Xbox 360 vs. PS3 - Round 1

[shivadee]

i hope so veggie. Despite the fact that the 360 does have more and better games as of late, i dont want Microsoft pushing SONY out of the vg market. I dont care if they "win the war" but if its enough to drop SONY so much that they stop producing hardware (like SEGA) i would be most pissed.
But to be quite honest. I dont see the PS3 recovering from this one for at least a year.

the "SONY go win man" talk should stay as talk. It isnt fact, it isnt statistical, it isnt anything but opinion. Talking about hardware of the console doesnt mean i give a sh!t either, that is specifically why you dont have designers speaking much (or atall) about game sales and profits (they know nothing about it *FYI I dont do design LOL*)

SONY isn't fighting for exclusivity, they are losing exclusivity (GTA and Virtua Fighter) and they are not fighting FOR exclusivity (Lost Planet, Bioshock, Conan MMO). All im seeing at Best Buy, in magazines and on TV is Blu Ray movie promotions, you even get Talladega Nights bundled as promotion with some of the launch system, but no games.

These things have me worried. SONY has become too complacent and i dont like the way this system is heading as a vg system atall. If they are trying to convert the PS2 fanbase into the casual console gamer who "watches movies and plays games" in that order their scheme is already a waste of time, despite their fanbase. I dont want to see SONY losing out atall, but they are certainly being handed their hat.

[Beomagi]

True you can talk a vs b on different levels - capability, economically etc. I see capability first Sony's big enough to survive, and has too much invested in their vg branch to kill it. The ps3 WILL carry on - while it's not producing games as clean as the xbox360 - most gamers wont see the difference. The current markets the ps3 is shipping to (japan/us) has enough people who are willing to buy it (kids REAL spoil here!) keeping it out of stock.

The average person in gamestop or ebgames knows nothing about hd. They "know" the ps3 is a powerful game system, regardless of the marketing.

[BeoBear]

Personally I think the PS3 is a blu ray player that plays games and not a video game player that plays blu ray at the moment.

Sony most likely expected to topple both nintendo and Microsoft in one fell swoop this season, but It didnt work out as planned. Nintendo didnt hope for a massive sale, but they got it. and well Microsoft is going strong. So from that standpoint I'd say Sony has catching up to do, but I doubt they will ever turn out like sega, they have far too much money and the abilty to simply pump more into their video game sector.

*cough* Wii60 forever *cough*

[shivadee]

The money wont save them. SONY doesnt have money they want to lose - nobody does really. Advertising is everything as far as the US goes. If your advertisments and marketing is poor you are guaranteed not to sell well (count the many great games that fell under the radar in the US and SEGA is the classic example of poor advertising in the US). However....XBOX 360 can have great games etc etc....and it would still not sell in Japan compared to the PS3 or the Wii. Different demographic for different areas. SONY as we know is selling because of a name, but then, whatever works, that isnt a bad thing...its working, its selling. This is how marketing is, they make profit. Twist the truth (as we've seen in countless movie advertising) and make you believe its something you want.

By the by Beo i went into gamestop today to preorder Burning Crusade and i nearly cussout that b!tch of a sales cleark it have there....woman treating me like im 12 years old talking to me like i do something wrong for asking. (they really stupid in there) These Gamestop ppl does like to talk big till i hand them their @ss about what i do.....then they does shut up real fast and want to be your best friend.

One of them have the audacity to say "Yeah im kinda doing what you're doing as well, im doing computer networking...."

NETWORKING? wtf? You're comparing networking to production design and marketing for games?.....yea you real bright

[Beomagi]

Yeah i knew a couple people that work for them - it's a step up from the "do you want fries with that" job...

[BeoBear]

Oh , I thought you quit wow shivadee, my brother and I are on the line between quittin and getting Burning crusdade, Alot of other trinis from cenarion trying to decide too. Some of em quit but coming back for BC.

[AR!Ø]

well didnt get chance to read all the post but to sum it all up, i own the 2 consoles right now,well 3 actually (2 ps3's- 1 had a disc loading problem and the xbox 360 prem) the ps3 doesnt have any good game going for it so far except for Resistance:Fall of man which i must say is simply amazing, if you ever get a chance to play it ,screw killing the aliens, go shoot the glass on the buildings, pretty sweet, lol, but right now the xbox 360 is ontop IMO because of the amount of games available and as shivadee said,xbox live! Just give the ps3 a good couple more months to settle in and i'll bet it will reign supreme soon enough

damn the first generation of doom....its a crime, nay a sin, to buy such an expensive piece of hardware, only to have it malfunction for stupid reasons

[Arcmanov]

Which is why you don't just run and buy a console just because you feel like you want to be 'somebody' by having it 1st.  All early adopters go through this.
This is well trodden ground for Xbox 360 and PS2 owners.

It is for this reason I waited a whole year (well that AND Gears Of War ) to purchase the
360, and I must say, it was money well spent.

[BeoBear]

Arcman, you wrong they breds!

Nintendo shit does WORK.

1st generation wii on my hands works perrrrrfectly. Im an early adopter, and my baby rocks.

[Beomagi]

Arcman, you wrong they breds!

Nintendo shit does WORK.

1st generation wii on my hands works perrrrrfectly. Im an early adopter, and my baby rocks.

Any company pushing current gen technology will have a probability to make mistakes. One of those is the virtual boy. Nintendo's Wii SHOULD work, since there's less to go wrong.

[BeoBear]

umm, If i build a two way circuit, compared to a freakin lighthouse, it doesnt matter how much it has to go wrong. Its how well its built.  Thats kinda common sense, that statement you made is kinda Ignant. yea i said ignant!

[W1nTry]

I was gonna post this in the Xbox 306 and PS3 threads but fiah, i'll put it here:

Sony makes PS3 targets

One million flogged

By Nick Farrell: Monday 08 January 2007, 07:06
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SONY SAID it managed to make its sales targets for the PS3 in North America over the Christmas sales period.

The console maker had set itself the dizzying target of one million consoles to be sold during the busiest shopping period.

According to the Sydney Morning Herald, Sony felt that it should pat itself on the back by announcing that it had managed to achieve this. To be fair to Sony, it had a few problems getting the much delayed PS3 into the shops on time.

Initial attempts meant that there were too few machines for the punters to queue up for. To make its American targets, Sony decided that Europeans could not get their grubby little paws on them until the middle of 2007.

The net result is that while the figures look good for North America, Sony has only managed to sell half of the number of consoles that it wanted worldwide.

Over at the Volehill, Microsoft said that it sold 10.4 million Xbox 360s during the same period.

Well done...... to both I guess.

And now something for the 360 pplz, check out THIS link. It shows a possible upgrade or rather revision of the existing hardware or just a custom built dev box. Either way its pretty believeable apparently, with pics and all.

[Kenji]

I actually can't believe that there are 1 million idiots that would buy a console that to this day still only have a single good game and nothing even semi decent after. Sony should really pat themselves on the back getting away with that or at least be gald they have some "Yes I will follow you off the cliff" fan-boys

[shivadee]

Well thats how marketing works. It sucks, but thats how it is. SONY is relying on the fanbase to sell their system. On the other hand. I got Lost Planet and Im enjoying it. So....catch u later

[W1nTry]

Give us a heads up on lost planet, i've been waiting for the next good game on the 360 to come out, so put in a lil review there shiv.

[Redlum08]

And Shiv, we sweating GOW this weekend, so be available.....

[Kaizen]

that imposible man
BURNING CRUSADE IS NEAR!

[Redlum08]

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/01/bill_gates_inte.html

Mr. Gates speaks about the Xbox 360 vs. PS3...