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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #760 on: September 11, 2007, 12:12:41 AM »
Damn thats alot of posts, about sony yes i read that a while ago and i believe they know what they doing to because they in the industry a long time. About Nintendo outselling am i the only one that read nintendo is outselling in consoles but its games arent selling as much and the games are where u make the money but no doubt nintendo is a force to be reckoned with.
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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #761 on: September 11, 2007, 10:35:45 AM »
^ o dude....Seriously?

Game ad at the movies...

Well thats nice :D
That goin on since Splinter Cell 3 CHaose Theory...:P

The one for Gears of War used to make people go "ploi" the "mad mad world" commercial

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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #762 on: September 11, 2007, 10:40:50 AM »
Damn thats alot of posts, about sony yes i read that a while ago and i believe they know what they doing to because they in the industry a long time. About Nintendo outselling am i the only one that read nintendo is outselling in consoles but its games arent selling as much and the games are where u make the money but no doubt nintendo is a force to be reckoned with.
well yes and no about sony. remember the whole reason SONY went into the market is because Nintendo f*cked them over with the CD Addon for their N64. Sony was out to prove that the CD add on was necessary and needed for Data storage in games...and they proved it with Playstation.
They were the leaders for 2 generations straight...and not by a little....but by a landslide, especially with PS2. The only company that has "lead" like that for 2 generations in a row was nintendo with the NES and the SNES...and not even on such a scale as Sony did since Sega was very close on the heels of the NES and even moreso on the SNES.
In other words, it could also be that Sony is shifting a little off the gaming scenario and more on the media scenario....they have reached the top of the game world, dominated the industry...so what more is there to do but expand.
Currently analysts see their Bravia TV's and PS2 systems are still paying the bill of the PS3...however the PS3 "bill" or "losses endured" have dropped. the price of production has decreased because of the demand and the price of the raw materials to produce the console compared to that of a year ago.

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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #763 on: September 12, 2007, 08:16:18 AM »
Food for thought How long before the Ps3 Slim.
Not a diss of any kind from me, I mean come on i owned a Ps1,Ps2,Ps2 slim,Psp and my girl is getting a psp slim and I will eventually get a ps3 but really look at sony's trend. Will it be 2 or 3 years.

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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #764 on: September 12, 2007, 08:34:05 AM »
OK nice point shiv i do agree partially but although they did reach the top of the gaming world that spot is easy to lose if u lose focus on what the console is actually about because look at all the crap sony has to deal with now lol.
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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #765 on: September 12, 2007, 10:31:33 AM »
Food for thought How long before the Ps3 Slim.
Not a diss of any kind from me, I mean come on i owned a Ps1,Ps2,Ps2 slim,Psp and my girl is getting a psp slim and I will eventually get a ps3 but really look at sony's trend. Will it be 2 or 3 years.

Understandable but who knows? who cares? so what? Thing is there will be a price drop in 2-3 years anyway. I had the same thing, Playstation, PSOne, PS2. PS2 Slim..whatever. Doesnt matter if its a "slim" or not. It depends on what the consumer wants.

 You can wait 2-3 years for a price drop and say the PS3 not worth it or so....play games like Heavenly Sword, MGS4, Warhawk long after people finish talking about them and finish with them and start to rave now....or start now. Up to the consumer realy if they have the money to spend on it now or later.

People are saying they are not buying PS3 because it has no games, or because they are "holding out" for the slim version Its because the damn thing costs so much, they want a price cut. THAT is what they want. The PS3, although it is not, is still viewed as a gaming console. (Big part of my final here was on this). So people dont realize that aye...it has Blu-Ray, it has wifi built in, it has Blue tooth, upgradeable HDD,Optical inputs, USB ports...etc etc etc.....People are not seeing or caring bout that..because why? How much people have HD and hardware to utilize all of that?

That is the bottom line...people not willing to spend the cash for the product because the product is a year ahead of its time, 2 years maybee. A jump from DVD to Blu-Ray is not as substantial as a jump from CD to DVD as far as movies go because people dont have the hardware to care to have it yet. This is why MS gives you option....hey look if you want HD DVD well you can get it for...X dollars...if not...you good! no sweat.

Again...its not advertised as that either so people dont know. this is why Arcman sat down with a PS3 and tried it and sayed....way......wow.......that is technology. Look what you have to do to realize this thing has all this potential.....go out an BUY one? go by a friend and "check it out"? No man, Sony should know how to market this thing better. Instead of "with the ability in the near future" or "soon we will"....talk about NOW...what it can do NOW. Because right now the system can do more  than the compeition. Now they need to show us what it can do..they are not doing that.


Sony needs to focus on what it is they are selling. Are you selling a gaming system that is a multimedia device...or a multimedia device that plays games? And why?
« Last Edit: September 12, 2007, 10:37:42 AM by shivadee »

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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #766 on: September 12, 2007, 12:37:03 PM »
You do know that Intel and microsoft and other mainstream players in the PC market have been going after the media center idea for years with little success? I mean I do suppose that Sony better than the rest that have attempted thus have a good chance as their presence in the entertainment arena is better than the rest, however do you really think that ppl would go for it, if it is markets as the media hub of the digital home? as you said yourself, most ppl don't have the hardware to support all the features it supports anyways. Let's also look at what other pieces of home equipment have those capabilities? well namely the PC. Show by raise of hands how many ppl use the bluetooth apart from cell phones and connecting to either other cells or ur PC to pull music, ringtones, media, etc? why use a PS3 which will be limited when you have a PC with unlimited access to all internet content of various formats? or for the more tech savy, I can download whatever I want on the PC and MAKE it work on my cell via different conversions. Blu-Ray... fact remains to be seen whom will win the media wars and SHOULD BR NOT win, how does the PS3 help its selling point? what it comes down to is, I am asking how do YOU SHIV think Sony should market the device? and if it is the home media center how do they market the features of the PS3 as compared to what is already available via your PC?

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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #767 on: September 12, 2007, 01:40:27 PM »
First off.....I dont approve of Sony always trying to redefine media storage devices....i think they are always the "in betweeners" meaning their products are the transition of what is to come. Minidisc, UMD and now Blu Ray which already does not have the level of titles that HD DVD has followed by a TON of "comming soon" titles which we could already get on HD DVD.

Sony should market the PS3 as what it is.....a gaming console. Its called PLAYSTATION people...what was PLAYSTATION two times before? Last i remember it was primarily a gaming system that happened to be a media player in some aspects. but its forte was games. Its a simple code that SONY should follow and its a simple code that would have blown them WAY past doubt by now.

If they are marketing it the PS3 should be that way. Throw in the multimedia part but saying the below in a "marketable" way. Instead of "you all too stupid to realize your PC can do that too"

Allow me to play devils advocate here:

They can argue about the ease of use, with a scaled down system compared to that of a PC you have less "tweaking" and less "converting" and less gateways to go through to format your software for various hardware. However again, you are limited to Sony hardware mostly. And who buys these "scaled down" devices for ease of use but having similar results as that of the "PC genre"....those that are not tech savy or have the time to bother with that level of knowhow.

I dont know what community the PS3 is targeted at. I get the feeling though it is the high income crowd. Now dont get me wrong it isnt just because of the price. Its the price and time to use this device. How long does it take to rip your DVD to the respectable format to put on your ipod, or convert it to AVI to put on a DVD for yourself? Hours maybee?

My point is.....you can dot he same thing....download it in mp4 format and dump it on your PSP or keep it on your PS3 HDD and play it there. You can set the download, leave it and go to work and in the afternoon its there....and the quality is fine.

Whats the difference? with the PS3 you dont have to torrent software, you dont have to search for cracks or hacks. You just use the updates that you get when you turn your PS3 on...the software and conversion is all in there....when its ready you dont need to do anything again.

Okay....so why? Well not everyone, including myself, find that its "cool" or "fun" to tweak something to your liking. If i want to play a game or watch a movie i dont want to do this, and this....and tune this...and "oh wait lemme get this on" and all that sh!t....you do that with your graphics card on your PC...tweak and tune and o/c to your hearts content and you are happy......i HATE that sh!t....i bought this to do this....then do it. Many people who dont have the time, knowhow, patience or sometimes just dont care to bother with these details.

I walked into a guys appartment yesterday...living in this new complex i moved into.....very nice place and stuff. Guy has a 72 inch HD, 7.1 friggin Pradigm system along with some other products and he 360 and Wii and PS3. He says he uses his PS3 for all his media.....including his music. rips his songs, puts his mem stick in.......whatever and watches it on the bigass screen.

And this guy is IT!!!! he knows the stuff....but he is so damn busy he doesn;t bother with it. "im so friggin tired from work the last thing i wanna do is have to decode and recode more sh!t to play on the TV. And i dont have to run wires all over the damn place to get the PC to show on the TV" He just buys the movie on Playstation Network or XBOX LIVE and watches it on the HDD...easy and done.

funny? yes it is!!!! silly? Maybee....but this is how people are! At least here they are. And this is the US market. Three major markets remember? US, Asia and Europe. Ever emailed Sony? I have....several times. Sorry but we do not provide service outside the US area, the Caribbean is not essentially "part" of their zone. We are "grouped" with the US because we chose to be, not because we are. In other words what Sony is saying.....you dont really mean sh!t to us, you're not in our market scheme.

So all the Trini's who have thier A++ certs, and MS certs who love to do this stuff....thats great! hack and crack, burn and pirate...this sh!t is very much on the dl here people. You cant advertise that so here....You want stuff converted and ripped to your HDD make sure you not advertising it. If your MC phone rings off now and plays i dunno.....watshisface new song....people gonna ask you "where you got that" because that sh!t not even up for download yet...fella, one of them people gonna be the wrong people to gloat to. In other words, not everyone is tech savy, not everyone wants to be. We dont use iTunes, but soooooo many people here do, we put our own music on our phone...not here...people spend money EVERY DAY on new ringtones from sites and their providers. They have it, it works, it does what it says it does....thats it. That is the PS3 argument. Its a different market here than in Trini as you well know. Think like that.
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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #768 on: September 12, 2007, 02:37:11 PM »
^very swell argument....the market is indeed different...

(btw... do you blog? cuz your posts are very well informative...and long....)

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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #769 on: September 12, 2007, 02:38:41 PM »
you went to the site? niiiiicely done site boy.
http://www.heavenlysword.com/

my shipment commin on the 15th.....daz okay my PS3 isnt here so i in no rush. Wallmart right down the road if i needed it right away anyway.

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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #770 on: September 12, 2007, 03:04:13 PM »


yea... site is amazing...been there lots and lots of times... UK site too :P
(U watched all the anime episodes as well as making of episodes? geat stuff!!!)
      


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I was just on a forum... and to stress how misinformed people are...
Guy buys PS3 for Resident Evil 5.... (which is almost or more than 2yrs off...)
expecting it to release this year...

He buys a memory card, aka memory stick pro duo, for his 60gb ps3... (remnant of ps2 memory card..)


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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #771 on: September 12, 2007, 03:26:52 PM »
Either

1. This fella so stupid and doesnt know about consoles that he should start on a Wii

2. He head get teef by the people in the store.

3. He is just an ignorant idiot who doesnt pay attention, in this case it good for him.

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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #772 on: September 12, 2007, 04:46:26 PM »
or just maybe he have money to waste
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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #773 on: September 12, 2007, 06:03:45 PM »

2. He head get teef by the people in the store.


Got money on that one...

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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #774 on: September 12, 2007, 09:13:01 PM »
Ok it official i getting warhawk tomoro around lunch time, it is in the country just clearing :D ill let u guys know how it is :). In other words ill let u guys know u have to get it :).
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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #775 on: September 12, 2007, 10:18:20 PM »
i could tell you now. You have to get it, talk done.
Boy i hope you get it tomorrow.....you know them in customs.....doubles here, lewee take a siesta, oh gewd waz dat rum? o god is 4 o'clock.....aye lewee go beach tomorrow. :P and your stuff there for a week again :(

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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #776 on: September 12, 2007, 11:44:58 PM »
nah it already cleared it just have to be delivered :)
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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #777 on: September 12, 2007, 11:55:57 PM »
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I be jealous....

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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #778 on: September 13, 2007, 09:53:32 AM »
OK couriers call me they have other drops but it on its way :D.
Got the game having stupid problems with system update sony need to fix PSN before they force u to download updates because this is some serious bulls***
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Re: !EVERYTHING! PS3
« Reply #779 on: September 13, 2007, 01:03:37 PM »
what you mean system update stupid problems?

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