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MICROSOFT UNVEILS THE XNA:SOFTWARE BEHIND THE XBOX 2
« on: March 25, 2004, 10:33:26 PM »
Microsoft has revealed the software behind the xbox 2 called the xna.

The xna is the platform on which all games for the xbox 2 will be made. Two give game developers, standard too work with so they can spend more time on the game itself, rather than making it conform to the xbox software.

Microsoft also stated that software is the future of gaming not just hard ware, in response to sony releasing info on there Sony cell (the multi processor heart of the ps3).

This release is hot on the heels of info being released that the xbox 2 wont have a hard drive. (This is largely in part, an attempt to reduce xbox cost AND an attempt to dissuade linux users from modding the xbox)

For more info on the xna and a look at what to expect of the xbox 2,
check this release.
http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/features/defau...bsectionid=1636


For those blessed with dsl or some other form of broad band, or those who just wish to take the time to download it, here are links to the released movies of three games/game movies released showing of the xna's potential

ftp://ftp.futurenet.co.uk/pub/dailyradar/..._Crash_demo.wmv
ftp://ftp.futurenet.co.uk/pub/dailyradar/...oir_demo.wmv%20
http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/features/defau...bsectionid=1636


For those blessed with dsl or some other form of broad band, or those who just wish to take the time to download it, here are links to the released movies of three games/game movies released showing of the xna's potential

ftp://ftp.futurenet.co.uk/pub/dailyradar/..._Crash_demo.wmv
ftp://ftp.futurenet.co.uk/pub/dailyradar/...oir_demo.wmv%20
                   

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« on: March 25, 2004, 10:33:26 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2004, 10:53:13 PM »
cool stuff let the wars begin :D                    

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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2004, 07:27:23 AM »
There is no war
Only one can win
The Power of X                    
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2004, 07:39:14 AM »
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There is no war
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The Power of X


yeah X is the best clan!
but i go still go with ps3 once i know it can play ps2+ps1 games :)                    

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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2004, 08:45:23 AM »
don't know any of those thing the companies will release info later . Sony will most likely have backward compadibility though they got a ps2 on a chip now adays . Download the videos they have amazed . production stuido class CG                    

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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2004, 08:45:23 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2004, 08:53:37 AM »
XBOX 2 is not supposed to be backwards compatible. It is using a different code to read the games than it used to.
There is also a rumor going around that they will be using 4.5 gig memory cards. All 3 consoles are using ATI graphics cards and all 3 consoles are getting their chips built by IBM.
Honestly i find the backwards compatibility a waste of time. How many people really use it in the first place? Its just a novelty, well  except for Gran Turismo.                    

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2004, 09:03:51 AM »
Actually, the XNA is more than just a development system for the X-Box or X-Box 2, it also caters for Windows games as well.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/03/24/ne...ws_6092125.html

It's a cross-platform development system. And judging from the demos, it's one worthy of notice.

As for the questions about backward compatability for the X-Box, I wouldn't hold your breath on that, the differences in architecture may well stop such plans in their tracks. It's not only the switch from nVidia to ATI, but also the decision to drop the hard drive component among others. But who knows, they may just pull a rabbit out of their hat and surprise everyone, tho I doubt. Time will tell.                    

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2004, 07:32:24 PM »
ATi pwns all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MUA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

nVidia never
ATi forever.

XBOX ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                    


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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2004, 08:31:08 PM »
great new console for me to dominate                    

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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2004, 04:18:30 PM »
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XNA is supposed to bridge that gap between Xbox, Xbox 2 and the PC. When you come down to it since Xbox 2 will be Mac based it may not be that hard. What will be hard is compensating for the HDD.

About the multiple processors in next-gen console systems... interestingly enough John Carmack mentioned in his GDC address that four CPU's won't make it four times as fast even if they make each one powers a quarter of the screen. He suggested it would be better to use an extra CPU for audio alone, but even that would be 'awkward' in his words.

Carmack is also in high praise of the NV40 saying it'll be two years before games will begin to challenge it. You can believe that since he recently installed a beta NV40 card in his PC.

ATI is king but for how long?



wait he said mac based
y doesn't microsoft just make it windows based?
not like dats a bad thing :-D                    

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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2004, 04:54:49 PM »
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XBOX 2 is not supposed to be backwards compatible. It is using a different code to read the games than it used to.  
There is also a rumor going around that they will be using 4.5 gig memory cards. All 3 consoles are using ATI graphics cards and all 3 consoles are getting their chips built by IBM.
Honestly i find the backwards compatibility a waste of time. How many people really use it in the first place? Its just a novelty, well  except for Gran Turismo.


well in the case of ps2 and the ps1 backwards compatability, alot of people use it. so i eh know what mctery you tlaking.                    

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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2004, 04:55:43 PM »
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XNA is supposed to bridge that gap between Xbox, Xbox 2 and the PC. When you come down to it since Xbox 2 will be Mac based it may not be that hard. What will be hard is compensating for the HDD.

About the multiple processors in next-gen console systems... interestingly enough John Carmack mentioned in his GDC address that four CPU's won't make it four times as fast even if they make each one powers a quarter of the screen. He suggested it would be better to use an extra CPU for audio alone, but even that would be 'awkward' in his words.

Carmack is also in high praise of the NV40 saying it'll be two years before games will begin to challenge it. You can believe that since he recently installed a beta NV40 card in his PC.

ATI is king but for how long?



wait he said mac based
y doesn't microsoft just make it windows based?
not like dats a bad thing :-D


BECAUSE WINDOWS SUX!                    

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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2004, 04:57:01 PM »
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Actually, the XNA is more than just a development system for the X-Box or X-Box 2, it also caters for Windows games as well.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/03/24/ne...ws_6092125.html

It's a cross-platform development system. And judging from the demos, it's one worthy of notice.

As for the questions about backward compatability for the X-Box, I wouldn't hold your breath on that, the differences in architecture may well stop such plans in their tracks. It's not only the switch from nVidia to ATI, but also the decision to drop the hard drive component among others. But who knows, they may just pull a rabbit out of their hat and surprise everyone, tho I doubt. Time will tell.


yeap xna does sound cool, i hadda see how this gonna work, i have strong doubts though. pyeonging pc games on xbox an thing. real compatability things coming into play oui.                    

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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2004, 04:58:02 PM »
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ATi pwns all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MUA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

nVidia never
ATi forever.

XBOX ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



just another mc in the mist.
nvidia can come back to the top
xbox sux, only good game is ninja gaiden :)                    

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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2004, 11:17:58 PM »
wow wow how the hell is the xbox 2 gonne be mac based? mind explaining that?
the first xbox isnt windows based either, but it sure as hell isnt mac based.                    

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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2004, 11:31:46 PM »
they using IBM chips what in de world that got to do with mac programs given that macs now run on ibm chips but anyway Ms will write code to make it work so it not windows or mac but something new                    

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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2004, 11:26:51 AM »
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ATi pwns all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MUA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

nVidia never
ATi forever.

XBOX ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



just another mc in the mist.
nvidia can come back to the top
xbox sux, only good game is ninja gaiden :)


and Halo, is it too dated to mention now? I'll settle for Ninja Gaiden then.
ATi will hold the top spot 4EVA!!! [insert evil laugh here]                    


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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2004, 12:22:58 PM »
halo is good, just that i doh like the control on it. hell i doh like playing fps games on console at all. but its an good game :)

played it on pc and loved it                    

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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2004, 09:56:21 AM »
Saying that the X-Box 2 is "Mac based" is totally off...it will use PowerPC chips yes, but that in no way makes it "Mac based".

John Carmack should stick to programming great game engines and stop speaking the ish nVidia hands him on the cue cards...but hey, more power to him if he makin some easy money by endorsing their products....who'd a thunk that endorsements could make it to the gaming world :D Guess not everyone has to be a sports superstar ;)

And yuh hadda excuse ramp...he jes jealous cos he bought a PS2 instead of an X-Box, is not he fault...even the best amongst us makes a wrong decision every now and then ;) :P                    

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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2004, 07:58:34 AM »
lol, don't kill each other...

fellas, just saw those XNA demo clips...most impressive.                    

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