Does age matter in handheld gaming?

[nytemare]

in the early days of the DS announcements, the DS was touted to be the 'third pillar' to stand alongside the GCN and the GBASP. Now I wonder, if they will stick to this? If they do, what will the new gameboy look like? Will it come out alongside the Revolution as the GBA did next year? Will it be better than the DS or less than the DS?  I don't think that we will see another  'gameboy' for another three to four years. saddle up with the DS cause handhelp gaming is going to be on pause. another thing, The PSP is supposed to be the 'gameboy' killer. but all the gaming experts already say that Nintendo will remain the handheld champion for another era. Suddenly sony has changed its approach as to say that the PSP is the handheld for adults. the 'walkman of the new era'. when it comes to handheld gaming, age means nothing. i mean for crying out loud, my mom has a gameboy advance sp and i don't even own one. does age really matter when it comes to handheld gaming?                    

[ShinSagat]

yeah ...actually hell yeah look at sony success in the walk man arena I mean i know ipod big but sony still have multimedia lock down with some of their products. GAMEBOY cannot be beaten  but DS maybe beaten if psp does what they should and attract the older audience .. but lehwe be real I eh playin dat much for that i rather buy a game                    

[Kayode]

I doubt PSP could ever be a Gameboy killer.

It's just been announced that it will be selling for $350US in Japan.

Even if you take into account the historically higher Japanese prices for these things, yuh still looking at a $300 or $250 US PSP.

DS going for $150.


Guess who wins.                    

[nytemare]

ok, lets look at the ipod for a minute. the ipod is expensive, it really is, especially when it was just released at $400.00, the ipod still sole units because of one thing. it was an mp3 player and it did it's job great! It's no secret that i dislike Sony for their cheap coniving ways. Just like i hate Nike. The most expensive sneakers, but the cheapest quality. Sony is pushing this PSP and it does a million things but does it do them well. Hmmm... a motor is just another part to burn out, a motor is just another component to drain on battery life. The screen, nice resolution, but just big enough to eat on the battery life. the controls, what about media conflicts, who wants to bet that you can only play atracs on this thing? what about saving your game, hmmm.... i can only use my SONY memory stick. which is expensive. the PSP is aesthetically superior to the DS, the DS is a better built machine, and more practical in my veiw.

this has been the nytemare report                    

[cereal_killer]

here's another point

look at the release date of the playstation 2, it was the first next generatino console to be released,
because of that it holds the larger part of the console market. although more powerful console came out
the ps 2 still came out on top because it came out early.

If the ds is released first people who are waittin for the next generation handhelds would buy the ds because the can't wait
to buy it.                    

[TrinireturnofGamez]

Price is not the only factor involved, the PSP is supposed to play DVDs too, it would be able to play music etc.
   The ultimate portable device would be : a cell phone from nintendo that had alot of Solid  state storage for use as a PDA/walkman , play games with graphics on par with the Xbox, have long battery life etc.                    

[nytemare]

how in the world would a psp play a dvd? a dvd is physically bigger than the PSP itself. it can play movies, i know it plays mpeg 1, as for dvd quality movies. hardly likely, but with video compression these days, who knows                    

[nytemare]

any disc format will drain on battery life, this machine is a little beyond practicality at this point. the screen is so huge and the disc based media is just not necessary. like i said, i want to play supermario on a trip, but not GTA or GT4. come on. The psp is actually aimed to be a Playstation II portable. not a playstation portable. the graphical power is on par with the home console. wow, yes, but is it really nescessary. this unit looks like one fall will destroy it. Its a little shaky as of what I have seen so far.                    

[Kayode]

The PSP is nowhere close to being on par with the PS2. It's slightly more powerful than the PS1.

GT4 is a great game for a trip. Racing games are always good portable games. I haven't heard anything about GTA on the PSP.

The UMD (not DVD) disc format has its downfalls, but it will be cheaper to produce and that should hopefully translate into cheaper games.                    

[nytemare]

ALL reports that i have read thus far has claimed that the PSP, while not exactly the same, is on par with the PS II (Game informer/ EGM/ IGN). and from looking at that UMD, it will cost more to produce than a flat out dvd because of the built on spindle/case thingy. Although the UMD is smaller and is less space to print, it also has that shell thing over it, which is more plastic.                    

[Crixx_Creww]

sony propreitary media will never be cheap

they are playing a very nasty game.
They will snag customs with the features , then dog them into buying their jacked up propreitary media.

The DS has the nintendo name to back it, that alone will give it a very good push in the arena. Who wouldnt by the gameboy name over a new hand held.
Gameboy killa my eye.

WE remember the last competition to gameboy dont we.
yes we do.

making games for nintendo now arent they
yes they are.                    

[wesleigh]

age prob matters depending on the handheld ur playin....who here could remember dem Tiger LCD games...remember streetfighter...remember d millions of racing car versions it had...remember TMNT in a long green handheld...                    

[nytemare]

naw, when we say handheld we refer to real handheld, like; gamegear, nomad, gameboy etc. not those Tiger brand things                    

[ShinSagat]

but d funny ting is... when i was younger I get a game boy and my older sister get a game gear and really and trully is like i owned both but when u wanted fun and adventure and generally crap u should be playin cuz u in traffic etc. check game boy. If u too pathetic and want to play any and everything check out all options

MY VOTE nintendo all d way they have let me down once and until melee 2 come out it will remain at once                    

[nytemare]

actually the UMD's were picked over carts because of the cheap storage. while the UMD's maybe more expensive than DVD's they will still be cheaper than a cart that holds a gig and change. solidstate memory is very expensive because of board prinitng and all of that. looking at this

Carts = minimal loading time

Discs = alot loading time

Carts = high cost to low data ratio

Discs = low costs to high data ratio.

the name of the game (lol no pun intended) is money. remember it may be about games, but its still a business                    

[Imperial_X]

here's another point

look at the release date of the playstation 2, it was the first next generatino console to be released,
because of that it holds the larger part of the console market. although more powerful console came out
the ps 2 still came out on top because it came out early.

If the ds is released first people who are waittin for the next generation handhelds would buy the ds because the can't wait
to buy it.

That's doubtful.  Sony had a wide consumer base with the ps1.  That together with the fact you stated earned them more sales.                    

[nytemare]

Listen, I'm Nintendo's biggest fan. they make quality products and you can stand by them, the long and short is, the playstation brand was more fun. Look at it this way, when the  sony boys were playing TEKKEN, i had to play Fighter's destiny, hence Sony's command on the console market. Ninendo brought themselves a long way with the cube, but yet to define themselves, the little stunt they tried to pull with resident evil was just sad, sure, you make a couple masterpieces of digital entertainment (resident evil 1 remake/ and 0 remake) but then they lazily port 2,3, and veronica to the system. those titles sold less than 500,000 copies. simply disgusting numbers for such titles. I blame nintendo, not capcom. because Nintendo struck the deal.                    

[nytemare]

i just took a good look at the PSP and I have to admit, it is one sleek looking handheld if there ever was one. The UMD goes into a drawer-like slot. Its just like the sony MiniDisc players, its exactly like that. it has a USb slot on the top and center of the system, the memory stick goes in the left side and has another slot on the right bottom side. its a beautiful piece of hardware, i will admit, well the ps2 did look most appealing than the cube and xbox anyways. but ds will whoop ass                    

[rb2k2]

look at the release date of the playstation 2, it was the first next generatino console to be released

The dreamcast was the first next generation console. If they were smart and had put in a dvd rom drive  instead of a gd rom drive. The dreamcast would still be alive today. Did anyone happen to see the list of games that were to be exclusive to the dreamcast ? A lot of big names were on that list.Castlevania Ressurection , Soul Calibur 2 , Max Payne etc. To bad they shafted the system.                    

[nytemare]

Look retrospectively, the dvd was not that widespread or economically practical in 1999. hence it was not used in the DC. Yamaha developed the GD software (wich was revolutionary at the time) but didn't put enough emphasis on the security factor. soon their tools and secret leaked to the net and everyone knew the secret to burning DC games.The DC was a spectacular machine at the everyone in the industry still wonderes why it failed. I personally think it was the piracy that killed it, it got so bad that later on you didn't even need a boot disc, the software was burned right on to the pirated game. but many analysts suspects it was the marketing campaign that did sega in. Even at that time when the dreamcast was out, I don't think that Sony knew where they were going as far as media. the first few games on the ps2 were CD's, look at them, the bottom is blue. the time frame doesn't matter either, in terms of development schedule, while sony has said the BD (blue ray disc) will be used for the ps3 they haven't even finished developing the main GPU yet. and this console is to be released in early 2006, I don't even think Microsoft knows where it wants to go with the Xenon (Xbox2), while xbox caught alot of steam, it was only in North America, Japan all but blatantly despises the xbox. As for nintendo, the rumor is, they are actually developing two systems. the systems will go out for tests then the most popular one will actually be released. I have faith in the big N, and microsoft is going to attack hard this time. but it seems that Sony may just do it again. we will see. Nintendo is determined to get their system out the gate first, Sony doesn't care cause they know they are established for the last 11 years as number one, and Microsoft thinks that they are actually a force to be reckoned with (i myself, beg to differ) so they will come out after. I don't think release time will have much to do with the players choice this time. BUT then again, looking back 6 months ago, when xbox caught steam alot of people, including myself jumped ship and hopped on the xbox bandwagon (between myself and and my cousin's house, we had 3 xboxes, 2 ps2's 1 cube, and 79 xbox games). the point is; look at how easy our affiliation changed. so who really knows what determines a system's popularity?
i don't think anyone.
is it the name
is it the software
is it the availability

what is it really?