Illuminati Symbolism; Conspiracy or Reality

[Preston786]

I've heard about the free masons before but i think its one in the same? has anyone ever heard about either what are your views?

N.B. JFK's speech in the end from 8:00

[rb]

http://vigilantcitizen.com/

its everywheres

Might also wanna check out the Obama deception on youtube.

[Exar_Kun]

Illuminati is not related to freemasonry in any way.
Freemasons are real (hundreds in t&t) whereas illuminati is just fodder for conspiracy theorists,

[Preston786]

http://vigilantcitizen.com/

its everywheres

Might also wanna check out the Obama deception on youtube.

will chk that later but looks interesting thnx !

Illuminati is not related to freemasonry in any way.
Freemasons are real (hundreds in t&t) whereas illuminati is just fodder for conspiracy theorists,

ok cool well i heard abt the free mason stuff from a professor peaked interested an watching this illuminati thing was even more interesting esp the speech in the end....

[Kaizen]

But I like the blueprint 3 awwwwWWWZ!

[W1nTry]

Illuminati is not related to freemasonry in any way.
Freemasons are real (hundreds in t&t) whereas illuminati is just fodder for conspiracy theorists,

I'll quote a phrase: "The Greatest prank the devil ever played was to make man believe he did not exist"

[Q]

WELL SAID, W1nTry. I was thinking the exact same thing. Which is the greater evil: The one that you're sure exists or the one still shrouded in myth and shadow?

Chakra fuh bein intelligently paranoid like me.

[rb]

With all the convenient coincidences happening day after day, you have to be stupid to not at least think there's something unnaturally wrong in the world today.

[Berzerk]

this thread will make me more paranoid than I already am....

[Preston786]

Illuminati is not related to freemasonry in any way.
Freemasons are real (hundreds in t&t) whereas illuminati is just fodder for conspiracy theorists,

I'll quote a phrase: "The Greatest prank the devil ever played was to make man believe he did not exist"

well said...

With all the convenient coincidences happening day after day, you have to be stupid to not at least think there's something unnaturally wrong in the world today.

i agree

some sources may be a little over reaching with some of their theories but most of them make perfect sense especially if u do a little research and i know some people just choose to ignore it for the most popular reason i believe, as the saying goes .....................What You Don't Know Can't Hurt You..................

[Kaizen]

With all the convenient coincidences happening day after day, you have to be stupid to not at least think there's something unnaturally wrong in the world today.

hee hee durrrrrrrrr !

[Philosophical45]

well that video is freaking crazy yo.... my word!.. and i though zeitgiest and obama deception made me feel weird... O_o

[Exar_Kun]

Illuminati is not related to freemasonry in any way.
Freemasons are real (hundreds in t&t) whereas illuminati is just fodder for conspiracy theorists,

I'll quote a phrase: "The Greatest prank the devil ever played was to make man believe he did not exist"

The whole lack of evidence is not evidence of lack can be used to churn up belief in all sorts of nonsense.
Regardless though, Freemasonry is not associated with whatever any Illuminati is considered to be. That's really all I wanted to say.

[Preston786]

Illuminati is not related to freemasonry in any way.
Freemasons are real (hundreds in t&t) whereas illuminati is just fodder for conspiracy theorists,

I'll quote a phrase: "The Greatest prank the devil ever played was to make man believe he did not exist"

The whole lack of evidence is not evidence of lack can be used to churn up belief in all sorts of nonsense.
Regardless though, Freemasonry is not associated with whatever any Illuminati is considered to be. That's really all I wanted to say.

Noted but you cannot prove that...... as their purpose is not available to the public ....... now why would an organization that claims to be transparent and peaceful hide their intentions from non-members then say there is no secrecy......makes sense .... nuh don't think so

 

[Exar_Kun]

There's obviously no way to convince any crazy conspiracy theorist without indulging their every macocious whim. That said though, I'm a third generation freemason and there's nothing to any of that crap.
It's just like any fraternity, albeit one more wide ranging than any other. Something as simple as any college fraternity, go up and demand the secrets reserved for their membership from them and you'll likely get some hard slap for your troubles.

Anyway, I see enough of this ignorance in real life; I'm done here.

[UltimateGamer]

I myself have believed in the illuminati and NWO since, well 16 years now. I have followed up and did quite a bit of research in my day. To me, not a conspiracy theory in any way.

Wanna know why michael died...

[woodyear99]

That was freaky, ah well back to life in the Matrix no red pill for me.

[Preston786]

There's obviously no way to convince any crazy conspiracy theorist without indulging their every macocious whim. That said though, I'm a third generation freemason and there's nothing to any of that crap.
It's just like any fraternity, albeit one more wide ranging than any other. Something as simple as any college fraternity, go up and demand the secrets reserved for their membership from them and you'll likely get some hard slap for your troubles.

Anyway, I see enough of this ignorance in real life; I'm done here.

 ......... cant handle a little conversation we're all just expressing our views man no crazy conspiracy theorists here....... would be nice if you cld just tell us the purpose of your frat since u choose to call it one.....
......anyway that's beside the point this thread was to discuss Illuminati influence/existence and u concentrating a bit too much on the free masons i just found it strange i couldn't see their purpose that's all no reason to get testy ....

That was freaky, ah well back to life in the Matrix no red pill for me.

what abt the blue one ?   

[W1nTry]

There's obviously no way to convince any crazy conspiracy theorist without indulging their every macocious whim. That said though, I'm a third generation freemason and there's nothing to any of that crap.
It's just like any fraternity, albeit one more wide ranging than any other. Something as simple as any college fraternity, go up and demand the secrets reserved for their membership from them and you'll likely get some hard slap for your troubles.

Anyway, I see enough of this ignorance in real life; I'm done here.

Said the 3rd Gen freemason XD

Here's a thought, Intel as in CPU manufacturer, as in multi BILLION dollar industry has been charged at least TWICE now with anti-competitive practices, what did the current CEO Paul O have to say? The he was unaware of any wrong doing or any ill practices and that he maintains their innocence. Now it's not to say he's not speaking the truth. As far as he is AWARE they were never in such practices, that's not to say it isn't true. Can you vouch for freemasons in the greater northern european region? or in the US or specific parts of the US?

I'm predominantly of the asian persuasion, but I wouldn't put my head on the chopping block for them not being into gendercide, or whaling, or etc...

[TriniXaeno]

good point w1n

lol @ blue pill

I've dealt with a few freemasons over the years in business and they've been pretty decent folk. Very resourceful, skillful, dedicated, etc...

Role models for up and comers. Not unlike Rotary Club, Chamber of Commerce or the Junior Chamber (JayCees)

That isn't to say that all are as noble and well intentioned. I am sure like any group of ambitious people, they are bound to have their rotten apples.

Some gamers give us a terrible rep as a whole, not so? Doesn't mean we are all bad.

Someone touched on this earlier in the thread.....what is the point??

Are we supposed to take some action after seeing the video? Head to the mountains and stop using technology?

Awaken and do what?