POLL XBOX 360 or PS3.............which would u buy first?????

[ProtoJoe]

This should stop the 360users from getting all panicy about blu-ray tipping the console war...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6142137.html It just goes to show how commited M$ really is But still good to know, atleast 360 users wont be suffering from the outcome of the HD-DVD vs Blu-ray war...

[TinyGrasshopper]

Yeah, I mentioned that awhile back. They've since tucked their tail between their legs about his statement and put out a official statement that they're only supporting hd-dvd

[disciple]

nah well they out to make money; you will always have people who prefer certain formats for various reasons.. ( professional beta gear, vinyl records and film cameras are still available, and will be for some time, though not in any big way )


but don't discount their support for the format...  porn has been a major driving force behind tech.. protojoe's linked article pretty much covers all the major examples -> books, photography, telephone.. hell, the internet murdered porn magazines..lol

anyhow, i doh think the porn industry's choice of a format will influence gamers' choice of a console that much in the long run..( though it will certainly influence the winner in the format war)

it will probably take some time for a clear winner to come out, and by that time, a regular , dedicated player should be affordable..
  with regards to HD DVD an Blu Ray,  in the interim, DVDs will still be produced that can be played on your regular DVD player..

i still think it will take a while for dvds to be phased out( for movies.. games is another story) .. with the exception of a few titles that span multiple discs, dvds are still capable and is not really showing its age (unlike vhs which was prone to buss, and warp, and get moldy after time...  yes. dvds scratch, but so will any disc based medium)

also, we could look at the hi def audio arena..   dvd-audio and sacd have been around for some time.. but have not been adopted by the masses, cuz cds still do just fine for now..

[W1nTry]

Well the thing about all this HD-DVD and BR is that they are for HD content. Fact remains if yuh doh have a HD TV it wouldn't make sense having HD content, cause yuh cyah play it. So its really just a way for them to milk us, ur right. Sure I hear it looks MARVELLOUS at 1080p but hey I still good with divx and rmvb files so HD eh a necessity, eh even a desire yet. Bleh

[TinyGrasshopper]

not to mention the pron folks were big with the e-commerce stuff too. and yeah hd does look incredible. and its not so much that dvd will still be around, but will it be the center of the market as opposed to being just a niche.

[disciple]

hmm
i think dvd technology will still be very relevant for at least another 2 years..   

as wintry said, to really harness the high def experience, you need a high def tv, and while the US govt has mandated a deadline for the networks to broadcast in HDTV, it has not penetrated the entire country as yet.. major metropolitan areas MAY have signals available now, but  the rest of the country may not be so lucky till 2008-2009...   ( i am still amazed by the quality of naruto, considering that's a broadcast signal.. but japan , i think, had converted to hi def long time now)

a 1080p tv at circuit city is upwards of 1200US, and in some cases near 3000US..
coupled with the fact that the betamax-vhs wars left a bad taste in people's mouths.. no consumer wants to be on the losing side, after investing some serious cash into a player, and movies.. ( we could also look at laserdisc.. another format that came, saw, and was largely ignored)

look at how long it took for something as simple as a rewritable dvd format to settle down?   

[ProtoJoe]

But remember that blu-ray ISNT just HD alone, there is also streaming content and its also supposed that you can download stuff relevent to the movie (which btw...makes no sense, they could just put it on the disk right away, but i suppose its stuff like unreleased content or whatnot) While HD-DVD is basically what the name says, its dvd, but with HD content.

Personally I wont go out buying up HD TV's just yet, I plan to later on, but since the ps3 could run on SD tvs, there isnt a NEED to just yet...plus it too dam expensive right now..

[disciple]

i doh think streaming content is a big edge...... any content u want right now, u can get from the net..

i sure man go make a torrent client for the console( once the OS hacked) and blam! there goes the advantage..  nobody on the MPAA/RIAA, anyhow

[ProtoJoe]

That is true, but out of all the ppl who use this technology, not ALL of them are able to use hacks, or even use it at all! If they are smart enough to use hacks, then they would choose the better technology in the end (atleast thats what i think)

[disciple]

That is true, but out of all the ppl who use this technology, not ALL of them are able to use hacks

a very fair point, i must concede.. and then there are those who doh wanna void their warranty , or just want to stay with the console's OS..

If they are smart enough to use hacks, then they would choose the better technology in the end]If they are smart enough to use hacks, then they would choose the better technology in the end

not necessarily..  a lot of tech savvy people are early adopters...( well, those with jobs at least ).. they may get the tootsy end of the stick , just as much as Joe Blow-User

in the earlies, beta offered a cleaner picture than vhs, but vhs was cheaper to produce (hence a cheaper player) and offered longer play
 
sigh.. time will tell yes..

[shivadee]

In a sense. Buy 2 of the same consoles. Like hell you getting on LIVE now with a modded anything.......softmods work, but LIVE updates its server every week now. We are seeing less and less moders on LIVE


On thing i notce Balmer point out about the PS3 and both are true

1. We havent seen the system in action yet and nothing is cast in stone as yet either.

2. SONY has not announced any online management whatsoever, appart from the fact that it is simply going online.


and all this Blu Ray talk is great........in about 2 years from now. How much you willing to pay for a Blu Ray......ANYTHING now? Kinda expensive eh? And what about the technology to support that feature?

[disciple]

dred, i go fine it real hard to buy two different consoles this early, far less two of the same..

that said, i agree with what you are sayin.. we havent seen hide nor hair of the ps3.. and from what i read day before, we may have to wait even longer, cuz it may be delayed further than spring 2006

http://www.betanews.com/article/Spring_2006_PS3_Release_in_Doubt/1137536470



i don't think the media choice will play as much of a crucial role this time around , as when the PS2 and XBOX launched ( with DVD support).. i rem lots of people held off on the dreamcast cuz of its non-support ..

[Redlum08]

Well right now I sweating my Xbox 360...

Halo 2 looks so much better with higher resolution.... 

[disciple]

the Xbox 360 and PS3 are same-generation machines. One doesn't have additional effects over the other - 360 can do the same effects, just not as many of them simultaneously and with less geometry [because of the speed difference], but memory bottlenecks can kill part of the PS3 speed advantage anyway... the overall visual difference it makes will depend a lot on the developer's skill, and how much time and money the publisher spends on a game. So Sony's console won't have extra tricks up its sleeve it will just be able to do more of them at the same time.

Whatever changes are made to the hardware however, we are told that Sony will not be able to meet its initial target of 1080p Full HD that it had originally set and will instead deliver 720p and will upscale it or allow the new TVs to do so. This, apparently, will save CPU cycles and will save gamers from the dreaded loss of frame rate.

http://megagames.com/news/html/console/playstation3secretsrevealed.shtml

[SABREWOLF3001]

I'll actually get the both systems because they both have great titles that i just must have.

[greyfox]

i'm just getting the ps3 for one reason and one only, Metal Gear Solid 4, i've been a fan of the series for a long time.  if it was gonna be released for the 360 then i would have picked it up for that console. but things aint like that..................

[ZUSE]

Well xbox never appeal to me jed, i was always ah playstation fella so for me that question was more like "Which would you buy....only!" LOL plus ps3 will blow xbox 360 out of the game jed, jah just read the specs of the thing, is not an console it's a beast...a work of art that may only be appriciated by true ps fans *emotional* when i get one my pc is gona feel so felt out *Rubs monitor*

[Redlum08]

Wel it looks like PS3 will not be coming anytime soon.......

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/41430f3e-a2fa-11da-ba72-0000779e2340.html

Xbox 360 will have to do for now me thinks 

[disciple]

"Our updated analysis indicates that the initial bill of [production] materials for PS3 could approach $900," read the report. The report said that the production cost of a single Cell processor will be $230 at launch, with the Blu-ray drive setting Sony back $350 per unit. However, the $900 price tag presumably includes a $100 optional hard drive, as a breakdown of component costs in the report totals just $795.

now, while it is an expected norm that the console initially is a loss maker for the manufacturer ( this pans out later in the life cycle, when volume discounts due to demand, and the decreasing cost of individual components over the years)   ,
and that profits come from games and third party licensing ( and who have more 3rd party support than sony these days?)

but $900?? ....jah! 

"We wrote last November that Sony's design choices for the PS3 had resulted in an expensive and difficult-to-manufacture product," read the report, "and we think that we're seeing the consequences of those choices play out now. In particular, we think the problem points are the Sony Cell processor and the Blu-ray drive." Merrill Lynch also cited heat-generation issues with PS3 hardware and the far-from-finished state of most games for the platform as factors.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6144600.html

[W1nTry]

Another reason to get a 360:

XBox 360's weedy hard-drive gets PC boost

While Vole gets new headache


By Nick Farrell: Wednesday 12 April 2006, 14:35

 THE XBOX 360'S tiny hard drive which causes much mirth at games conventions can now be boosted by a cheapish gadget that connects the console to your PC.
The 360 only comes with a 20GB drive which, when stuffed with all the gubbins needed to run it ends up at around 12GB of free space.

Step up XSATA, which is made by Datel. This gadget sits between your 360 and the hard-drive of your PC. Linked by a USB, it can be controlled by an Xbox file manager software.

As the people over at T3 pointed out, not only does this mean that you get more disk space, you can also email any of your Xbox content to your mates. Thus a new pirating machine to give the FAST and the RIAA bad dreams is born.

It should hit the shops soon and will set you back £30.