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RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
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May 24, 2004, 05:36:34 PM »
Dread this is a Preview, not a review...
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From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
Bellamy, Nigel
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 5:51 PM
To: 'gatt@gatt.co.tt'
Subject: {GATT} Soldner Review
An excellent review of soldner.
I found the bit about certain innovations surprising. C&C Renegade has
nailed these but it's almost as though no one cares.
Vehicular availability for instance, based on individual money rather than
camping by spawn points. Also, buying weapons under cover, rather than in
the open at a terminal watched over by snipers. Nonetheless, it's a good
read.
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=17858
A snippet
I am a simple person. I like my meat rare, my potatoes baked, and my
first-person shooters lag-free. I found my Soldner experience to be like
ordering steak at chain restaurant; sometimes the meat was done right - not
too rare, not too cooked. Other times they burnt the order. In other words,
when the game worked great, it was a fantastic experience; when it didn't,
it was an exercise in frustration.
Soldner has gone through three Beta releases for its multiplayer component,
if you count the patches. The first public beta was as close to a fiasco as
a beta can be. The master browser for the servers was in the dev's offices
and they didn't anticipate the demand, leading the server list not
populating properly. To add to the woes, connecting to the servers was a
challenge, and if you were able to get connected, staying connected and
having decent latency was almost impossible.
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RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
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RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
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Reply #1 on:
May 24, 2004, 06:26:08 PM »
a preview of the final game but a review of the current builds.
jah, what a nit pick
Kayode James wrote:
>Dread this is a Preview, not a review...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
>Bellamy, Nigel
>Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 5:51 PM
>To: 'gatt@gatt.co.tt'
>Subject: {GATT} Soldner Review
>
>
>An excellent review of soldner.
>
>I found the bit about certain innovations surprising. C&C Renegade has
>nailed these but it's almost as though no one cares.
>
>Vehicular availability for instance, based on individual money rather than
>camping by spawn points. Also, buying weapons under cover, rather than in
>the open at a terminal watched over by snipers. Nonetheless, it's a good
>read.
>
>
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=17858
>
>A snippet
>
>I am a simple person. I like my meat rare, my potatoes baked, and my
>first-person shooters lag-free. I found my Soldner experience to be like
>ordering steak at chain restaurant; sometimes the meat was done right - not
>too rare, not too cooked. Other times they burnt the order. In other words,
>when the game worked great, it was a fantastic experience; when it didn't,
>it was an exercise in frustration.
>Soldner has gone through three Beta releases for its multiplayer component,
>if you count the patches. The first public beta was as close to a fiasco as
>a beta can be. The master browser for the servers was in the dev's offices
>and they didn't anticipate the demand, leading the server list not
>populating properly. To add to the woes, connecting to the servers was a
>challenge, and if you were able to get connected, staying connected and
>having decent latency was almost impossible.
>
>______________________________________________________________________
>BG Energy Holdings Limited (a member of BG Group)
>Registered in England No: 3763515
>Registered Address:
> 100 Thames Valley Park Drive
> Reading
> Berkshire RG6 1PT UK
>Telephone: +44 (0) 118 935 3222
>Website:
http://www.BG-Group.com
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RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
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Reply #2 on:
May 24, 2004, 06:28:05 PM »
lol @ install
ent, pressure with that.
The bit about the commander was pretty slick. Like the commander in savage.
Same way he can distribute the team funds amongst players and light up
an enemy target for the troops to see.
A little too similar, these guys had to have played Savage, not that I'm
complaining. Better to improve the wheel than reinvent it most time.
Adrian wrote:
>lol
>i wanted to know oui
>
>would be suprised if it get over a 3/10. heck would be suprised if the game
>even start up so they can review it. hell i would be more suprised if the
>game even mc install.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kayode James" <spider-guy@tstt.net.tt>
>To: <gatt@gatt.co.tt>
>Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 6:42 PM
>Subject: RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
>
>
>
>
>>Dread this is a Preview, not a review...
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
>>Bellamy, Nigel
>>Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 5:51 PM
>>To: 'gatt@gatt.co.tt'
>>Subject: {GATT} Soldner Review
>>
>>
>>An excellent review of soldner.
>>
>>I found the bit about certain innovations surprising. C&C Renegade has
>>nailed these but it's almost as though no one cares.
>>
>>Vehicular availability for instance, based on individual money rather than
>>camping by spawn points. Also, buying weapons under cover, rather than in
>>the open at a terminal watched over by snipers. Nonetheless, it's a good
>>read.
>>
>>
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=17858
>>
>>A snippet
>>
>>I am a simple person. I like my meat rare, my potatoes baked, and my
>>first-person shooters lag-free. I found my Soldner experience to be like
>>ordering steak at chain restaurant; sometimes the meat was done right -
>>
>>
>not
>
>
>>too rare, not too cooked. Other times they burnt the order. In other
>>
>>
>words,
>
>
>>when the game worked great, it was a fantastic experience; when it didn't,
>>it was an exercise in frustration.
>>Soldner has gone through three Beta releases for its multiplayer
>>
>>
>component,
>
>
>>if you count the patches. The first public beta was as close to a fiasco
>>
>>
>as
>
>
>>a beta can be. The master browser for the servers was in the dev's offices
>>and they didn't anticipate the demand, leading the server list not
>>populating properly. To add to the woes, connecting to the servers was a
>>challenge, and if you were able to get connected, staying connected and
>>having decent latency was almost impossible.
>>
>>______________________________________________________________________
>>BG Energy Holdings Limited (a member of BG Group)
>>Registered in England No: 3763515
>>Registered Address:
>>100 Thames Valley Park Drive
>>Reading
>>Berkshire RG6 1PT UK
>>Telephone: +44 (0) 118 935 3222
>>Website:
http://www.BG-Group.com
>>
>>This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this
>>e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information, please
>>advise us immediately if you are not the named addressee or the person
>>responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee. The
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RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
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Reply #3 on:
May 24, 2004, 06:58:02 PM »
The 200 meg file I d/loaded to install that game can't delete off my HD.
-----Original Message-----
From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
Adrian
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 7:12 PM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
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lol
i wanted to know oui
would be suprised if it get over a 3/10. heck would be suprised if the game
even start up so they can review it. hell i would be more suprised if the
game even mc install.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kayode James" <spider-guy@tstt.net.tt>
To: <gatt@gatt.co.tt>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
> Dread this is a Preview, not a review...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
> Bellamy, Nigel
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 5:51 PM
> To: 'gatt@gatt.co.tt'
> Subject: {GATT} Soldner Review
>
>
> An excellent review of soldner.
>
> I found the bit about certain innovations surprising. C&C Renegade has
> nailed these but it's almost as though no one cares.
>
> Vehicular availability for instance, based on individual money rather than
> camping by spawn points. Also, buying weapons under cover, rather than in
> the open at a terminal watched over by snipers. Nonetheless, it's a good
> read.
>
>
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=17858
>
> A snippet
>
> I am a simple person. I like my meat rare, my potatoes baked, and my
> first-person shooters lag-free. I found my Soldner experience to be like
> ordering steak at chain restaurant; sometimes the meat was done right -
not
> too rare, not too cooked. Other times they burnt the order. In other
words,
> when the game worked great, it was a fantastic experience; when it didn't,
> it was an exercise in frustration.
> Soldner has gone through three Beta releases for its multiplayer
component,
> if you count the patches. The first public beta was as close to a fiasco
as
> a beta can be. The master browser for the servers was in the dev's offices
> and they didn't anticipate the demand, leading the server list not
> populating properly. To add to the woes, connecting to the servers was a
> challenge, and if you were able to get connected, staying connected and
> having decent latency was almost impossible.
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> BG Energy Holdings Limited (a member of BG Group)
> Registered in England No: 3763515
> Registered Address:
> 100 Thames Valley Park Drive
> Reading
> Berkshire RG6 1PT UK
> Telephone: +44 (0) 118 935 3222
> Website:
http://www.BG-Group.com
>
> This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this
> e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information, please
> advise us immediately if you are not the named addressee or the person
> responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee. The
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RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
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Reply #4 on:
May 24, 2004, 06:58:07 PM »
Dread, just say "Oops, my bad" nah. A preview is a preview.
-----Original Message-----
From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
baego@gatt.co.tt
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 7:24 PM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: Re: {GATT} Soldner Review
a preview of the final game but a review of the current builds.
jah, what a nit pick
Kayode James wrote:
>Dread this is a Preview, not a review...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
>Bellamy, Nigel
>Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 5:51 PM
>To: 'gatt@gatt.co.tt'
>Subject: {GATT} Soldner Review
>
>
>An excellent review of soldner.
>
>I found the bit about certain innovations surprising. C&C Renegade has
>nailed these but it's almost as though no one cares.
>
>Vehicular availability for instance, based on individual money rather than
>camping by spawn points. Also, buying weapons under cover, rather than in
>the open at a terminal watched over by snipers. Nonetheless, it's a good
>read.
>
>
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=17858
>
>A snippet
>
>I am a simple person. I like my meat rare, my potatoes baked, and my
>first-person shooters lag-free. I found my Soldner experience to be like
>ordering steak at chain restaurant; sometimes the meat was done right - not
>too rare, not too cooked. Other times they burnt the order. In other words,
>when the game worked great, it was a fantastic experience; when it didn't,
>it was an exercise in frustration.
>Soldner has gone through three Beta releases for its multiplayer component,
>if you count the patches. The first public beta was as close to a fiasco as
>a beta can be. The master browser for the servers was in the dev's offices
>and they didn't anticipate the demand, leading the server list not
>populating properly. To add to the woes, connecting to the servers was a
>challenge, and if you were able to get connected, staying connected and
>having decent latency was almost impossible.
>
>______________________________________________________________________
>BG Energy Holdings Limited (a member of BG Group)
>Registered in England No: 3763515
>Registered Address:
> 100 Thames Valley Park Drive
> Reading
> Berkshire RG6 1PT UK
>Telephone: +44 (0) 118 935 3222
>Website:
http://www.BG-Group.com
>
>This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this
>e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information, please
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RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
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RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
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Reply #5 on:
May 24, 2004, 07:11:24 PM »
lol
i wanted to know oui
would be suprised if it get over a 3/10. heck would be suprised if the game
even start up so they can review it. hell i would be more suprised if the
game even mc install.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kayode James" <spider-guy@tstt.net.tt>
To: <gatt@gatt.co.tt>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
> Dread this is a Preview, not a review...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
> Bellamy, Nigel
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 5:51 PM
> To: 'gatt@gatt.co.tt'
> Subject: {GATT} Soldner Review
>
>
> An excellent review of soldner.
>
> I found the bit about certain innovations surprising. C&C Renegade has
> nailed these but it's almost as though no one cares.
>
> Vehicular availability for instance, based on individual money rather than
> camping by spawn points. Also, buying weapons under cover, rather than in
> the open at a terminal watched over by snipers. Nonetheless, it's a good
> read.
>
>
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=17858
>
> A snippet
>
> I am a simple person. I like my meat rare, my potatoes baked, and my
> first-person shooters lag-free. I found my Soldner experience to be like
> ordering steak at chain restaurant; sometimes the meat was done right -
not
> too rare, not too cooked. Other times they burnt the order. In other
words,
> when the game worked great, it was a fantastic experience; when it didn't,
> it was an exercise in frustration.
> Soldner has gone through three Beta releases for its multiplayer
component,
> if you count the patches. The first public beta was as close to a fiasco
as
> a beta can be. The master browser for the servers was in the dev's offices
> and they didn't anticipate the demand, leading the server list not
> populating properly. To add to the woes, connecting to the servers was a
> challenge, and if you were able to get connected, staying connected and
> having decent latency was almost impossible.
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> BG Energy Holdings Limited (a member of BG Group)
> Registered in England No: 3763515
> Registered Address:
> 100 Thames Valley Park Drive
> Reading
> Berkshire RG6 1PT UK
> Telephone: +44 (0) 118 935 3222
> Website:
http://www.BG-Group.com
>
> This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this
> e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information, please
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RE: {GATT} Soldner Review
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Reply #6 on:
May 24, 2004, 07:21:17 PM »
i don't think its right to make a review of the current builds nah.
especially for this game, good lord. i personally think they should wrap up
this game , bring it in 2005, give it a new name and call that george.
the delay the game due to its bugs an other rubbish, they made a statement
about it an thing from the beta feedback. so if the game makers pull the
game back because of it, and you making a review on something like that,
which isnt anywhere near completion (jeeze i go understand you review the
official demo or something), then thats just wrong and you should be shot.
its however cool to comment on the game. eg:
"boy the mc game aint even install"
"boy i join a server and get kick out a second after"
"boy when i load the game it crash to meh lara croft wallpaper a couple secs
after"
"aye boy i see the menu! but thats all i see, it freeze meh pc
"
----- Original Message -----
From: <baego@gatt.co.tt>
To: <gatt@gatt.co.tt>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: {GATT} Soldner Review
> a preview of the final game but a review of the current builds.
>
> jah, what a nit pick
>
> Kayode James wrote:
>
> >Dread this is a Preview, not a review...
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
> >Bellamy, Nigel
> >Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 5:51 PM
> >To: 'gatt@gatt.co.tt'
> >Subject: {GATT} Soldner Review
> >
> >
> >An excellent review of soldner.
> >
> >I found the bit about certain innovations surprising. C&C Renegade has
> >nailed these but it's almost as though no one cares.
> >
> >Vehicular availability for instance, based on individual money rather
than
> >camping by spawn points. Also, buying weapons under cover, rather than in
> >the open at a terminal watched over by snipers. Nonetheless, it's a good
> >read.
> >
> >
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=17858
> >
> >A snippet
> >
> >I am a simple person. I like my meat rare, my potatoes baked, and my
> >first-person shooters lag-free. I found my Soldner experience to be like
> >ordering steak at chain restaurant; sometimes the meat was done right -
not
> >too rare, not too cooked. Other times they burnt the order. In other
words,
> >when the game worked great, it was a fantastic experience; when it
didn't,
> >it was an exercise in frustration.
> >Soldner has gone through three Beta releases for its multiplayer
component,
> >if you count the patches. The first public beta was as close to a fiasco
as
> >a beta can be. The master browser for the servers was in the dev's
offices
> >and they didn't anticipate the demand, leading the server list not
> >populating properly. To add to the woes, connecting to the servers was a
> >challenge, and if you were able to get connected, staying connected and
> >having decent latency was almost impossible.
> >
> >______________________________________________________________________
> >BG Energy Holdings Limited (a member of BG Group)
> >Registered in England No: 3763515
> >Registered Address:
> > 100 Thames Valley Park Drive
> > Reading
> > Berkshire RG6 1PT UK
> >Telephone: +44 (0) 118 935 3222
> >Website:
http://www.BG-Group.com
> >
> >This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this
> >e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information, please
> >advise us immediately if you are not the named addressee or the person
> >responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee. The
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February 01, 2020, 06:30:00 PM
Crimson609
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lol
February 01, 2020, 05:05:53 PM
Skitz
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So fellas how we go include listing for all dem parts for pc on we profile but doh have any place for motherboard?
January 24, 2020, 09:11:33 PM
Crimson609
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January 20, 2019, 09:23:28 PM
Crimson609
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Big up ya whole slef
January 20, 2019, 09:23:17 PM
protomanex
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Gyul like Link
January 20, 2019, 09:23:14 PM
protomanex
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Man like Kitana
January 20, 2019, 09:22:39 PM
protomanex
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Man like Chappy
January 20, 2019, 09:21:53 PM
protomanex
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Gyul Like Minato
January 20, 2019, 09:21:48 PM
protomanex
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Gyul like XJin
January 20, 2019, 09:19:53 PM
protomanex
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Shout out to man like Crimson
January 20, 2019, 09:19:44 PM
Crimson609
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shout out to gyal like Corbie Gonta
January 20, 2019, 09:19:06 PM
cold_187
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Why allur don't make a discord or something?
December 03, 2018, 06:17:38 PM
Red Paradox
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https://www.twitch.tv/flippay1985
everyday from 6:00pm
May 29, 2018, 09:40:09 AM
Red Paradox
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anyone play EA Sports UFC 3.. Looking for a challenge. PSN: Flippay1985
May 09, 2018, 11:00:52 PM
cold_187
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@TriniXjin not really, I may have something they need (ssd/ram/mb etc.), hence why I also said "trade"
February 05, 2018, 10:22:14 AM
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