Author Topic: The Last Saumari (Read 18665 times)

PapaSmurf · « **Reply #40 on:** December 11, 2003, 02:28:40 PM »

hmmm....Tom cruise plays a bloddy Geishin *foreigner*

The problem arch is that movies generally serve to educate ppl to a great extent on the history, topics and themes interwoven with the story. Ppl will look at that movie and think that there were white Samurai existing in Japan during that era, and that is a major miscontrsiation of history. To become a samurai you have to be either born into the family or specially adorned by the emperor - like that would ever happen. The social structure of japan in the 1300's was soo strict that even your cousins born to your father's sister would never be able to become samurai. And now you want to tell me a fresh water yankee can become a keeper of bushido? you have to be smoking.

Carigamers · « **Reply #40 on:** December 11, 2003, 02:28:40 PM »

Kayode · « **Reply #41 on:** December 12, 2003, 12:44:07 AM »

My real problem with the movie is not Tom Cruise becoming a samurai...although that is a pack of nonsense by itself.

It's the fact that they felt they needed him in the first place, in such a context, to tell the story.

It's a symptom of the whiteboy-absorbs-foriegn-culture-becomes-better-at-it-than-natives-and-saves-their-world syndrome. Best seen "artistically" in flicks like Dancing with Wolves, Atlantis, the Mummy Returns etc.

Of course every culture will try to make their members and their worldview seem superior, but sometimes the efforts are too flickin out there to take seriously.

Why didn't they just have Cruise as a reporter, or a bureaucrat?
Why even use him? Why not use a Westernised Japanese youth, like one of those same young men who Cruise was hired to train?

Of course, this is all a matter of opinion and perspective, and it depends on how deeply you want to read into the movie, and which parts you want to read into. I'm speaking from my viewpoint, and I'm wary and weary of themes like this. It bothers me even more because of the respect I have for the genre.

But that's just me. If yuh want a nice lil chop-up and action, you big up.

ARCH_ANGEL · « **Reply #42 on:** December 12, 2003, 09:15:49 AM »

The history of movies has shown that... They were always meant to be an entertainment vehicle first... But some smart people realised the effectiveness of the media and decided to use it to make it an educational tool. Used to show view points and points in history that is very hard to accept or absorb from a book...
As KAyo said the documentary on History channel and National Geographic was used to tell the true story and many people eyes would be open to learning more about ancient japanese culture after seeing this movie.. SOmetimes a lie is the pathway to truth ?

Kayode · « **Reply #43 on:** December 12, 2003, 09:35:46 AM »

I don't know about smart people. EVERY artist uses art to push an agenda, whether it's a national, religious, racial, social, political, financial or personal one. It was never "only about entertainment". When you create art, whether you recognise it or not, you're making a statement about the world around you.

Mercusho_Arazi · « **Reply #44 on:** December 25, 2003, 10:25:52 PM »

Geez allyuh coulda at least spell samurai rite on d title.
anyway, i'm gonna to see it, just to see how hollywood justifies this misguided concept, if i'll pay to do so, is another thing.

Carigamers · « **Reply #44 on:** December 25, 2003, 10:25:52 PM »

QDizzle · « **Reply #45 on:** December 26, 2003, 10:13:32 AM »

allyuh not takin this a lil too personal come on man ah mean is not exactly a reality documentary like wha mel gibson did with braveheart which was real foakin bad on d scene but it should be good is about some drunkard us soldier who get call in to train a japanese mercenary army to get rid of samurai that says hollywood fiction all over it

battousai · « **Reply #46 on:** December 26, 2003, 12:09:06 PM »

jus have a problem with tom cruise acting as a samurai

Exar_Kun · « **Reply #47 on:** December 27, 2003, 03:45:09 PM »

Just thought I mention my thoughts on this movie:

It was probably one of the best movies I have seen in years.Abolutely magnificent.If there's one movie I give Best Picture to it's this.
Very powerful and moving.

The historical discontinuities didn't bother me in the slightest.Historical fiction in some occassions turns out to be better and more gripping than the real thing.Anyone who disagrees just got b**** slapped by the mighty "Romance of the Three Kingdoms".
Tom really played his best role ever in this I think.

Zero · « **Reply #48 on:** December 27, 2003, 07:15:50 PM »

I think it looks great
can't wait to see it!
CANT!!! WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The_Dark_Goddess · « **Reply #49 on:** December 27, 2003, 09:45:23 PM »

i saw it the other night, i thought it was gonna be total crap, it was actually not half bad at all.
i'm not much of a tom cruise fan but he played his part well.
The movie's most impressive feature was that my dad stayed awake through it, he didnt fall asleep...yay!

Junior · « **Reply #50 on:** December 27, 2003, 10:03:57 PM »

i got word that it was good and i plannin to check it out for myself

KillZone · « **Reply #51 on:** January 17, 2004, 12:36:56 AM »

today i went and see the last saumari and it was a REALLy great movie it had action ,drama, love ,hate........ it had everything that a good movie should have

Aka_Neo · « **Reply #52 on:** January 17, 2004, 04:04:24 PM »

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today i went and see the last saumari and it was a REALLy great movie it had action ,drama, love ,hate........ it had everything that a good movie should have

although it had all that the should have had some one better........... like someone who had experience in those kind of stuff

Exar_Kun · « **Reply #53 on:** January 17, 2004, 05:16:13 PM »

Like acting.Tom Cruise is an excellent actor.

If you put martial artists in a film you just get bad acting galore.

Aka_Neo · « **Reply #54 on:** January 17, 2004, 05:40:06 PM »

i know someone who can act better than tom cruise but i can remember his name but he is a far better actor than him..... i am sure u will agree when i get his name

Reaper2051 · « **Reply #55 on:** January 17, 2004, 09:12:47 PM »

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~Psycho^Dunpeal~ · « **Reply #56 on:** January 18, 2004, 12:50:06 AM »

wait... how long this showin for? cause i REALLY need to see it... ever since matrix when i saw the preview i was liek i GOTS tO see it... that and troy

QDizzle · « **Reply #57 on:** January 19, 2004, 01:15:56 AM »

ok i now come back dey from watchin it i was entertained from start to end it seriously surprise mih ah wasnt expecting it to be that good and that samurai Katsozuki right hand man the long dark hair one who real break up tom cruise when he was playing with the stick he was real hot he shouldna dead so soon he shoulda dead when they reach the gattling gun

~*Ashiee*~ · « **Reply #58 on:** January 19, 2004, 10:35:44 AM »

i heard this is a must see and i will be checking it out sometime this week!

KillZone · « **Reply #59 on:** January 19, 2004, 09:30:09 PM »

i give this movie 2 thumbs up it is a must see

Carigamers · « **Reply #59 on:** January 19, 2004, 09:30:09 PM »

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