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« on: July 10, 2004, 12:42:40 PM »
do the U.S accept responsibility for their actions?

news being released is that the intelligence fed to the president was false

their evidence gathered which supported the invasion in Iraq was under false pretenses

after 9/11 the intelligence made a link between Saddam and terrorism and bin Laden

now after all of this they find out this was not so.

There were no "weapons of Mass Destruction."

they relied on intelligence gathered from statilites and spy software

WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?

but they had NO FIELD AGENTS ON GROUND IN IRAQ

i ask you: should the U.S have so much power and yet still use i irresbonsibly?
and not accept that they were wrong?

It wasn't just the intelligence problem but the U.S administration as whole.
NOONE QUESTIONED :Hmmm.....maybe we are wrong.....maybe there are not any weapons of mass destruction[since we gave them the weapons in 1990 maybe they used it allredy]

noone questioned the judgement and actions of the president.they were all just thinking one mindedly and considering the consequences of their actions.
obviously thier credability has been greatly degraded.                    
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« on: July 10, 2004, 12:42:40 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2004, 10:33:07 PM »
rather than stressin over the fact that they invaded and found no WOMD but got some cheap oil.

you should consider if they didn't have the might to invade and that there was indeed, WOMD.

Do not forget WW2, Sept 11,  cuban missile crisis, Iraq's invasion of Kuwait and the arms race with mother russia. Be thankful that there is a US and Britain strong enough to "deal" with such world issues.

Lord knows we can't.

Caricom couldn't / didn't do jack for the haiti coup. Barbados didn't save the day in 1990 when bakr run rampant on NAR.

Also, America is not one big homogenous entity that acts as a whole. Decisions are made by People voting, just the same as we do in Trinidad. Same goes for Britain.

People, as you know, are subject to error.

Now let's see which nations are going to stop Korea / China when they threaten to start flingin nuclear missiles.                    

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2004, 01:29:40 PM »
true.... we NEED the US and Britan, though they may have killed thousands of innocents and created mutations for decades to come [agent orange, depleted uraniam] and their 'smart' bombs killed more civilians than the terrorists ever did......  

 The US IS acting in its own interests and as long as WE fall on that list of iteresting things the jamaat can try to take over only to be pushed back out. Though if the retarded government DIDn't allow them to walk free.... most of this crime wouldn't exist right now.                    
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2004, 08:06:19 PM »
sure ppl are subject to error

but the calibre of their error and the circumstances under which it was created could have been easily avoided if they took the initiative to review
thier decision on their reasons for the invasion.

such a complacent error on thier part and the magnitude of suffering the created questions their ability to use their power
responsibly.

so what if Korea/China has a nuclear weapons program.......?
what in dication is there dat they are jus going to use it irresponsibly
thier nuclear facilites cud just be used for the generation of electricity

i tink its the U.S who have mislead the public to believe dat they have a neclear wepons program......
and dat it will ead to the destruction of the world.......
why?.....b'cause then the US wud no longer be in full controll......
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2004, 12:14:05 AM »
carlsberg, why don't you go to america and tell them you crap

it isn't like if you are making a difference/going out and doing something

and you are gullibe to anything anti american, yet you see things totally onesided

and you posting so much anti US that it almost come to the point where you spamming by repeating yourself over and over again

look if you jelous of the US become a citizen and live the dream

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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2004, 02:07:16 PM »
kerry is just as much balls

he is a politician just like bush that will do whatever is politically expedient at the time                    
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2004, 02:23:13 AM »
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Though if the retarded government DIDn't allow them to walk free.... most of this crime wouldn't exist right now.


Explain that please.

Rommel are you defending the US because you thought about it alot? or is it Fear or love for their culture.


Bush had to give the citizens closure, so he turned on the next Towel head after Bin, simple as that.  Baego has a point. They are stong and they keep order. But sometimes the rest of the world has to turn their backs when the US seeks it's own interest.  Saddam had his thing going on over there making people's lives miserable  and he didnt ned WMD's to do it. If he had them they were to be used against large countries like the US trying to spoil his fun. And he didnt use any. Therefore there is none. Most likely it was for oil, because a Republican waking up one morning and saying, "I think I shall help a nation"  dont happen.
and Saddam WAS a terrorist in many ways. They don't just blow places up. So some good came out of it I guess.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2004, 11:18:29 AM »
bush go be back in power i feel...dem americans arent the smartest ppls (no offence to anyone)                    

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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2004, 05:49:48 PM »
And then there will be war.  That happens: war on US soil before 2010.                    
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2004, 07:01:23 PM »
a serious war on US soil will change their attitudes towards everyone else.... they have become much to complacent and biased....  when its THEIR own home towns that the 'smart' bombs are causing 'collateral' damage, they will know how the rest of the world feels , and for a few decades to follow we will see a much nicer US power.                    
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2004, 07:11:45 PM »
i think kerry should be in power but in the end i just don't think it's going to happen so i pray for an  assassination  :):)                    

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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2004, 06:24:54 PM »
sorry, the CIA only does that to presidents who don't want to go to war.                    

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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2004, 07:55:09 PM »
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carlsberg, why don't you go to america and tell them you crap

it isn't like if you are making a difference/going out and doing something

and you are gullibe to anything anti american, yet you see things totally onesided

and you posting so much anti US that it almost come to the point where you spamming by repeating yourself over and over again

look if you jelous of the US become a citizen and live the dream

but dammit, we get it you think they are crooks, well what a surprise, look we have our own sitting in a red house, why don't you do something about them and stop just talking about it


so what am i supposed to do?
shut up?
not talking about it isn't gonna make it go away.
and....i am updating de ppl on the current situation
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2004, 08:01:07 PM »
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Though if the retarded government DIDn't allow them to walk free.... most of this crime wouldn't exist right now.


Explain that please.


the government GAVE the jamaat pardon , a piece of land and WAY to much freedom.                    
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2004, 04:22:56 PM »
I support the US because I have thought about it

Carlsberg, talking about it wouldn't make it go away either

and by updating you mean talking about the same Iraq war with no WMD

or has there been another one while I was sleeping


you have been posting the same thing in different posts and have not updated anything, just pushed your half cocked arguements over and over

the fact is they have no real substance

like waggy said

they don't just decide to blow things up

the reasoning a world government uses when making decisions on an international scale, is not similar to how normally people go about doing business, for good reason                    
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