Marvel VS Capcom 2......

[New Era Outlaw]

LOL
 NEW ERA AS AH MOD

Me? As a mod?
....nah.

It's just that bAnDiT's been posting that 'O and btw I'm back' comment after EVERY post he makes, and it's beginning to irritate a lot of people on the Board. Also, he really -is- spamming up a storm these days, so I'm letting him know he should -really- cut it out.

bAnDiT, try to ease it with the 'O and btw I'm back' comments, all right?
You wouldn't want people to think you've got an insecurity complex, do you?  

Anyway, let's get back on topic here.
I consider Doom to be on the advanced level when it comes to the difficulty of mastering him and his moves, but not really much of a top-tier character. He doesn't really function well as a stand alone character.

Sure, he could use his Photon Shot and Doom blasts to keep an opponent at bay for a while, but what if he's up against a speedy opponent like Wolverine or Strider? Quite frankly, he'd be toast. He, like the majority of us, works better in a team.

And, on a completely different note....
Mmmm.....TOAST.....                    

[MeGaMan]

what i think is that playing the origianl game on easy mode is what really pissed u off about button mashers. not only are the moves AND combos easier but the supers so i could see the hatred towards them. this game is even better than the first one and no one can abso lutely say that they are tired of the game with so many characters to choose and master it is a really good game. i think if any one wants a challenge ask a dragon called ARCAINE                    

[New Era Outlaw]

Err....okay.
I'll be sure to remember that the next time I encounter a dragon.                    

[AngryBastard]

i think if any one wants a challenge ask a dragon called ARCAINE

isn't that a pokemon......
omg, i actually knew dat was a pokemon's name...
somebody kill me

another disappointment in this game to me was in mVc 1 , chun li had this really cool kick super where a big japanese symbol would appear on the screen and she wud move in slow motion that was cool
But sadly MvC2 doh have it :-(                    

[New Era Outlaw]

Nope. She doesn't.
Can't really explain why Capcom took it out, either. It wasn't such an advantageous move to warrant being cropped, heck, it was probably the coolest move in her whole arsenal.

Also, I'd like to point out that Marvel vs. Capcom was probably Chun-Li's FINAL appearance as a CREDIBLE fighter to choose, in ANY game.
Her appearance in Capcom vs. SNK2 still gives me nightmares.                    

[ShinSagat]

horse can someone tell me how to use her in 3rd strike she is serious crap. Oh i liked mvc2 cuz of...wait i didnt like it lol. Zangeif and guile get seriously useless and beams flyin and all kinda ting. Sweet combos though not that i could do them                    

[nytemare]

maybe you should consider putting down your controller if you say Chun-Li is garbage in third strike. And another. I have no idea what game you're watching but maybe you should look again. Zangief was, is, and always would be one of the best characters in any street fighter game. Every character in Marvel vs. Capcom has thier advantages as well as their disadvantages.                    

[rb2k2]

you cant be serious saying she is crap in 3rd strike , she may be a bit bland as a character but not crap. I'm sure i could more than own you with her                    

[New Era Outlaw]

To tell you the truth, Chun-Li's reputation as a credible fighter got shot after Marvel vs. Capcom. That's not to say that there aren't people who are remotely capable of mastering her in the later games, it's just that Chun-Li has lost some of her edge as a top-tier fighter.

In MvC 1, she had a TON of combos.
You could Aerial Rave and keep stomping on your opponent's head from now till kingdom come, or top it off with her Final Kick super. Plus, by simply hitting your opponent with her crouching Fierce, you could easily set up an unwary opponent for a Super Lightning Kick MASSACRE.
In MvC 2?
Nothing, zip, and a whole lotta NADA.
You're stuck with generic vanilla Aerial raves, with NO Ultimate Kick Super, faster recovery by your opponent from Chun-Li's moves, and the extra ability to Triple jump, which is Chun-Li's only remaining advantage.

...and don't get me started on CvS2.
She only has FIVE freaking moves to her name, and NONE of them are particularly advantageous to use in battle. I mean, God damn. THEY TOOK OUT HER RISING TORNADO KICK! Now what does she have to stave off jumping characters?
On top of that, her moves are UBER clumsy and hard to pull off successfully, compared to how she used to be. Yeek.

I seriously thought that she would've been a blast and a breeze to play on Third Strike, but I was wrong. Her moves have gotten complex compared to the good old days. In particular, her jumping Fierce Kick cannot connect as well, if at ALL, as in earlier titles like Street Fighter Alpha and Marvel vs. Capcom. You now have to time it so it actually hits. Not that you won't, don't get me wrong, but it's blatantly obvious that you've got to watch and see when she swings her leg as she jumps.
On top of that, I can no longer see her undies when she gets K.O.ed.

Long story short, Chun-Li ain't what she used to be.
People consider her as more of a pretty face than a decent fighter nowadays.
Hang around a Third Strike machine and hear random comments when Chun-Li shows up. You'd be surprised at what you hear.

With regards to Zangief, I have seen people use him, and to deadly effect as well.
But him as a top-tier fighter? Nope.
Zangief's biggest drawback in the MvC genre is the fact that he's a pro-wrestler in a cast of ninjas, super powered robots, and mutants with adamantium claws. Put him up against a character that can play keep away or is fast enough, and he'll catch utter nen-nen. However, that's not to say that some people can't get around this, I've seen some pretty awesome Zangief players before. But, mind you, top-tier characters in that unbalanced game would be characters like Guile, Magneto and Psylocke.
Zangief falls short of that, unfortunately.                    

[rb2k2]

Well as far as MVC2 goes no street fighter characters have any sort of priority as far as tiers go. The top 4 are Cable, Sentinel, Storm and the king himself Magneto. Guile is a good player but thats just my opinion because I have become a fan of him. The only thing about Psylocke that makes her top tier is her anti air assist. A top Magneto + Psylocke Anti Air Assist will pretty much demolish any team in a matter of seconds. I have a couple of tourney vids that show how those guys in the US conduct it. As soon as I find the link i'll post it.                    

[rb2k2]

Right I found the thread with the videos , these are casual vids from EVO2k4 , mainly top tier characters in use with the few exceptions.

These can be found at

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http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69439&page=1&pp=15

also from MWC2004

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http://home.coqui.net/evilaro/gamecombos/MWC2004/

be sure to check out the justin wong vs josh wigfall matches, wong totally owned his ass.                    

[Frozen]

wait nah i now seeing this thread...i does play this game but i never play against yall ppl...
i fine a real cheap person is collosas........real cheap if u know how to play with him
the little robot bad..although he moves very weak..his supers,no
Ey and did u know if u have akuma as an assist hero u can start a super then switch to a demon after???
Also zangief as a throw assist real good too..                    

[QDizzle]

first of all leh mih call FROZEN AH NOOOOB ACORDING TO KILLA WEAK SPERM
lol @ crappy tactics anyways

what i think is that playing the origianl game on easy mode is what really pissed u off about button mashers. not only are the moves AND combos easier but the supers so i could see the hatred towards them. this game is even better than the first one and no one can abso lutely say that they are tired of the game with so many characters to choose and master it is a really good game. i think if any one wants a challenge ask a dragon called ARCAINE

hoss we talking bout mvc2 there is no such thing as easy mode even if there was the game go be real shit reason fuh dat u hav to press medium punch twice to get hard punch so jus imagine wha u go geh when u press medium punch ounce in easy mode in mvc2                    

[Frozen]

so? ur point? does that affect me? no                    

[AngryBastard]

i want to know was allyuh ppl favoutrite character?, or whose the person allyuh does play the best with..?
My alltime favourite is gambit, and i especially like the fact that he din change in MvC2, he's the same as in Mvc 1.
i also realised something, the name's of some super's have been changed...
for example in marvel VS capcom gambit's super was "royal flush," if i nut mistaken but in MvC2, when u open the command list u see his super is "royal flash."
I think the people made a typo.....
anybody else notice this??                    

[New Era Outlaw]

i want to know was allyuh ppl favoutrite character?, or whose the person allyuh does play the best with..?
My alltime favourite is gambit, and i especially like the fact that he din change in MvC2, he's the same as in Mvc 1.
i also realised something, the name's of some super's have been changed...
for example in marvel VS capcom gambit's super was \"royal flush,\" if i nut mistaken but in MvC2, when u open the command list u see his super is \"royal flash.\"
I think the people made a typo.....
anybody else notice this??

For one, I'm not really the type of guy to use a command list, especially not for a game that I've been playing for nearly eight years. But, no, I haven't noticed that. Very keen eye, AngryBastard. I suppose when they were translating it from Japanese, some typo occurred and Gambit's super combo was mistyped as 'Royal Flash' and not 'Royal Flush'. Darn those wacky Japanese kola nuts, and their funny pronounciation of the English language.

As for my favorite characters.....come ON.
Did you really need to ask that?  
Although, I've been playing with characters like Wolverine and Omega Red, you know, just to vary myself a bit from the usual line-up of the Blue Bomber Squad.
Megaman, Roll, Tron Bonne and Servbot, GENIOUS.
 

first of all leh mih call FROZEN AH NOOOOB ACORDING TO KILLA WEAK SPERM  
lol @ crappy tactics anyways

Knock it off, Q.
Weren't all of us 'newbs' at some point in time?
I'm sure that with enough practice and experience, Frozen could become a boss in the game. Just give him time.

...just make sure this tongue lashing is kept to a minimum, though.
The last thing we need is a flame war.
And I'm kind of...allergic to fire. *sneeze*                    

[QDizzle]

hoss even when i was ah noob i never used such stupid strategies come on u would not want to waste a coin on dieing like ah imps u would first watch d hot man and create a strat based on what he doin                    

[New Era Outlaw]

I guess, but isn't perseverance the essence of victory sometimes?                    

[QDizzle]

NAH NOT WHEN YUH HADDA PAY 1 DOLLOR FUH AH COIN
den teifing ppl strat to win means saving money savin money means stayin in d game longer staying longer means better sweat better sweat mean yuh play till yuh jus geh fed up and gih sumbody d game fuh 75 cents which all in all means u jus spend 25 cents fuh ah game come nah neo u never do dah                    

[New Era Outlaw]

How do you think I got to being the way I am today?
Way back when I was a newb struggling with this game, I used to spend serious coinage, and go up against impossible odds. Sure, I got my rear end handed to me every single game, but I still never gave up. And soon, I learned of everything the game had to offer...moves, strategies, the works, and then, I became the one who sent people running for coins.

Funny how ironic that sounds, huh?