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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #140 on: March 28, 2006, 12:12:30 PM »
I couldn't find an email link but I did got to homeviewtnt.com and I was able to leave a message in the feedback section of their site concerning this mornings broadcast.

I suggest all interested parties do the same. There is strength in numbers.

Just go to the site and click on the feedback link at the top of the page then let them know your position on violent video games.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #141 on: March 28, 2006, 01:24:41 PM »
Once again, well done winny with the search and merge

and well done AIDS i gonna follow yur lead with the comments on home view.


I think we should organise a meeting for interested persons, even self online, so we can come up with points to discuss with paul and nicky.

We could come correck from de start and hit dem for 6.

If i had heard that broadcast, i woulda pull aside an call dem,
did that once when they had some fella on talkin bout abstinence and was level beating down all forms of contraception, spreadin some stupid stupid misinformation about the different forms of contraception, just to support the churches stance on it.

I got real heated and rattle off all de correct info, shut them the hell up yes.
Men take ah comercial break and disconnect me all kinda ting.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #142 on: March 28, 2006, 01:28:51 PM »
Done. Put up meh 2c on dat site, I hope more GATTers will follow suite and show a strong support for that which we all have in common a love for gaming.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #143 on: March 28, 2006, 01:35:25 PM »
A meeting is a great idea and I already noted down some points I would like to raise in the arguement. just let me know when and where is convenient and i will definitely be there.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #144 on: March 28, 2006, 01:46:20 PM »
Good day, I along with my fellow gamers heard the morning show with paul and nikki this morning, in which they expressed their view that violence in video games is responsible for breeding criminals in Trinidad and Tobago.

We are apart of an organisation called the gamers association of trinidad and tobago (www.gatt.carigamers.com) which is part of the wider carigamers organisation (carigamers.com)
which is a collection of gamin organisations across the caribbean.

We as a whole are offended by this view and would welcome any opportunity given to us, to dispel this misinformation that violence in video games is breeding criminals in TnT.

We are an organisation of 2300 + members, with gaming locations (internet cafes) across the island, number 15 or more and to date, in the 10 or more years of existence of GATT, there has NEVER been a violent episode at any gaming location. NONE!!
Gamers do not make it part of their directive to become violent because of video games.
We settle our video game disputes with more video games.
Video games are a source of relaxation and also a form of competition where talented gamers compete with each other.
But unlike other competitive sports, such as football, we do NOT break out into acts of violence during, before or after a game, for any reason.


Please visit our forums @ gatt.carigamers.com
to hear our voice.



Das my... 2 cents or so on the matter.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #145 on: March 28, 2006, 07:16:34 PM »
Yes excellent work indeed. These's only one porblem...its people we are dealing with. Where am I coming from? When people have a certain point of view, it is like pulling teeth to look at the broader picture and see the situation in a broad sense. The people who feel that crime is a result of video games and tv are probably never going to change their minds. I'm not saying that we should give up...i'm just saying that it will be a long hard fight help them understand.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #146 on: March 31, 2006, 08:54:08 AM »
Good day, I along with my fellow gamers heard the morning show with paul and nikki this morning, in which they expressed their view that violence in video games is responsible for breeding criminals in Trinidad and Tobago.

We are apart of an organisation called the gamers association of trinidad and tobago (www.gatt.carigamers.com) which is part of the wider carigamers organisation (carigamers.com)
which is a collection of gamin organisations across the caribbean.

We as a whole are offended by this view and would welcome any opportunity given to us, to dispel this misinformation that violence in video games is breeding criminals in TnT.

We are an organisation of 2300 + members, with gaming locations (internet cafes) across the island, number 15 or more and to date, in the 10 or more years of existence of GATT, there has NEVER been a violent episode at any gaming location. NONE!!
Gamers do not make it part of their directive to become violent because of video games.
We settle our video game disputes with more video games.
Video games are a source of relaxation and also a form of competition where talented gamers compete with each other.
But unlike other competitive sports, such as football, we do NOT break out into acts of violence during, before or after a game, for any reason.


Please visit our forums @ gatt.carigamers.com
to hear our voice.



Das my... 2 cents or so on the matter.

Agreed

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #147 on: March 31, 2006, 07:36:21 PM »
   It is impossible to say that games are the fault of violence or crime....I think that it is the parents' fault....A while ago I waz playin GTA san andreas an my nephew waz watchin me ...so after a while i heard him pointing and making gun noises,,,so,k,, i did wat any smart trini wud do an hit him "2 tap"...yuh know after dat he neva do it again.......Why some other parent cyah do dey chile dat.....All dem lil chilren need is d "2 tap" dat most of we get...
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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #148 on: April 04, 2006, 10:27:42 AM »
Paul and niki are at it again. I heard them this morning again bashing violent video games.

Did anybody even get a reply from a representative of 96.1 with regards to them coming to a gaming centre to get a more complete story?

I guess it's easier for them just to sit and blame something they don't fully understand than to take the time to actually do some sort of investigative reporting and come to a conclusion.

Evenso, i had an interesting thought. They keep saying that these games breathes criminals so I wanted all the gamers to state their age, location and their current occupation just as a small survey of wether or not gaming has affected our abilities to become highly productive citizens.

Starting with me:

I am 26 years old.
Currently employed at B & Tees (Native Spirit) as IT / inventory supervisor.
Former jobs include Graphic Artist / Customer Service Rep. (RBTT)
Hobbies include All forms of digital and analog art, Music production, 3d and 2d animation, movie production and editing, DVD production, computer programming, garment manufacture and design, etc.

Current Criminal Record - Non existant.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #149 on: April 05, 2006, 10:42:57 AM »
I think it would be helpful if someone posted the phone # of 96.1FM so that gamers could call in and as Nikki would put it "WHY Wednesday" like "Why is it allyuh bashing de video games and not the parents?" I would call but I swear when I driving and they blurt out the phone # FAST FAST like they eh want we calling I does cyah rem the # to call and I does just say fiah oui. Plus if I not in traffic man shouldn't be dialing up a storm and getting vex dat early in de morning. In the least someone could call in and tell them to visit this website for more info and opinions.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #150 on: April 05, 2006, 10:55:39 AM »
well i hoped that my post on the feedback of their forum would have gotten them to come to the website

buh it might really take ah serious vexx call to them to get them to listen to we.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #151 on: April 05, 2006, 12:03:13 PM »
The number for their office is 628-9336

and to get on air is 628-9696

So call and let your vioce be heard.

I also had hoped that my feedback on their site would do the trick but still no luck. I will see if I can get on to somebody their and get them to visit both the site and some of the GL's but that is easier said than done.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #152 on: April 06, 2006, 09:37:21 AM »
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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #153 on: April 11, 2006, 01:43:15 PM »
Read the last part of this article carefully, the part about the 'fair' punishment over their henious acts... now apply to other cases... *coughs sean luke* *coughs* have a read:
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XBox murder trial begins

Six burger-flippers battered in console dispute


By Nick Farrell: Tuesday 11 April 2006, 15:34

THE TRIAL of three men accused of killing up to six people with aluminium baseball bats in a dispute over an XBox has started in Orlando.
Prosecutors claim Troy Victorino, 29, Robert Cannon and Michael Salas, both 20, and Jerone Hunter, 19, organised the violent attack to retrieve an Xbox that Victorino lost when he was kicked out of a house in Deltona, Florida.

Some of the victims were killed in their sleep while others were said to be unable to resist the attack, which took place in August 2004.

Cannon previously admitted the charge and will receive life in prison in exchange for his testimony. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for the others.

The victims all worked at the local Burger King and had been terrorised for some days before the attack over the XBox, prosecutors say.

The Xbox had been left by Victorino at a Deltona squat and was subsequntly taken by one of the victims.

Prosecutor Leah Case said the death penalty would be "an appropriate punishment" for such a heinous crime.

More from AP on Wired, here.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2006, 03:51:51 PM by W1nTry »

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #154 on: April 11, 2006, 01:46:35 PM »
And yet 1 more... prolly not in us gamers favour, but this is just to show we're fair here and look at both sides of the matter... I suppose I agree with this article..esp after playing Silent Hill or Doom 3... yuh constantly looking over yuh shoulders... however I could equally if not moresover say that I am more cautious not becuase of violent video games as much as I am afraid of all those evil ppl out dere killing, raping, kidnapping, etc.
Read:
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Violent games make men paranoid potheads

We know you are out to get us, but that’s cool


By Nick Farrell: Monday 10 April 2006, 14:36

TWO boffins claim that violent video games make you paranoid and more likely to indulge in booze and suffer from reefer madness.
Dr Sonya Brady, of the at the University of California San Francisco, and Professor Karen Matthews, of the University of Pittsburgh, did a study of 100 young undergraduates to see if they were more likely to be hostile if they have just played a violent game.

They had them play one tame game and another involving car theft and bashings, which we assume was Grand Theft Auto. Then, afterwards study participants watched a scenario in which a teacher tells a class he suspects some students have cheated in a test. He then asks to see "Billy" after class.

Participants were told to imagine themselves as Billy, and if they thought the teacher was going to accuse them of cheating. Apparently those who played the violent game were more likely to think they had been accused of cheating. Apparently if you think this you are paranoid. Sheesh.

Brady said the study also showed that young men were more likely to think it is acceptable to smoke marijuana and drink alcohol after playing a violent game.

But if all this drinking and reefer madness is all down to violent video games, what is the excuse for those of us who don’t play violent video games?

More here.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #155 on: April 11, 2006, 01:51:06 PM »
This 1 is more in our favour... I have to ask.. if more kids are playing LESS games and playing real games out there (otherwise known as sports and the like) then how do you account for the increase in violence amoungst kids? surely violent video games right???? the ones LESS ppl play.... RIGHT....hmmm bakas:
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Computer games turn kids off

Why can't I play football?


By Nick Farrell: Tuesday 11 April 2006, 15:01

BEAN COUNTERS Piper Jaffray have announced the rather surprising news that teens of today are bored with video games and want to do something else.
The results of the 11th bi-annual proprietary research survey called "Taking Stock With Teens" looks at teen spending habits and retail brand perceptions.

Senior Retail Analyst Jeff Klinefelter, along with a team of senior research analysts hunted down teenagers to their natural habitat, which in the US is a mall.After trying to engage them in the disinterested grunts that characterise the species he managed to get the information from 700 teens from 12 high schools in nine states across the country and Canada.

Apparently 81 percent of them have at least one video game platform in the house and 59 percent said that they are occasional game players (playing at least monthly).

But more than 80 percent said that they intended to spend less time playing video games in 2006 and nearly 70 percent indicated that their interest in playing video games is decreasing.

Sheesh! Kids of today, innit?.

More here.

PS anyone call de morning show?

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #156 on: April 11, 2006, 03:53:05 PM »
Good work W1nTry. It seems we have better reporters in GATT than at WEFM.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #157 on: April 11, 2006, 04:17:05 PM »
natural habit of teenagers is school wda them talking bout. and gamers wont b in the mall they most likely b home sweating game.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #158 on: April 20, 2006, 03:08:34 PM »
More nonesense... or neglect on behalf of a parent as I see it.
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Eight-year old nicks teacher's motor

Grand Theft Auto blamed for kid's break into crime


By Nick Farrell: Thursday 20 April 2006, 15:53

GRAND THEFT AUTO has been blamed for getting an eight-year old kid interested in car crime.
The nipper has entered his town's history books as the youngest ever car criminal, after he swiped his teacher's keys and drove her minivan around town.

The boy from Modesto, California is the smallest in his class at only four-feet tall. He adjusted the driver's seat and lowered the steering wheel before adjusting his rear-view mirror and turning off the radio. He drove the vehicle home and parked it outside his house.

The young offender was spotted by a neighbour who called the local plod.

Police say they have had words with the boy, and he will not be charged.

The boy's mum said that the kid's favorite video game is "Grand Theft Auto" and he probably just wanted to see what it was like to drive for real. More here.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #159 on: April 24, 2006, 08:33:18 AM »
This is not related to gaming, but I am using it as a reference to the topic at hand. THe point I want to put across is that if you look at society as a whole you will realize that there is an overall loss in the moral department and pinpointing games as a primary culprit without factoring everything going on around is ignorant. THe following article is about a 17 year old murdered for his MP3 player. And if I had to draw other references, there's poor sean's murder, were games to blame there? and what about back in the day ppl getting murdered for their shoes? I mean game may be a contributin factor, however the way the media slams games as being this great evil is truly misdirected. Without further ado, here's the article:
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80,000 protest MP3 murder

Belgium takes to the streets


By INQUIRER newsdesk: Monday 24 April 2006, 11:49

SOME 80,000 Begians took to the streets of Brussels yesterday to vent their anger over the death of a 17 year-old murdered for his MP3 player.
The protesters won the backing of Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt who said "The demonstration is an important signal which I fully back" He added. "We will put more effort into combating youth crime."

Joe Van Holsbeeck was stabbed to death on April 12 after refusing to hand over his MP3 player to a pair of muggers who approached him and a friend near Brussels Central train station.

Van Holsbeeck's parents joined the silent march Sunday, as flowers were laid at the station.

The boy's father, Guy, told a local television channel: "There is a lot of emotion and it somewhat soothes our pain," AP reported.

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