Author Topic: Trinidad inter school gaming league ? (Read 5688 times)

TrinireturnofGamez · « **on:** May 08, 2005, 11:16:04 PM »

There are inter school chess tournaments, scrabble tournaments , football and cricket tournaments ,why not gaming tournaments? I would consider many of the games we regurlarly play in the internet cafe's 'constructive' as Warcraft III builds critical decision making skills , eg.when to attack , whether to fight over a gold mine or go straight for the main base , and resource managment etc. Quake and unreal build split second reflexes and games like battlefield , Wolfenstein, raven shield and counterstrike build leadership skills and teamwork......
Can't gatt get funding from some organisation , and organise a series of annual inter school gaming tournaments ? It would generate interest in gaming , whereby increasing attendance at arcades/internet cafe's , and increasing profits ... If the organisation providing funding be a game producer / hardwer manufacturer , it will also experience boosted sales .
thoughts anyone?

Carigamers · « **on:** May 08, 2005, 11:16:04 PM »

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2005, 07:36:54 AM »

It is a brilliant idea.

I'll pitch it to the TT2005 and see if we can include it for 2005. If not, 2006.

Typically, the big events would be during vacation and it would be difficult to get school participation then.

If we have it during the school term, parents would frown on their kids playing video games when they should be beating books. An argument we would surely lose.

A bit of a challenge, but if enough minds are applied to the problem, we could work around it.

again, great idea!

JoKeRs · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2005, 02:17:26 PM »

NVidia gives freebies to LAN parties that have 50 or more people so we shoukd take advantage of this
as far as financial support...............one idea is to attempt pitching it to groups that advertise to teenagers and younger

like Chubby, Snack Companies, RBTT Future Fortune etc...............

but great idea

to expand on it i would just get the schools to form the gaming teams during the school term and give em IDs that GATT would produce so there wouldnt be easily tampered with

stipulations for the teams would be good grades 1, and parental support 2

BountyHunter#1 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 14, 2005, 06:22:09 PM »

great idea but the problem would be parents..
my mother dont let me play games at home do u think she would let me play it in school?

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #4 on:** May 15, 2005, 07:55:12 AM »

yuh hit the nail on the head.

the biggest problem would be parents. Gaming is still frowned upon. it will be sometime before the masses accept it as a viable past time. As is, they class it under "waste of time"

uphill battle for us to change that and prove that not only delinquents drown themselves in blowing up pixels.

a battle we MUST win!!

suhuweat!!

Carigamers · « **Reply #4 on:** May 15, 2005, 07:55:12 AM »

Computerman · « **Reply #5 on:** May 15, 2005, 07:15:25 PM »

Quote from: [X]-Baego on May 09, 2005, 07:36:54 AM

If we have it during the school term, parents would frown on their kids playing video games when they should be beating books. An argument we would surely lose.

Quote from: Eliminator89 on May 14, 2005, 06:22:09 PM

great idea but the problem would be parents..
my mother dont let me play games at home do u think she would let me play it in school?

Quote from: [X]-Baego on May 15, 2005, 07:55:12 AM

yuh hit the nail on the head.

the biggest problem would be parents. Gaming is still frowned upon. it will be sometime before the masses accept it as a viable past time. As is, they class it under "waste of time"

Education is definately the key....education of the parents first of course. I always try to get them involved by drawing refernces from games that they may currently play (All Fours, Poker, Snooker, Pool etc.). As with anything else if you can prove tangible benefits they generally come around.

orginalvexman · « **Reply #6 on:** May 16, 2005, 04:32:55 PM »

bah

rember some people old scholl and dont wanna change for nothing u could give them all the facts in the world and they will still say no

Mugsy · « **Reply #7 on:** May 16, 2005, 07:29:08 PM »

Actually the biggest problem would be the schools themselves. Most avid gamers come from the so-called prestige schools and i cant see the principals of those schools actually pitchin for a tournament like that. I kno fuh sure Hillview College wouldn't be attending in any formal capacity.

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #8 on:** May 16, 2005, 10:25:54 PM »

yeah, but then that beckon's the question.

does it need to be an "official" school sanctioned event?

If we can find a way to do it online, where the students don't need to leave their general district/gl/home to compete.

BountyHunter#1 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2005, 06:44:59 AM »

In all Schools there is at least one Game 'FREEKY' teacher..
there are 3 in my school.
there are distructive games as well as constructive games.
i was once invited to a chess tournament and the main heading on the poaster was ""chess develops critical thinking skilllllllllllllls""

Just thinking that the only way we may be able to get this into schools is by some how getting recognised byyyyyyyyyy them chess pple....
because ""War3 TFT develops critical thinking skilllllllllllllls more than chess""
ent it?

and by the way Quote Reply #8 on: May 16, 2005, 10:25:54 PM
that will never work..
parents wont let up play games in school but do you think that they will let us go in a internet cafe late after school??? hell no they won't. think about that..

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2005, 09:41:29 AM »

it doesn't have to be at a gl late after school.

could be on a weekend, on a lunch time, or from home on a evening.

with enough grey matter, we could find a way!

BountyHunter#1 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2005, 03:18:18 PM »

From home wont work...
Lunch aint enough time
Maby weekend

justinkoo · « **Reply #12 on:** May 17, 2005, 07:54:39 PM »

Am i dont see a problem at cic. Plenty gamers and anyway we play networked unreal and stuff in the lab

wesleigh · « **Reply #13 on:** May 18, 2005, 03:11:08 PM »

where uwi go fit in to dis...and all d oder tertiary education places...is older ppl are d ones who hav d time and money for games u kno

TrinireturnofGamez · « **Reply #14 on:** May 18, 2005, 06:54:56 PM »

so the major problems we have to overcome :
1. Support from the non gaming community ie. parents, principals
2. time .....
3.funding
4. Locations for sweatage .
My solutions :
1. Prepare presentations proving that most of the gamers have above average school performance, have somebody talk about how much they learned from games etc.

2. Long weekends like corpus christi , divil and easter come frequently enough to host quarter finals , semi finals etc.

3. Alot of those big hardware companies and PC retailers fund LAN tournaments like nothing, getting a few together to fund this shouldn't be a problem .

4. This is where green dot comes in , get at least one major cafe in each town hooked up to the WAN , rent them out for 3-4 periods of a few days , make sure each has machines up to spec , maybe get a few machines donated from big hardware manufactorers , allow BYOC for people with up to spec hardware , people who have the Green dot service stay at home and compete in the tournament .

and we have sweatage ! I would recommend the following games for the tournament .
Strategy/team

Warcraft III : TFT
Warhammer

FPS/team

Call of Duty
Raven shield
Wolfenstein : enemy territory .
Of course all of our games would have to look fairly constructive and skill intensive , and we can't have exotically violent games like unreal or quake that involve reflexes only or the whole point of 'building teamplay and critical thinking skills' goes to waste .

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #15 on:** May 18, 2005, 11:14:21 PM »

fine points

Wesleigh also raised a powerful issue.

the people with the wherewithall to properly participate in such a venture are at the tertiary level. They already have their license, access to cars, bigger budget for gaming rigs and more flexibility with time.

At the tertiary level, such extra curricula activities are almost encouraged to ensure balance.

So we can attack this from two angles. A Junior league, for Secondary level and a Senior league, for Tertiary type institutions.

The latter having the least amongst of issues to get off the ground.

I would marry the Seniors with some company wide action. Finding the gamers in BG going up against TTIT or Petrotrin Allstars.

Definitely two things worth progressin!

brilliant thread this..

Mugsy · « **Reply #16 on:** June 01, 2005, 07:01:12 PM »

I agree with baego despite allthe setbacks this a brilliant topic
another question o be raised would be what will happen to students just out of secondary education nut not in tertiary education. e.g students who take a year of after school before goin to uwi.

pleb · « **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2005, 10:50:07 PM »

I KNOW!!!!!!
WHAT ABOUT GAMERS SUMMER CAMP?

WHERE GAMERS GO TO LEARN CRUCIAL GAMING SKILLS!!!!

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #18 on:** June 26, 2005, 08:01:11 PM »

lol
it will be a hard sell to parents.

they love the concept of junior learning skills that could pay their medical bills in the future.

learning l337 micro in starcraft isn't going to impress them nor increase your chances of gainful employment in the not too distant future. lol

pleb · « **Reply #19 on:** June 26, 2005, 09:30:13 PM »

i have it now!!!
we tell the parents its an IT summer camp where they learn stuff about the pc from say 10am to 4pm every day
BUT!!!!!!!!!
from 10am to say 12pm actually teach stuff then from there till pick up play games!!!!

Carigamers · « **Reply #19 on:** June 26, 2005, 09:30:13 PM »

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