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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #880 on: January 19, 2014, 03:23:27 PM »
Demon's Souls actually lost a TON of money, which is why Atlus sold the franchise to Namco (And they were NOT happy about it). Namco has a larger marketing budget and control a niche market. The make the same with less money, it's why they consider 2 million in sales a "profit" and also why next gen isn't planned until current gen sales can "pay for it". 2 Million today on a single platform is "break even" 2 million on multiplatform is a loss.

Resident Evil is an example of Japanese game development as a whole. Flat level design, "if it aint broke don't fix it" attitude and old fashioned dev. processes. Its the reason why the first Dead Space took the mantle with 2.5 mil. units sold as a brand new franchise. Playing lots of these recently (killer is dead, revengence, vanquish) its the same...flat...boring level design. But we like because its old school level design! I love it, is what myself and many of us grew up on. But that was then, this is now.

Titanfall has one thing I haven't heard a SINGLE person mention yet. Gamers only think in the now, developers HAVE to think ahead. And NO other shooter has this as a pillar in their design. The parkour element is to cover it up. VERTICALITY. Shooters (ALL of them) will be moving to this in the future if they want to survive the next decade. But you cant just MAKE a game with it, it has to be an element from the beginning and you need a ASS TON of money to back it up.

Alot of young gamers starting to see this shift. The kids who started on PS2 and PS3. Remember PS3 launched 7 years ago. Those 12-13  year olds are now 19-20. They've either moved on with life or are used to a certain type of game. Few of us actually adapt to what's changed to cater for the new nubs that start gaming. We cant be fooled, but they sure as shit can...every...single...time. We were young, we dont want to listen ...easy pickings.

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« Last Edit: January 19, 2014, 03:27:45 PM by shivadee »

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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #881 on: January 20, 2014, 09:56:19 AM »
Demon's Souls actually lost a TON of money, which is why Atlus sold the franchise to Namco (And they were NOT happy about it).

lol, well there goes that point.

So much for making games incredibly hard.

Park up the elitism....more inclusive game experiences ftw!

and yea Shiv, the parkour element is definitely a highlight.

Not that Battlefield felt very horizontal due to the level designs and helicopters/planes. The franchise even had ziplines at one point (hoping that makes a comeback!)


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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #882 on: January 25, 2014, 02:18:13 PM »
Missed the ultra, but here it is nonetheless:


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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #883 on: January 26, 2014, 09:38:52 PM »
Couple good games:







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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #884 on: January 27, 2014, 08:46:49 AM »
...and not everyone has the time to invest in learning a 'hard' game either.

The main game buying demographic are the people with relationships, jobs, families...you know, actual LIVES nah.
If you make a game that's not easily accessible to that demographic, well you have to depend on the 'hardcore' niche to carry your franchise, and when has that ever worked?  You'll have a good, hard game that almost no one buys.

As a dev, making your accessible (aka 'easier' ) is almost crucial to success these days.
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the "lives" thing is such a poor excuse
ppl think i spend all day playin games? i spend maybe 2-3hrs avg and not every day i play
I manage social life, competitive gaming clan not just a clan where u slap some tags on and call that george and work. Some of the ppl that play that "lives" card play way more games than the ppl they think have "no lives"

lives nothing to do with it its a MINDSET ppl have that if they suck at something new at the start they REFUSE to just continue playin and learning instead ppl quick to judge a game within the 1st 5-10 matches they play online

U knw how many ppl i kno fall under that category and whats even more infuriating is that the few that were bitchin and wanting to quit the 1st 5-10 matches they judgin after a while got good at the game and all of a sudden its the best thing ever

and like someone said ppl afraid to try something new, even the devs so they just copy each other and slap a different name on the box


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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #884 on: January 27, 2014, 08:46:49 AM »

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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #885 on: January 27, 2014, 09:54:29 AM »
Real...  In here

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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #886 on: January 27, 2014, 11:11:48 AM »


the "lives" thing is such a poor excuse


Your opinion, 'bro'.

2 to 3 hours a day for some people is PLENTY.

I probably know a LOT more gamers that fit into the category I described, but whatever.
You seem to know more about them nah.





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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #887 on: January 27, 2014, 11:18:55 AM »
That lives thing is serious point. 2-3 hers gaming ah day? That's rel time Lolo.

Over holiday season or if on vacation I mite manage that, but since work start back I make like zero hours ah day most times, 2hrs ah day on weekend. And with such limited time, I could only afford to play one game, let alone a hard one yuh hadda learn (Killer Instinct).

Dows have to literally schedule gaming time, or push myself late hours to freak other games. For eg, I stay up till 2 playing KI , holiday today. D average Joe eh staying up till no 2. Only young plebs that have rel time on they hand. Or hardcore men with lives trying sneak in ah sweat.

But that's just my experience.

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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #888 on: January 27, 2014, 01:31:40 PM »
Well, guess the future of games is apparently watered down  and uninspired. Thank god it have niche devs like NIS..



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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #889 on: January 27, 2014, 01:52:04 PM »
I dont think the future go be comprised of entirely watered down experiences, but they do need to exist.

The industry needs both.

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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #891 on: January 27, 2014, 04:39:47 PM »
Wait u involved in the project? Nice.

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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #892 on: January 27, 2014, 10:52:16 PM »
Boom!

Nice reveal there Shiv



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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #893 on: January 28, 2014, 09:30:04 AM »
Can't wait on that gears and halo nah. Give my Xbox more wok to do. Though I'll say this, Killer Instinct is very much as epic as I thought. Money well spent!

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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #894 on: January 28, 2014, 04:59:31 PM »


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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #895 on: January 28, 2014, 05:11:51 PM »
Microsoft making all the right moves with these exclusives yes. And that's exactly what they need, strong exclusives to take on uncharted and infamous etc.

Halo, Gears, Titanfall, Killer Instinct, some nice nice exclusives there.
I won't be surprised if they swoop in and buy all the rights to titanfall for future products. I know it have rumors of titanfall 2 for ps4, but MS move rel aggressive these days.

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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #896 on: January 28, 2014, 07:15:25 PM »
Microsoft making all the right moves with these exclusives yes. And that's exactly what they need, strong exclusives to take on uncharted and infamous etc.

Halo, Gears, Titanfall, Killer Instinct, some nice nice exclusives there.
I won't be surprised if they swoop in and buy all the rights to titanfall for future products. I know it have rumors of titanfall 2 for ps4, but MS move rel aggressive these days.
Yep cuz titanfall supposed to be a timed exclusive but they spend $$$$. But they have too or else ps4 would hang them.  All multiplats are better on ps4 plus its cheaper.  I bought an xbox jus for TitanFall
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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #897 on: January 28, 2014, 07:49:28 PM »
Dread even d titanfall man didn't know MS cut ah deal for full exclusive rofl. MS moving rel sick ah tell yuh. Ah like.
No titanfall 1 on ps4 eh, just confirming that. Titanfall 2 is up in the air, but I have a feeling MS go lock it down.

And yes, they need those, what was Sony advantage for a long while is better stronger exclusives, not so much any more. MS made halo a household brand. Gears pull it's weight. 

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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #898 on: January 28, 2014, 08:16:55 PM »
Dread even d titanfall man didn't know MS cut ah deal for full exclusive rofl. MS moving rel sick ah tell yuh. Ah like.
No titanfall 1 on ps4 eh, just confirming that. Titanfall 2 is up in the air, but I have a feeling MS go lock it down.

And yes, they need those, what was Sony advantage for a long while is better stronger exclusives, not so much any more. MS made halo a household brand. Gears pull it's weight.
Yea I kno titan1 aint coming to ps4 or I woulda wait.  Microsoft have the money so they spend. I honestly as a ps3 owner hated how Microsoft always paid for exclusive stuff from 3rd party devs like timed exclusives and such. I will enjoy some of that now. Downloading cod dlc now which is also timed exclusive.  never played a gears or halo game Trying out new things
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Re: Everything Xbox ONE
« Reply #899 on: January 29, 2014, 02:59:24 PM »
Interesting times ahead.

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