RE: {GATT-Tech} Mobile Monster #2: Dell 9100 (3358 3DMark200

[!Synth]

Depends on what I comparing it too :-) Course anything weak when your
current personal record is 54xx

The system is upper end definitely, however scores are bit weak for an xt
on that kinda sys.


Are you using latest via hyperion 4-in-1? (very important use a new 4-in-1
pack since it contains updated agp driver)

Try a real driver set..OMEGA Drivers, DNA or NGO.

My guess memory timings are weak as well.



At 12:39 PM 6/25/2004, you wrote:
>Thank you good sir.
>
>Now do you call that a "weak system" synth?
>
>
>
>
>----------
>From: Shaun Kong Ting [mailto:shaunkt@tstt.net.tt]
>Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:24 PM
>To: tech@gatt.co.tt
>Subject: Re: {GATT-Tech} Mobile Monster #2: Dell 9100 (3358 3DMark2003)
>
>Bellamy, Nigel wrote:
>This system is in the 3500 ish category and that is comparable to a strong
>desktop system.
>
>Not a Weak one.
>
>Flippant, buss out some scores there for synth on your 9600xt and system
>specs.
>
>
>----------
>well i must say the last few releases by ati actually made my scores worse
>but 4.6 seems to have them back up again: recommended download.
>
>3D Mark 2003
>4.6 drivers - 3693
>without overdrive enabled .
>
>specs:
>2600XP Barton
>768Mb DDR2700
>A7v8X-X (yeah thats right, its kt-400, imagine a nforce 2) onboard sound
>(yuck i know)
>Sapphire ATI 9600XT 128 (500Mhz core clock)
>
>nothing is overclocked
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[!Synth]

I will re-run 3dmark and take screenies soon.

Course thats on my R9500np (R9700 for everyone besides baego!)...I am
definitely limited by vc. Though I could still volt mod it.

I get beat by man with R9800pro though....just need to make ~100more
marks...to meet him grrrr when i last battled him.

Course with vmod and cooling boost...muhahahaa!


Oh right what specs?
Hmm was waiting a bit till I could get my AMD baby up and tweaked...then
beat that score and submit details.
The score was on an intel box. And of course o/ced and tweaked out.



At 10:44 AM 7/12/2004, you wrote:
>What specs you had to make dat score???
>
>
>----------
>From: !Synth [mailto:the_synthetic_one@gmx.net]
>Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 7:32 PM
>To: tech@gatt.co.tt
>Subject: RE: {GATT-Tech} Mobile Monster #2: Dell 9100 (3358 3DMark2003)
>
>Depends on what I comparing it too :-) Course anything weak when your
>current personal record is 54xx
>
>The system is upper end definitely, however scores are bit weak for an xt
>on that kinda sys.
>
>
>Are you using latest via hyperion 4-in-1? (very important use a new 4-in-1
>pack since it contains updated agp driver)
>
>Try a real driver set..OMEGA Drivers, DNA or NGO.
>
>My guess memory timings are weak as well.
>
>
>
>At 12:39 PM 6/25/2004, you wrote:
>
>Thank you good sir.
>
>Now do you call that a "weak system" synth?
>
>
>
>
>----------
>From: Shaun Kong Ting [mailto:shaunkt@tstt.net.tt]
>Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:24 PM
>To: tech@gatt.co.tt
>Subject: Re: {GATT-Tech} Mobile Monster #2: Dell 9100 (3358 3DMark2003)
>
>Bellamy, Nigel wrote:
>This system is in the 3500 ish category and that is comparable to a strong
>desktop system.
>
>Not a Weak one.
>
>Flippant, buss out some scores there for synth on your 9600xt and system
>specs.
>
>
>----------
>well i must say the last few releases by ati actually made my scores worse
>but 4.6 seems to have them back up again: recommended download.
>
>3D Mark 2003
>4.6 drivers - 3693
>without overdrive enabled .
>
>specs:
>2600XP Barton
>768Mb DDR2700
>A7v8X-X (yeah thats right, its kt-400, imagine a nforce 2) onboard sound
>(yuck i know)
>Sapphire ATI 9600XT 128 (500Mhz core clock)
>
>nothing is overclocked
>
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[!Synth]

Where have all the tweakers gone..sniff.

Going to nf2/dual  won't make THAT big a difference. Something else isn't
quite right.

Memory timings IS THE THING when it comes to AMD. That goes for ANY
generation. Actually it applies to any platform...just a bit less
significant on INTEL side.

Hell my KT133a was runnin max aggressive....I max aggressive on Pentium1
systems...just about any system it DOES make a difference...especially when
benching.



If only I had resources to have my own techsite...much of those sites on
net do post crap...or at best partial useful/true.


You want cool..lower vcore..or even underclock...or up air cooling level!





At 01:30 PM 7/12/2004, you wrote:
>Bellamy, Nigel wrote:
>>What specs you had to make dat score???
>>
>>
>>----------
>yeah i wanna see that too! i havent see a system locally yet that could
>make 5400! (although i am sure there are)
>bring specs!
>
>baego, do you know badboyB's 3d mark scores?
>
>and to answer synth question, yes the via drivers recent.
>a friend with a comparable system (same cpu and gfx) but with nforce 2 and
>branded (buffered RAM) tells me he could make over 4000 easy.
>so yeah, its probably the memory controller. i have no plans currently to
>make the memory timings more aggresive though, as from articles i've read,
>on this chipset it wont improve things much.
>1 yr from now i may try it to squeeze every last bit out of the system,
>and maybe some serious o/c w/watercooling too. but for now i need a stable
>system that runs as cool as possible.





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[!Synth]

badboy...is he the one with the jet engine hsf and green box?

At 01:30 PM 7/12/2004, you wrote:
>Bellamy, Nigel wrote:
>>What specs you had to make dat score???
>>
>>
>>----------
>yeah i wanna see that too! i havent see a system locally yet that could
>make 5400! (although i am sure there are)
>bring specs!
>
>baego, do you know badboyB's 3d mark scores?
>
>and to answer synth question, yes the via drivers recent.
>a friend with a comparable system (same cpu and gfx) but with nforce 2 and
>branded (buffered RAM) tells me he could make over 4000 easy.
>so yeah, its probably the memory controller. i have no plans currently to
>make the memory timings more aggresive though, as from articles i've read,
>on this chipset it wont improve things much.
>1 yr from now i may try it to squeeze every last bit out of the system,
>and maybe some serious o/c w/watercooling too. but for now i need a stable
>system that runs as cool as possible.





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[Flippant]

!Synth wrote:

> Where have all the tweakers gone..sniff.
>
> Going to nf2/dual  won't make THAT big a difference. Something else
> isn't quite right.
>
> Memory timings IS THE THING when it comes to AMD. That goes for ANY
> generation. Actually it applies to any platform...just a bit less
> significant on INTEL side.

more aggressive timing and 3d mark crashed to to corrupt texture

leave my system alone synth, it running fine.

and the system is hella tweaked, just not overclocked. sure its all
software/os wimpy tweaks, but i've got plenty of them!
the amount of hardware i have fried due to tweaking + bad circulation +
no AC.....(pours whiskey on ground for all the deceased)