Author Topic: The End for BlackBerry? (Read 15638 times)

haterforever · « **Reply #20 on:** March 25, 2012, 04:13:15 PM »

To me, in TT android devices are better phones in general but blackberrys are better communication devices due to bbm. And I have to admit bbm is prob the best mobile messenger there is.

It will also take a while for trinis to fully accept whatsapp and other cross platform messengers and i blame that on bmobile/digicel (no 3g). Their marketing plan for android was not strong enough

Carigamers · « **Reply #20 on:** March 25, 2012, 04:13:15 PM »

woodyear99 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 25, 2012, 04:31:58 PM »

Don't think they can survive on bbm alone.

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haterforever · « **Reply #22 on:** March 25, 2012, 04:40:40 PM »

It may not survive forever. But at least in TT and other similar developing countries it surely is still the most popular phone brand and that wont change any time soon

VirtueTT · « **Reply #23 on:** March 25, 2012, 04:51:42 PM »

Quote from: woodyear99 on March 25, 2012, 04:31:58 PM

Don't think they can survive on bbm alone.

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You'd be surprised Woody. Hater brings a very good point up. Every other person in Trinidad has a blackberry now. Most affordable, user friendly (and by user friendly, i mean to the every day joe) and convenient (bbm) phone atm. Someone was explaining to me that Bmobile at least, makes most of its money from pre-paid customers. All these teenagers today are using their bb's to msg ppl rather than use MyLime calls or text. $30 a week from a couple thousand users is a hefty income.

Androids, iPhones, WP7 are for more techie people like a lot of people here. So at least in our region where the higher end smart phones cannot be fully utilized due to the limitations of service providers, Blackberry will continue to dominate till that changes or RIM goes under or the other phones get cheaper.

woodyear99 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 25, 2012, 04:55:49 PM »

Yeah I totally get that. You see it everywhere in tt, from school children to you people in bars whipping out their bb. I am noticing a trend though more of my friends are switching away from bb, surprising since many were hooked on bbm. Perhaps it will be less popular as android/wp handsets get better and cheaper....

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Carigamers · « **Reply #24 on:** March 25, 2012, 04:55:49 PM »

captainchris · « **Reply #25 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:46:56 PM »

Quote from: woodyear99 on March 25, 2012, 04:55:49 PM

Yeah I totally get that. You see it everywhere in tt, from school children to you people in bars whipping out their bb. I am noticing a trend though more of my friends are switching away from bb, surprising since many were hooked on bbm. Perhaps it will be less popular as android/wp handsets get better and cheaper....

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Either that or ppl starting to realize that BBM is waste of time/cause of alot of trouble.

haterforever · « **Reply #26 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:56:41 PM »

Quote from: LTChineyTT on March 25, 2012, 05:46:56 PM

Quote from: woodyear99 on March 25, 2012, 04:55:49 PM
Yeah I totally get that. You see it everywhere in tt, from school children to you people in bars whipping out their bb. I am noticing a trend though more of my friends are switching away from bb, surprising since many were hooked on bbm. Perhaps it will be less popular as android/wp handsets get better and cheaper....

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note

Either that or ppl starting to realize that BBM is waste of time/cause of alot of trouble.

bbm or the mobile provider?

VirtueTT · « **Reply #27 on:** March 25, 2012, 06:06:43 PM »

BOTH! lol

I can't tell you how often i get a phone call from a friend to see how i'm going, cuz well, it barely happens. People are beginning to lose the importance of actual social interactions. BBM doesn't really help the case in today's youth. Very little effort is needed to make contact with ppl, and you now take everything for granted. You know how many times a week i'd see someone letting everyone know on facebook/bbm status that their service down so they can't talk to anyone? Really?

Not to mention there are a lot of dead spots around the place. The service itself is not consistent at all, at least with bmobile. To think we've had cell phone for over 10 years and still can't get proper coverage around the island from that one provided. Its poor imo. Digicel apparently has a lot better coverage for the BB services, or so i've been told.

*If anyone working TSTT here i hope u reading eh =p*

woodyear99 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 25, 2012, 08:27:01 PM »

Quote from: VirtueTT on March 25, 2012, 06:06:43 PM

BOTH! lol

I can't tell you how often i get a phone call from a friend to see how i'm going, cuz well, it barely happens. People are beginning to lose the importance of actual social interactions. BBM doesn't really help the case in today's youth. Very little effort is needed to make contact with ppl, and you now take everything for granted. You know how many times a week i'd see someone letting everyone know on facebook/bbm status that their service down so they can't talk to anyone? Really?

Not to mention there are a lot of dead spots around the place. The service itself is not consistent at all, at least with bmobile. To think we've had cell phone for over 10 years and still can't get proper coverage around the island from that one provided. Its poor imo. Digicel apparently has a lot better coverage for the BB services, or so i've been told.

*If anyone working TSTT here i hope u reading eh =p*

Our edge service is horrible.

Social media and IM networks are a double edged sword. We are more connected than ever yet it leads to less social interaction, ironic indeed.

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W1nTry · « **Reply #29 on:** March 26, 2012, 08:27:42 AM »

Far be it that I am the harbinger of doom for bb, but hey the numbers don't lie:

Quote

Apple knocks RIM off smartphone top spot in Canada
Blackberry maker gets beaten in its own back yard
By Robert Jaques
Fri Mar 23 2012, 10:47

CANADIAN BLACKBERRY MAKER Research in Motion (RIM) has been knocked off the top of the smartphone shipment league in its home country for the first time.

Sales figures show that the Ontario based company flogged 2.08 million Blackberrys last year in Canada but was pipped at the post by Apple, which shipped 2.85 million units in the country over the same period.

The data, which was produced by research group IDC for Bloomberg, reveals that in 2010 there were around 500,000 more Blackberry devices sold in Canada than Iphones. According to IDC estimates, in 2008 Blackberry devices were outselling Iphones by a factor of five, showing the speed of RIM's decline in its own back yard.

Paul Taylor, a fund manager at BMO Harris Private Banking in Toronto who manages about $15bn in assets, including RIM and Apple shares, told Bloomberg that the Blackberry's decline was due in large part to the Iphone's ease of use and superior portfolio of apps.

"For RIM, in its home market, to lose that No. 1 position to iPhone is strategically important," Taylor said.

"It does identify, even with a home-country bias, how consumers are responding to the greater functionality of the iPhone."

The loss of domestic smartphone market supremacy comes after RIM admitted that it will not upgrade its current Blackberry devices to its upcoming Blackberry 10 operating system, a limitation that could make punters think twice about buying the company's kit.

At RIM's first Developer Conference in Europe last month Vivek Bhardwaj, head of the software portfolio at RIM, told The INQUIRER, "Our currently Blackberry line of smartphones will still remain based on our current Blackberry operating system."

RIM has so far not responded to our request for comment. µ

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2163182/apple-knocks-rim-smartphone-spot-canada

Ouch... beaten in your own backyard... daz a disrespect right there, but imho RIM has had this coming, they really needed to give they users MORE considering they selling point. Instead it seems they buried their heads in the sand and just hoped Android, WP7 and iOS were just a bad dream.

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #30 on:** March 26, 2012, 10:44:44 AM »

hahahah @ bad dream

poetically put w1n

I couldn't agree with you more.

According to Ian Alleyne, the hunt is on....they gonna hunt RIM down.

Attacked on the Techie side by Android....beaten on the ease of use side by Iphone / IOS.

Rim is stuck in the middle. No man's land. Palm was there not too long ago.

The Caribbean is a microscopic market when compared to the global village. RIM holding pole position here will not help their cause (and share price). If the company folds, it will be GG.

They need to bring that concept phone to market with a killer OS 10 sooner rather than later to stay alive.

Redfish · « **Reply #31 on:** March 26, 2012, 11:27:55 AM »

^Yea buddy concept phone.......right that's gonna do it.....

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #32 on:** March 26, 2012, 02:22:12 PM »

Best shot they've got

W1nTry · « **Reply #33 on:** March 26, 2012, 02:28:42 PM »

The biggest problem with BB isn't the phones imho, its the DAMN FUNCTIONALITY (or lackthereof) at a considerably high PRICE. Simple terms, drop price for the crap OS they have AND improve phones so the next gen closes the gap STILL at a lower price point. I pay 2800 for my ATRIX 2, they have NO BB that could come around my phone at a damn bold is 3k+? WTH? really?

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #34 on:** March 26, 2012, 02:58:23 PM »

problem is, the old phones can't be upgraded to OS 10 (so says rim, since its a completely new OS), as a result, they need new hardware in combination with the new OS to stay relevant.

Hence the concept phone being their best, if not only hope.

Exar_Kun · « **Reply #35 on:** April 19, 2012, 12:29:38 PM »

RIM is basically dead and buried everywhere that matters.
They still have a lot of success in developing markets such as the Caribbean, Africa, Middle East etc where people are just getting into the idea of smartphones, where bbm makes them a huge hit and where the markets aren't sophisticated yet enough to handle iOS/Android in their full glory.

Holding strong in these markets is essentially a slow death. The name of the game right now is apps. Those markets don't have the established app developers, and the established developers are more interested in the purchasing power of a man in the US of Western Europe than some dude in Africa. So they'll support the dominant platforms in developed countries.

By the time BB10 is launched, even Windows Phone will have gotten a year head start on them. And if the rumour of them having limited android app emulation is true that doesn't do much, why settle for android app emulation when you can get the real deal. Even assuming RIM's new phones and OS are a quality products, they don't have a game changer that will cause buyers in developed countries to flock back. RIM lost all that market share because they made significant missteps, for them to regain any of it means they have to wait for Apple, Google and later Microsoft to make similar ones. Seems doubtful to me.

D'TITAN · « **Reply #36 on:** April 20, 2012, 08:09:38 PM »

There are still enough corporate customers for RIM who won't want to change immediately. This will give them time to make improvements and maybe come back.