime.                    

[PapaSmurf]

Not liking GOPIO is not a good enough reason to support keeping the Cross.  
Not liking PNM or Afro-Christians is not a good enough reason to support the removal of the Cross.  

The only full stop in this whole debate is the undeniable fact that the Cross is not a proper representation of Trinbagonian excellence.  

My sentiments exactly. The real problem and the real issue.
Maybe everyone would be appeased if we had a the Trinidad Rainbow as a tribute to our "Rainbow" population of races.

LOL, but then certain residents of San Francisco, USA, would be very disturbed to see trini's giving the symbol of their liberation and exodus from the closet in such a cavalier manner.                    

[Kayode]

Man, just call it the Order and make it a circle with the Crest inside, like a oversized shilling.                    

[Rommel]

ok fine the country was never declared christian but think about it
who was in charge

ok right, doesn't really matter

but still lol


anyway all I will say is that in the end this topic is not as important as others and does not really deserve all this attention

why?

because we ( those typing the words in this thread) are not doing a thing and besides there are other more important things that sould be our concern (unless of course you are getting off your "couch")

if the country wants it to change it will, because politicians want to do the popular thing (in theory)

if not then it doesn't really matter what intellcetuals and a few pissed off people who just wanna complain about something say, will it

tell me how many people even know who were the recipiants of said award
(besides you kayode)


and if you really must then I think we should rename this country to rainbowdad or gopiodad (had to say it lol, just joking oh gawd)

anyway it should be changed

the name should have something real to do with our people

not something that is neutral or for the sake of change

otherwise what is the point to try to include everybody if no one really cares about the award

so what should it be called,

if you think it should be changed, present what it should be

and not to me to the country

if it should be, then full speed go

otherwise this debate is more or less over as there isn't anything left to say is there
and to what point, who is declared the winner.........


btw who here really wants a secular government

just curious?
(so we could start another thread and argue some more )