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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2005, 12:47:02 AM »
didnt superman and thor face off?



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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2005, 11:15:12 AM »
First off
Let me dispell this newbie idea that Thor is a god.

He is not.
He is a "godling"

Read some comics and yu'll find out yourself.

The highest tier beings in the marvel universe.
The watcher and the eternals put thor and the rest of his norse ilk in their place.
They are NOT gods, but godlings.
THey are no higher than the mutants so talk done there.

If you want more information.
Read uncanny xmen, after the onslaught saga.

When Franklin Richards,(reed richards son) created an alternate universe and drew in some of the most powerful of marvel universe.
Including thor.
THor was beatin his chest and making it known that he is  a god and should not be treated as these common mutants, while speaking to one of the eternals.

Who promptly turned him into a frog and told im to be quiet, you little norse godling.

She actually holds franklin in higher esteem than THor.(FRANKLIN IS MORE POWERFULL THAN THOR!!!!)

Any ways
Thor and superman did fight during the amalgam story arc between dc and marvel.

But unfortunately, before the fight really got on the way and anything got serious.
They got merged together....

Can you imagine that??? THOR +SUPERMAN IN ONE HERO!! MY WORD!!
lol

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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2005, 12:28:16 PM »
Cracixx you know ah bit toooooo much abotu this superman thing ah see what kaizen mean when he say ah hope crixx not readin this thread hmmmmmmmmmm

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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2005, 03:37:26 PM »
i eh mean it like that my boy i mean that he is the uber comic knowledge ..
^_^ didnt wa a man to get schooled to the 3rd degree thas all

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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2005, 05:46:43 PM »
THey are no higher than the mutants so talk done there.


With all due respect to the Uber comic guru, in a nutshel I dont think so. A Godling while not a God is still superior to a human, imo a mutant is simply a human slightly ahead on the evolutionary charts . They are bascially human beigns, homo superior. there is a school of thought that eventually in time all humans  should evolve into mutants, natural selection just needs time. A Godling  genitically (for want of a better term) is not "Human"

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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2005, 06:07:34 PM »
Well interesting point

If it had any factual basis it would be at least.

Since i was speaking of Thor and the rest of the norse godlings in the marvel universe.

Where they are no better than mutants.
Better than humans, but not mutants.

Franklin for one, has so far transcended the power of all the norse godlings, that his power nears the limit of the eternals.

Thats power to create and destroy universes.
Thor and the rest of his ilk do not have any where near that power.

For one, Odin was killed and thor then assumed all his power.
No biggy, he still not a GOD.

Lol, i understand your weak point, but it has no bearing on the situation.

If yu think franklin is just the evolution of a human, you real real need to start readin some back issues son.

When last was a god turned into a frog?
Understand that she couldnt even do that to franklin if she wanted to.
Hes that powerful.

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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2005, 07:02:47 PM »
You didnt get the full gist of my point.

If thor enters the fray you cant limit the discussion to the marvel universe. Norse mythology  my friend , you have to do a balanced combination of mythology and comicdom. if it was just ancient myth we were talking about a simple titan might kick super's a$$.  a real titan mind you not a marvel titan. the actual thor imo if he were to fight the present DC superman would win, and he might not even need to resort to **magic** bolts of lightening from his hammer

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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2005, 07:08:59 PM »
although i will admit that the marvel mutant richards if he was interjected into actual norse myth would prolly be considered a god by the the gods who would think he was the incarnation of a former elder god or maybe the incarnation of a beign that predated them. other mutants though would be treated with the same disdain by odin that thor got in the comic if they presumed to claim greatness..

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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2005, 08:08:54 PM »
i love kfc does anyone else love kfc?   ^_^
umm anywhooooooooo the topic is aboout beating superman O_o
soooooooo ummmmmmm
THOR...is not a good sense ..^_^
and uhhh.....QZA get UNLIMITED ACCESS pretty decent comic ..and check that out
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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2005, 11:07:46 PM »
Way boy ah just make ah statement, is really amazing that ppl have sooo many different opinions, well here dis Superman vs The Midnight Robber!!! and yes he is a really valid comic character, ah would like to see how dis one would turn out!!
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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2005, 10:05:23 AM »
Stueps ...he not valid to that extent and thas teh comic Riley make?? local



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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2005, 10:09:25 AM »
Yeah is his own, so why superman cyah fight ah jumbie, supes will get too scared to fight, BOO!!
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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2005, 10:19:47 AM »
well nah me eh know what to say on that i only bought the first issue of midnight robber direct from rile 2 or 3 years back.
To me all this super hero philosophy man superman CAN be defeated and thats that /.>_> so this argument dragged on to thor yadda yadda ..i cant ad much since superman aint my strong point but i think he is ultomate



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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2006, 03:21:05 PM »
EEYYY AH HAVE IT, SUPERMAN VS SUPERMAN!!!! AH MEAN AN EXACT REPLICA EVEN DOWN to his Kryptonian fighting spirit who will win? ah know Captain Marvel get a arsewhooping from him power of shazam my arse!!!!
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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2006, 05:53:05 PM »
I real love superman.....my favorite superhero


the man could just pwn base.

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/comics.php?topic=comics-superman


Vital Statistics
Name:    Clark Joseph Kent [Earth Name]
Kal-El [Kryptonian Name]
Age:    37 (see below)
Height:    6 feet, 3 inches
Weight:    225 pounds
Eyes:    Blue
Hair:    Black
Occupation:    Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter, columnist and Foreign Correspondent for the Daily Planet newspaper; adventurer as the superhero Superman, writer of four novels
Known Relatives:    Jor-El [Kryptonian father, deceased]
Lara [Kryptonian mother, deceased]
Jonathan Kent [adoptive father]
Martha Kent [adoptive mother]
Lois Lane [wife]
Marital Status:    Married to Lois Lane
Group Affiliation:    Justice League America
Base of Operations:    The city of Metropolis, U.S.A.
Current Address:    1938 Sullivan Place, Metropolis
[Clark's Previous Address: Apartment 3-D, 344 Clinton Street, Metropolis]
[Lois' Previous Address: 55 Broome Street, Metropolis]
Birthday:    Traditionally February 29.
In Action Comics #655 (July 1990) a Smallville newspaper clipping shows Jonathan and Martha Kent had a child "on or about February 28th".
First Comic Book Appearance:    Action Comics #1 (June 1938), The Man of Steel #1 [Post-"Crisis"/Modern series] (July 1986)

Superman created by Jerry Siegel (writer) and Joe Shuster (artist).


Origin
Conceived on the doomed planet Krypton, scientist Jor-El had his unborn son Kal-El, still within his birthing matrix, placed on a hyperlight drive rocket. Then with his wife Lara, Jor-El watched the ship's launch as a simmering nuclear chain reaction tore the planet apart. Jor-El targeted his son's rocket to reach the planet Earth through hyperspace, where Jor-El hoped his son would find a good life.

The tiny rocket was found by a Kansas farming couple, Jonathan and Martha Kent. They found the infant within the rocket and, being childless, Martha persuaded Jonathan that they should adopt him. Named Clark Kent, the child grew up in Smallville, Kansas never knowing how his parents found him.

The Kents began realizing Clark's special abilities at age 8 when he was unhurt after being trampled by a bull. Clark demonstrated more abilities as he grew, even being able to fly at age 17.

The following year, after using his abilities to excel in a football game, Jonathan Kent revealed the remains of the rocket and how his adoptive parents had found him. Clark now understood his special powers came with responsibilities.

That night, Clark revealed his secret to his closest friend, Lana Lang. He also told her he would be leaving Smallville the following day. Thus at age 18, Clark Kent began to travel around the world to learn about his powers, become better educated, and secretly help people. Places he went to include India, the High Sierras, China, Bangkok, and Sudan.

After about four years Clark enrolled in the University of Metropolis and majored in journalism. Seven years after leaving Smallville, Clark witnessed an experimental NASA space plane about to crash. He saved the plane and there first met Daily Planet reporter Lois Lane. It was Lois' newspaper account of the rescue that gave Clark the superhero name of Superman.

Although Clark managed to hide his identity during that incident, he realized he must adopt a superhero identity if he was to continue a public career of superheroics. With his parents' help Clark developed a superhero costume with a distinctive chest emblem. He also practiced mannerisms and began wearing glasses to distinguish Clark Kent's appearance from that of Superman.

Returning to Metropolis, Clark began his superhero career as Superman, and his journalism career at the Daily Planet by getting the first exclusive interview with Superman.

Superman's appearance began a new age of heroes, with other heroes like Batman (Bruce Wayne) in Gotham, Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) in Coast City, and Flash (Barry Allen) in Central City appearing.

At age 28, Clark learned about his Kryptonian heritage from an electro-psionic recording created by Jor-El and stored in Clark's birthing matrix (i.e. rocketship). Learning of Krypton's fate, Clark was further determined to protect his adopted home planet, Earth.


Superman's Powers
Clark Kent's Kryptonian body acts as a solar battery absorbing solar energy which can then be used as various remarkable powers. If Earth had a red sun like Krypton's, Clark would not have these powers. Using his powers causes Clark to use up his stored yellow sun energy. He can lose his powers if he expends a lot of energy quickly (e.g. during his battle with the monster Doomsday) or if he spends too much time away from a yellow sun while in outer space. When low on solar energy, Clark can 'recharge' if exposed to a source of yellow sun energy. The rate at which he 'recharges' can vary. When he has absorbed excess solar energy, his power levels have been above normal until the excess power is burned up.

Superman's superpowers include:

    * Strength - although varying depending on his energy levels, Clark is among the strongest superheroes on Earth, capable of lifting a plane.

    * Flight - able to defy gravity, possibly through sheer force of will.

    * Invulnerability - years of exposure to yellow solar energy have caused Clark's Kryptonian body to become almost indestructible. His natural bio-electric aura also has limited force field properties protecting items near his skin e.g. his costume. His cape is not protected by his aura.

      Clark can survive in outer space as long as he has a breathing apparatus, and doesn't lose too much solar energy. Without an air supply, Superman can last between an hour and ninety minutes in space, after taking a deep breath. Using his powers of flight and super-speed Clark can travel inter-planetary distances by himself. Interstellar distances require assistance e.g. a spaceship, teleportation belt.

    * Super-speed - capable of superhuman speed, Clark can fly from Metropolis to have dinner with Lois Lane in Paris, France, or in a few minutes fly to the Moon.

    * Super-breath - Clark's invulnerability and strength exist internally too, affecting his skeleton and internal organs. After inhaling deeply he can expel the air in a gale-force wind.

    * Super-hearing - Capable of blocking out and discerning a single known voice within a city.

    * Vision - Clark can detect electromagnetic energy in more than the normal visible spectrum:
          o X-Ray vision - lead appears opaque
          o IR vision
          o Microscopic
          o Telescopic
    * Heat Vision - additionally, Clark can release solar energy in the form of Heat Vision as a weapon.

Besides the using up of his solar energy, Clark has two other weaknesses:

    * Magic

    * Kryptonite
      Created by internal pressures that caused Krypton's explosion, kryptonite is the ore form of kryptonium. It looks like a green glowing rock. It is very hazardous to Superman. If exposed to kryptonite, Clark will experience pain and rapidly lose his powers. If exposed for much more than an hour he would die. If suffering kryptonite poisoning, Clark can recover if he gets away from the kryptonite.

      When Clark's birthing matrix left Krypton, a fragment of kryptonite became embedded in the tail section. Villain Lex Luthor obtained this fragment and used part of it for a ringstone, to protect himself from Superman. After being exposed to it for a year, Luthor found the radiation destroyed his hand, and was killing his body through cancer, necessitating he obtain a prosthetic hand, and later a new cloned body.

      Note: Another villain, Mr. Mxyzptlk, a Fifth Dimensional being who can use super-science that resembles 'magic' once created red kryptonite to temporarily remove Clark's powers. Without Mr. Mxyzptlk's powers, though, this 'red kryptonite' would be harmless to anyone, and is in no way connected to genuine green kryptonite. When Superman captured three criminals in a "pocket universe" he used gold kryptonite from that universe. Batman also created his own variant of red kryptonite which rendered Kryptonian skin transparent and caused Superman to overload with yellow sun radiation.
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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2006, 05:53:34 PM »
supers vs shazam was a good fight in the comic, supers won thanks to kick ass genetics and just experience but shazam was damn good.

I remember seeing shazam use his transformation as a weapon against someone, that was a freakin brilliant idea.

He held the person above him, and shouted shazam multiple times, frying the person but stopping himself from transforming back into the boy.

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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2006, 06:02:52 PM »
ent that was in the one that Alex Ross draw where they was in the future or sum? Batman in crutches but still whoopin @ss an ting. Wonder Woman eh really age much....and end up hooking up with Superman an ting.....and she was pregnant...imagine that chile nah!!!!!!

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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2006, 06:05:43 PM »
I remember seeing shazam use his transformation as a weapon against someone, that was a freakin brilliant idea.

He held the person above him, and shouted shazam multiple times, frying the person but stopping himself from transforming back into the boy.

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but superman went through reall plenty phases, ah guess dat is Kryptonian Puberty LOL
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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2006, 06:11:23 PM »
that child would be just too ridiculous!
he may gain magic immunity thanks to moms, and therfore would only have kryptonite and extremely high powered lasers as his weakness.

Amazing.


Anyways.

The article you posted shiv mentioned that supes couldnt see infra and spectra radiation before his energy form.

That is incorrect. Dont know how they made a mistake like that.

When doomsday came back to earth, superman grabbed him and tossed him into space.
Fixed a building that doomsday damaged and then flew into space to look for him.

Couldnt find him in space , so he switched on infra sight and looked for his infra trail that would show up while moving through the atmosphere.

This allowed him to track doomsdays flight back to earth and proceed to omg wtf own him.
Then wave rider come an jumbee de scene and flash fry doomsday, yada yada.

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Re: Beating Superman
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2006, 06:17:12 PM »
EYY boyyy criiixxxx dat is truee i ermember that very well, so true, was that on jsutice league as well? Or was it something else? I think it was Justice league!!!
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