I wonder if pain is going to take his body? That would be interesting.
as for almost killing jiraiyawas jiraiya trying to kill naruto? no of course notif he wanted to, obviously he could snuff his lights out most easily.
Lol at the idea that Kakashi would stand half a chance in hell against Pain. The same Kakashi that Itachi slap around. The same Itachi that ran with Kisame in tow from Jiraiya. Really now.
And using Jiraiya versus 4-tail is completely legitimate. Because we have another example of someone fighting 4-tail without the intent to kill. Orochimaru was fighting the four tail for kicks and he got away unscathed when he decided he was fed up. Your grenade analogy is total rubbish too since Jiraiya would have clearly seen the transformation happening and also the loss of control that came from the 4th tail. Is not like he get ambush when he was sleeping.
Your Rasenshuriken argument once against comes to nought seeing as how neither Kakashi nor Jiraiya have a thing to do with Naruto forming a Rasenshuriken after he knows how to do it. I certainly didn't see them spinning chakra with the clones.
As for your next statement, that Sasuke is hiding a superior jutsu, you're making a very erroneous assumption: that Sasuke is a genius greater than Naruto. He isn't. So sorry but it's true. Sasuke is smarter, more creative but Naruto has consistently shown a level of ability when it comes to performing jutsus that is far higher than anything Sasuke can do.
BTSNaruto learned Kage Bunshin (A- rank jutsu) before he was even a genin, and learned it in an evening to boot. Sasuke has nothing comparable.Naruto could do Kage level summons even before the chuunin exams were over. Sasuke never showed that ability until PTS.Sasuke did learn an A-rank ninjutsu, Chidori in three months yes. And Naruto learned Rasengan (also A-rank) in what? A couple weeks? Not to mention he did most of the training on his own, not having his hand held like Kakashi did for Sasuke, just basic guidelines from Jiraiya. Rasengan is also much more impressive than Chidori as a jutsu goes.Jutsu it took the 4th HOKAGE 3 years to create > Jutsu Kakashi invented when he was 13
PTSSasuke created alot of chidori variants and while creative, none of which are really on an empirically higher level of power than Chidori itself. Naruto on the other hand had Oodama Ransegan, which is in itself an S-rank ninjutsu.And of course Naruto learns Rasenshuriken, the highest level ninjutsu to ever exist by this point in time.
Now then we can see very clearly that Naruto is far more adept at learning high level jutsu than Sasuke. And even then it took him I think 20 years of training to master Rasenshuriken. Sasuke had 3 years, the length of the time skip, to go higher. I don't think so.
Now then, even if it *is* better, Naruto still holds the trump card. Because he has his own 'that jutsu', a jutsu that is more than just heavily implied to have to do with controlling the entire breath of the Kyuubi chakra sealed within him. So whatever crap Sasuke comes up with will be overshadowed *again*.
I don't mind taking on a Sasuke fanboy but you gonna have to come better than you've been coming so far.
my rasenshuriken argument comes to nought?? what???yu such a fan boy yu ignoring the fact that he cant do a damn rasenshuriken without kakashi or jiraiya doing a rasengan for him to mix the wind chakura with??? you forget that already???
That in mind Kakasi vs. Pain, I do think he'd get pwned but I think Kakashi could take out one or two bodies, he's not a candidate for Hokage FOR NOTHING!
I have to agree with the grenade comment. Oro might have been playing de @$$ HOWEVER he did reach his limit in doing so and had to pull out all the stops to save his @$$ from getting fried whereas Naruubi was still building up, had that fight prolonged much more Oro would have been in FAR worse condition than Jaraiya. And Oro DID TRY TO KILL Naruubi or have you forgotten the sword that COULD NOT penetrate Naruubi? Jaraiya would have had no killing intent towards the 4 tails and as such not use his more powerful jutsu's to subdue the beast. In fact it would suffice to say that Jaraiya received MOST of his wounds from trying to get CLOSE ENOUGH to Naruto to place the seal on his forehead to subdue him rather than going SENIN mode and dropping an Ultimate Rasengan on Naruto head.
I also believe that Sasuke IS still hiding a more powerful Jutsu, possibly a combination of fire and electric chakra manipulation. Sasuke IS a Genius whereas Naruto doesn't really fall into that 'typical' classification as he's NEVER been referred to as that in the ENTIRE series to my best recollection. I would rather say that Naruto is actually more creative (remember since the days of Zabuza) and Sasuke is FAR better at EFFECTIVELY using Jutsu that he knows. Naruto is the #1 un-predictable nin for petes sake! I also do NOT agree with the comment about the LEVEL of jutsu as sasuke's shape and nature manipulation rival that of Naruto. Sure we've NOT seen a jutsu with the destructive power of the Rasenshiruken, but that's not to say he can't do it.
Fact remains that Naruto cannot copy a jutsu on the fly and he cannot effectively use an opponents OWN jutsu against them in the matter of seconds or minutes that Sasuke can. In the long run I think they are BOTH capable of learning a RIDICULOUS amount of High level jutsu, however a direct apples to apples comparison is a bit stupid and more like apples to pineapples
It is NOT the highest level ninjutsu to exist, its merely the highest level jutsu that we've been shown. What would you call Ameretsu? chicken $hit? the point I am making here is akin to what I said above, Sasuke is MUCH better at mastering Jutsu that he knows whereas Naruto has shown his ability to increase the POWER of the jutsu he's learnt which having the FOX does HELP to say the least. He has the Chakra reserves to do the things he does. Also what would you call the Death God summon both the 3rd and 4th put down? you want power, try those on for size.
Exactly, how does 20 years of training vs. 3 show that Naruto has surpassed Sasuke in his ability to master Jutsu? Naruto just has the 'convenient' use of MASS clones. But let me not repeat myself.
I agree and disagree with this. Seeing as Madara has been indicated to have the ability to control the Kyubi, what does this imply for someone who masters and harnesses the full power of the Sharingan? What I am getting at is, can anyone else see how Kishi equals the playing field? naruto has the Kyubi, Sasuke has a bloodline to control the Kyubi. We've already seen him SUPPRESS the Kyubi chakra INSIDE NARUTO HEAD! the way i see it, the idea is that Sasuke would have to use his Sharingan to keep Kyubi at bay in the process using alot of power and Naruto not having the Kyubi would use his own skill, thereby negating both the sharingan and the Kyubi in an 'ultimate final' battle. So that each would have to use the skill and own normal (if it can be called that) strength and power.
I like both characters, Naruto AND sasuke they both have great characteristics of their own. Whilst I think your argument might be slightly better than a 'sasuke fanboy' I also don't think your's or even mine are completely the all end all. We all have our opinions but same way I see flaws in your argument you will undoubtedly see flaws in mine.
