!EVERYTHING! PS3

[Kaizen]

so how much ps3s does it take to screw a lightbulb?

[shivadee]

PS3 go sell....at first. Its a novelty...and America LOVE novelty. Is AFTEr...the YEAR that you hadda wait for the REAL good titles to release we go see. SONY plan on doing a Microsoft...they releasing 2 million consoles for the holidays...and another 4 million by March 2007. That means they could stand up and chain up n00bs head and say "yea we sold OUT all our units for christmas"....and this is Worldwide
Now Microsoft sold half a million+ consoles in the US Alone for christmas.....(some marketing analaysis here..bear with mih) - Now REMEMBER....it have real REAL men at Christmas bawling "360 eh all dat, PS3 way way way better....i go wait...is the same price....i preorder mine...la de da" - so with ALL the peopel holding BACK on sales the 360 STILL sold that much...and that is the US ALONE....

now SONY...SONY sells well in the US, the UK AND in Japan....and only 2 million worldwide....understock......hit their marker...and they happy. Same like Microsoft....understock....hit the marker and they happy. Nuttin wrong with that....they go make the profits they intended....but it also shows SONY playing safe...a good idea too.

[disciple]

with regards to the price drop you predict for christmas,phats . i highly doubt..   as wintry pointed out as well, sony is giving you the console at a significant loss.. 
it took around two years for the ps2 to drop price
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2#Price_history

sony already burn up real cash with the ps3 development and  blu ray development and . i am sure the psp sales are nowhere near what they honestly expected

as you said, is about the games..

for the wii, you literally have developers foaming at the bit to work on the wii ( includin hideo kojima, of mgs4)

i've already seen articles dubbin the xbox + wii combo as the 'wii60' , and i think thas the real flick right there....

people always refer to nintendo as the 'also-ran' for the past two generations of homeconsoles, but they forget about nintendo's dominance of the handheld market.. if even they had that alone, they makin money hand over fist, and shiva is right.. the gamecube's 20 million consoles is nothing to sneeze at..

[greyfox]

kojima said mgs4 is the last game so i kinda feel bad for buying such an expensive console just for the game i want, and to learn this is the real last one he will work on makes me question wut other games will make me be proud and happy to own a ps3.  gta has the same release on all the consoles (aint sure bout Wii).  i don't mind the wii but i really wasn't impressed by it,  i know that may start an uproar but the games just don't appeal to me. 

[ProtoJoe]

IMO....sony will NEVER be able to contest to nintendo in the hand held market...try as they might...its not gonna happen. The PSP is a handy little piece of hardware...but it has nothing on a DS...atleast thats the way i see it...

And I just wanna get a PS3 for its long run of games, I doubt I'll get is as soon as it comes out (however tempted as I might be) but most def before all of the good games start hitting the shelf....I might actually pick one up to see whats the hype about blu-ray movies....espically seeing as I'm supposed to get an HDTV soon....

[pHats]

so u think the ps3 gonna crash for it's launch ?

[ProtoJoe]

no, not at all.....but its not going to blow every one out the water.....there is a difference....

The PS3's lauch sales would be based MOSTLY on serious sony fans....its only later on in its lifespan when the good games start rolling out then it would start to pick up pace and hit like a run away frieght(sp?) train....

[greyfox]

nah it's not going to crash, as long as ppl have money the ps3 will be aight.  i mean most of my gamer friends have already started the big save up for the ps3 and after i heard from a friend at eb that the ps3 might only have as much as 5 in one store at its release i expect it to do pretty good on it's launch sales wise. I'm not to sure about launch titles though since i know mgs4 won't be available untill july(next year) or something like that. (mgs4 is like the only game i care about nowadays)

[W1nTry]

The ONLY game on the PS3 that could get any kinda flinch outta me is not even a real game, its a MUCH speculated, HIGHLY desired REMAKE of FF7 with PS3 level graphics. Imagine that. I am no big fan of MGS and though I absolutely LOVE the GT series, PGR looks FANTASTIC to say the least so I no longer have that lust. Also i'll have to tell you having a HDTV, it will be a NECESSITY to play these next gen consoles cause on 640x480 those games will LOOK HORRIBLE. I rem the first time I fire up the 360 on a standard Res tv and I was like WDF? den I went into the settings, put the Res up to 1080pi on the HD and I was like GG OMFG amazing visuals. I mean you could use a Monitor (read VGA 360 adapter) and play games at 1280x1024 res, but that'll SUCK for multiplayer on the same screen EVEN on a 21" monitor. My point is NOT only do you have to buy the PS3, it's HIGHLY DESIRABLE you buy a HDTV as well... otherwise all dat money, and BLU-RAY and all de other bells and whistles EH GO MEAN $hit. Just something else to keep in mind.

One more thing, like most ppl are saying, we KNOW the PS3 will have a decent launch (as the article about PS fanboys being dumb cattle suggest) its just we're not overhyped and all salivating at the mouth for it.

[shivadee]

i glad some people realise that w1ntry. High Speed internet and HD....otherwise you wasting your money.

[Redlum08]

*MaterChief scratches head trying to figure out how to get an HDTV and move into a new apartment.

[W1nTry]

Here's 1 suggestion, become single and move out LMAO.... jes yanking yuh leg (although that might work) doh let de oman read dis!

[pHats]

i cannot believe alyu htaking phats on, obviously he is a lil youth man who first console was a PS1, best we just ignore him.

boss my first system was an atari and it still working ... just so ya know ... and the reason i back sony so strong is because they are the best ... is my opinion... and yes they not the launch titles but still thas what we have to look forward too what the wii ppl have to look forward to besides zelda and smash ?
and this rounds they comin out badda than ever..

[Kaizen]

were de turn on button is on de atari?

[shivadee]

pHats A gaming veteran for the LEAST should be more knowledgable in their statements, at LEAST have some logic to it besides "They are the best"
"BACKING" SONY? wah you work for them? Is Barcelona playing Real Madrid here? I dont believe you have an ATARI and yes you entitled to your opinion. Unless yuh inherit it or something. Comming on a forum like this and talking the way you do with no kinda reasoning for the PS3's success besides speculated guesses is pointless.

PS3 will do well, but not now. I GUARANTEE the PS3 going to have some issues with games and sales for at LEAST a year. and the question is if SONY could afford that kinda loss and hold out for that year. They loosing profits RIGHT NOW...they will be loosing more with the PS3, its a gutsy effort but the thing is that system lacks inovation on every level whatsoever. This is not the PC market, more power is not always better (PS2 proved this). Another note, SONY has NEVER successfuly done a worldwide release.....EVER. Not with PSOne, PS2, PSP...none of them. They plan to do it with PS3. Production on you precious games for PS3 has been halted until recently MAINLY because the developers knew as much as we did. Nothing about the controler, official system specs or release dates. Only NOW those games releasing. - how i know this? arks them on the forums.....oho.

[TrinireturnofGamez]

i cannot believe alyu htaking phats on, obviously he is a lil youth man who first console was a PS1, best we just ignore him.

boss my first system was an atari and it still working ... just so ya know ... and the reason i back sony so strong is because they are the best ... is my opinion... and yes they not the launch titles but still thas what we have to look forward too what the wii ppl have to look forward to besides zelda and smash ?
and this rounds they comin out badda than ever..

  dread... shiva went e3 and has a job in the gaming industry , respect his opinion ! He lives and breathes games , he know what he talking about..
   PS3 not gonna crash but it not gonna do half as well as the ps2 ... How many people outside the 1st world countries gonna be able to  AFFORD that 600US price tag? With places like Radio shack in T&T with their jacked up prices , we gonna see the ps3 for 6000 TT down here AND MORE ... 
   
Dread you know what you could do with 6000 dollars ? My next pc upgrade to a Conroe dual core , 2 gigs of ram , mobo and geforce 8/ X1800xt gonna cost  LESS Than 6000...  and i'll be able to enjoy games in HD quality on my pc monitor , watch anime and play old PSX and n64 roms.. something no console can do..
   
   Plus the fact that  none of the  PS3 launch titles people will care anything about .  To produce games that take advantage of PS3 technology will take years and millions of dollars , which will reflect in the launch dates ( 2007 for anything good) and pricing of the games...  I bet that the top PS3 titles will cost more than 70 or 80 USD at launch , blu ray discs are expensive to produce plus the dev cost.. And the price of a blue ray burner gonna make piracy pointless ..

[W1nTry]

A man ask what titles other than Zelda and Smash ppl looking forward to on the Wii... dis man crazy? Dread wha bout Metroid? what bout the Mario titles (read platformer not smash), what about the FPS that Crytek (makers of Far Cry and soon to be released better graphics than ANY console Crisis) is SOLELY making for the Wii? what about the 40+ adult film houses that will be making adult interactive (on a scale not yet acheived) content for the Wii (if you're into that kinda thing)? what about the prospect of using a light sabre like if you're in a star wars battle? dread, the possibilities AND the ideas that ARE becoming reality as we speak has the industry foaming at the mouth... not to mention you'll be able to buy a 360 AND a Wii for the price of a PS3? We KNOW the PS3 will do well, but just what makes is superior?

[Jdcrys_Shinkuu]

Like this man crazy dread (phats)

son its like this

When the very 1st console came out Atari was better then card / board games it was best
then the NES (which undoubtedly revolutionized the console world as we know it)
The war that ensued was as follows:
SNES/Sega Genesis (SNES won by a SLIM margin, the only 2 major contenders then were Ninendo and Sega)
Sega Saturn (I bet men FORGET THIS CONSOLE ALTOGETHER)/PS1/N64 (This time period was LONG, in fact the N64 competed against PS2 for some time in this era) The PS1 was the winner here
Sega Dreamcast/PS2/Xbox/Gamecube (I put the Dreamcast first as it was in the ending of the above period and the beginning of this one) The PS2 winner here
and the next rounds will be:
Xbox360/Wii/PS3

As far as possible I have put the contenders in order of appearance (i.e. Xbox360 launched first/then Wii/then PS3, the same holds for all prior as well)

difference is the best console is now decided by compatiability / price ranges / availablity of games amongst other things

The 'win' in each round of console battles was not a design win or a capabilities win, it was a PURE SALE FIGURES WIN keep that in mind. If I had to dissect each round to see which was the superior console from a hardware perpective, the outcome or 'winner' would be quite different.

*nods head at Shiva / W1ntry*

W1ntry: I modified yuh post dread, doh study it, I was just trying to fill the holes dat men was pointing out

[W1nTry]

I modified his response to be more in line of what it should have been, re-read it, the idea behind the post is the same, it's just alot more factual now.

[shivadee]

its how you look at it. Management is all about nothing being wrong and everything being right...its just how present it and how the presentation is justified. Pure sales figures IS the bottom line comapring consoles, bragging rights, consumer info and fanboy bragging rights...but profits is THE bottom line for these companies. If one outsells the other, but there is still a good deal of profit made, you can bet that these companies are going to stick around.