Author Topic: 20" lcd's (Read 6619 times)

Prowl · « **on:** December 22, 2006, 11:33:10 PM »

Just ordered one, a viewsonic 2025wm, what you guys use?

Carigamers · « **on:** December 22, 2006, 11:33:10 PM »

Netizen1 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 23, 2006, 09:47:17 AM »

BenQ FP202W Black 20.1" 8ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 600:1
http://www.benq-eu.com/Products/LCD/index.cfm?product=589

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824014105

On order...

Prowl · « **Reply #2 on:** December 24, 2006, 07:10:53 PM »

Sweet LCD there and very similar to the 2025! ( Benq has an identical lcd to the 2025 actually )

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #3 on:** December 24, 2006, 08:41:13 PM »

It amazing how the prices of these quality units compare to what u had to pay for a smaller, lower quality unit a couple years back. Definately will be getting myself on of those eventually.

Trinitus · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2006, 02:26:25 PM »

What about HD output Monitors anyone know of any?

Carigamers · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2006, 02:26:25 PM »

Prowl · « **Reply #5 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:32:55 PM »

There are several but only a few have hdmi compliance!

you looking for a monitor or a tv or a combo?

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #6 on:** January 04, 2007, 07:31:53 PM »

Quote from: Prowl on January 04, 2007, 04:32:55 PM

There are several but only a few have hdmi compliance!

While the physical connection is important, it is 10X more important to make sure that the monitor is HDCP compliant. If it is not, then forget about watching any type of HD content from HD-DVD or Blu Ray discs, without taking a severe quality and resolution hit, anyway. One such monitor is the Samsung SM205BW
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-SM205BW-inch-WSXGA+-Monitor/dp/B000F9SNIW

Prowl · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2007, 01:03:04 AM »

I just got my samsung 215tw, over the viewsonic since it had hdcp.

very happy now

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #8 on:** January 09, 2007, 06:29:06 AM »

Very smart move going the HDCP way, but WTMC @ the price!!! According to Newegg, its about $470US!!

Netizen1 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 09, 2007, 08:07:10 AM »

damn, back to the shopping cart I go then... cuz my choice doesn't seem to be HDCP compliant either

EDIT:

Forget that HDCP for now oui!!!!
The price is waaaaay above my budget, so back to the original choice, and later, when prices fall, I'll think I'll consider one for HD

Prowl · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2007, 01:46:52 PM »

LOL Some of us have "special" discounts from some makers, samsung is one of them for me

but it only works once so don't ask me to get another one for 1 yr.

Real sweet lcd to!

W1nTry · « **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2007, 02:18:48 PM »

LMAO @ men bigging up HDCP... do you all even KNOW what that stands FOR? High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection. AKA DRM infected, AKA stealing ur DIGITAL RIGHTS... LMAO. Dudes... HDCP is something you pay for, knowingly or not. Meaning Intel has a patent for the chip design that gives you 'HDCP' certification. Coupled with a DRM aware OS, say like Vista and an TRUE HD drive and media say like Blue ray and HD-DVD, its basically all parts that make up RESTRICTING your ability to use your media in a way YOU deem fit. Meaning, BR won't WORK UNLESS you have HDCP, UNLESS you have DRM infected software like Vista and it gives the manufacturers the right to say WHERE you can watch ur content, how many TIMES you can, if you can back it up (lemme answer this now, NO)... you guys should be more careful with what you tout as a GOOD idea. Read around the forums now and again, I constantly post in the "selling our digital rights" thread. If you've never read it before, I suggest you head over and read it up. You'll see how MS and other big manu (read intel) are slowly but surely pulling in the net around us... before you know it, you can't take a $HIT without MS knowing about it and having to ask them for permission.

In fact read the little Wiki on it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP
Pay particular attention to the part that says:

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For example, High-definition digital video content must be restricted to DVD quality on non-HDCP compliant video outputs when requested by the source.

Prowl · « **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2007, 04:36:46 PM »

Considering how much I got the lcd for, and also that I use linux, I'll watch what I want, when I want.

Plus with true 1080i/720p/480p capacity as much as intel making money I won't complain

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #13 on:** January 09, 2007, 05:13:08 PM »

We hear yuh loud and clear there, the whole situation is just a sh!tty one, but what do you suggest as an alternative? The only way we getting away from this DRM thing is if everyone switch to linux like prowl, or don't buy any new hardware. Wanna buy a dx10 vid card? Make up your mind that its DRM infected.

DRM is not a good thing, but it is always nice to have the feature to view these types of content than not to.

W1nTry · « **Reply #14 on:** January 11, 2007, 09:08:47 AM »

The question is, when they finally sprang their trap... how will it affect other content? if you have a DRM infected drive, display, OS and video card... whats to stop them from displaying a nice lil pop-up saying: "The media you are attempting to view is illegal content as it does not have requried signatures (aka not windows formats) and thus cannot be shown on your display..." I mean really, what would stop them?

Beomagi · « **Reply #15 on:** January 11, 2007, 11:15:23 AM »

Having hdcp on a display means drm crap players - bluray and hd-dvd will display on it. That's all.

It's better to have it on the display than not. If you dont have an hdcp display, dont even bother with hddvd or bluray.

W1nTry · « **Reply #16 on:** January 11, 2007, 11:32:37 AM »

Who's been bothering so far? anyone see the prices of those drives? right....

Prowl · « **Reply #17 on:** January 11, 2007, 01:03:21 PM »

those prices are expected to drop my mid year, once the players hit the $200 mark they'll start selling like hot cakes! when $300 burners arrive any copy protection will be lost as hackers will always find a way around this crap. so give them 1 year to enjoy their hdcp.

W1nTry · « **Reply #18 on:** January 11, 2007, 01:14:39 PM »

Well I know the gun with which to shoort BR and HD-DVD encryption is already done.. its cracking the keys that'll be the trick. We'll see in time. Software to circumvent hardware, but not just hardware, different parts + the OS...

Beomagi · « **Reply #19 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:51:09 PM »

if you're talking about computer monitors, the price of an HD player is $200 (xbox) + power dvd version that plays hd.

Carigamers · « **Reply #19 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:51:09 PM »

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