Windows Phone 7

[Spazosaurus]

Well when you're right, you're right. I see it as room for improvement as indeed, no platform is perfect. I am sure something is in the works to make this process a bit smoother, just a matter of time. Change has to come gradually as there is alot to be done.

In the mean time, however, i'm sure that the users still waiting for their ICS updates are not suffering in the least due to a lack of features or support:)

[TriniXaeno]

At the low end, a phone is a phone. It doesn't really require updates to begin with.

You ever see anyone updating their Nokia 3310?





lol.


So I don't think that's a hot topic on the low end at all. Now would I consider Nokia's abandonment of the 3310 a bad thing. They will produce updates for their current SKUs and that's fine.


I think where this will matter is in the current line up. Say phones on the market a year or two now.

If you want in on the latest and greatest. Get a relatively modern phone that (as awesome says) would be in line for at least one major update and several small ones.


This isn't a desktop PC we're talking about here. My phone isn't going to have a sata 3 raid controller that isn't supported out of the box with the OS it ships with.


On paper, it may sound bad...but in reality, a non issue in my opinion.


And yes, I think abandonment is the better word to use to describe it, as opposed to fragmentation.


I'm no fan of it, coming from a long line of BlackBerries. I know the pain of seeing a new OS or BBM update released that my old RIM device could not support. Many times for no good reason other than RIM wanting to force me to upgrade to a new handset so they can get my $$.

[Spazosaurus]

I think that as fanboys, it is our duty to recognise deficiencies in a system and clamour as a community to get them sorted out.

The real problem begins when we either finds away to justify away inadequacies, sweep them under the carpet or just generally ignore them.

I know this is next to impossible for phoenix and messiah to do which is pretty unfortunate.

[phoenix31tt]

@ awesome, thank you... u understand what i mean now, and you're right @ non ics users.. until they see ics in action that is... happened to a couple of my friends.. with their Notes prior to their ics update.. i saw them on gb and was like.. ummm... dude u need to get ICS, show them what ics was about... and of course they were benning that they didn't have the update lol...

and wyatt.. lol really you bring back some memories there.. but really and truly the abandonment/fragmentation doesnt only affect the low end.. it affects the full range...

people with low end devices dont even know they're running android lol.. they just know they have a phone..

lol just read your second post awesome.. you cant be serious.. lol... that is what you just tried to do with android.. until i made it clear... i never do that... i always concede where something is messed up.. like no msn in the first iteration of windows phone, the lack of copy/paste etc... i made all that clear... so dont say i sweep stuff under a rock as a fanboy...


as a matter of fact, in my daily interactions with android users... thats the same sentiment i feel... imaging talking to someone with a transformer.. and the guy sitting telling me that within the meeting we were in, his android crashed 4 times.. and he's all happy and jokingly saying it... and then saying his device is the bomb...

if his windows pc crashes once in a day.. he cussing.. lol


if you make a post saying android apps crash alot... responses from android fanboys will be, well there are apps to auto restart crashed apps, and apps to monitor apps to stop it from crashing and all that nonsense... while completely ignoring the point that apps crash

[TriniXaeno]

yeah, the crashing on android is a little embarrassing. It's not a hard BSOD type of crash mind you....but its still a crash.

Which led me to comment that its 90% there. By the next iteration, I hope they would have solved that.

So it feels more like a finished product. BB's used to crash too but we need to aim higher than that, lol

[Spazosaurus]

Come on stop troling. You know as well as I do that crashing is heavily dependent on Use Case.

If that guy is getting crashing on apps that everyone else uses without issue, clearly its a problem on his end and not the OS or app by itself.

So can I also get you to concede that MS and Nokia should now eat their words on their absolutely no fragmentation stance? Also acknowledge that making users buy a flagship device that will have no hope of running a new os to be released 5 months down the road is horse$hit?

Also, this may be pushing it, but can you concede that android is indeed 'the bomb' if a man getting problems and still find is the best thing out? Clearly, android is doing something right that others arent!

[MessiaaH]

Umm awesome, I used a brand new gs2 and it was d most unstable phone I've ever used in my entire life. And I'd like to think I've been in d feel long enough to not be doing shit. A brand new device, rmener my review? I'm sure if I hack it id get it to work fine, but why I can't use a stock device without that mess? Bullshit. Also, evetbody know d Nokia running old hardware, if u buying that expecting Apollo ure an ass, not ms or Nokia, they eh hide d fact that it's a single core etc. D Lumia running d same hardware as d titan I bougtg last year September. U seriously want to blame ms for that?and they going out of they way to still push f hardware to d limits of what it can do. And u Wah cuss Dem? Unlike buying an android device that is perfectly capable of running d new OS amd NOT getting it.

Android is a pack of shit. And MS come rel good to still provide an update for 3 year old hardware regardless if it was bought 2009 or 2012, d hardware still old.

[phoenix31tt]

and he says i'm trolling... lol...

i done they yes...

[Spazosaurus]

With all due respect to you being in 'd feel' long enough, forgive me if I totally disregard your 'review' of an Android OS and device completely and unequivocally.

That would be the equivalent of reading a review of an Nvidia video card done by an AMD sponsored reviewer. Completely useless and a waste of time.

And again, your statement about android phones not getting updates are couldnt be futher from the truth, as usual.

I eh go lie, allyuh REALLL drink that kool-aid in vast quantities boy lawd faddah!!!

And whats this? wp8 apps incompatible with wp7.x devices? Wow, thers's absolutely nothing wrong with that! Marvellous job microsoft!

[phoenix31tt]

.. i wonder if i could pull a berserk and show u the door.. since clearly you have derailed this thread and gone into troll mode...

[Spazosaurus]

Just pointing out some obvious things that you guys are apparently too close to see.

If that is your definition of trolling, then I guess im trolling!

[MessiaaH]

right now i juss laughing rofl lmao.

Awesome, android is so epic, it have so much marketshar, etc etc, wp have such ah small uptake.
So why d fight down? We should be d ones fighting to get man on d platform, wah u hottin yuh head for? Android nice ent?  rofl lmao.

Anyways, i done dey, i go let man fight up with they self whiles i enjoy my phone

Like after MS lash d world monday men get tisick rofl.
No need to worry, android will be around for a while again.
Doh let d epicness that is MS get to u awesome, relax, go enjoy ur shitdroid, cough, ah mean android.

[Spazosaurus]

While Android is indeed epic, theres absolutely no need for condescension. It is unnecessary and anti-productive.

It just amazes me how for people who do not draw a MS paycheck (or do you?) you ignore all drawbacks of the OS and or sweep it under the carpet.

This, in fact neither makes me laugh nor happy, rather quite sad.

[phoenix31tt]

you still hear trolling...

cmon... seriously now...

if you dont have anything to say that's directly related to the Topic of the thread "i.e. Windows Phone 7"... well.. u know what to do

[Spazosaurus]

Oh sorry, I was expecting actual responses to my questions in post #285.

So I guess that means no answers then? Figures...

Any non-ms employees, please feel free to chime in.

[phoenix31tt]

post 285:

Come on stop troling. You know as well as I do that crashing is heavily dependent on Use Case.

If that guy is getting crashing on apps that everyone else uses without issue, clearly its a problem on his end and not the OS or app by itself.

So can I also get you to concede that MS and Nokia should now eat their words on their absolutely no fragmentation stance? Also acknowledge that making users buy a flagship device that will have no hope of running a new os to be released 5 months down the road is horse$hit?

Also, this may be pushing it, but can you concede that android is indeed 'the bomb' if a man getting problems and still find is the best thing out? Clearly, android is doing something right that others arent!

the answers to your questions is no...

great now u'll grow up and stop trolling

[Spazosaurus]

hahahah ok buddy

[TriniXaeno]

hahahha @ not drawing a MS salary...or are you?

Comment of the thread thus far.

To be fair, I think quite a large number of us on this forum do draw a Microsoft salary indirectly. Being in the field of IT is 95% all about Microsoft.

If they should tumble and say, linux became the status quo enterprise client, a lot of us would be sent back to school. Lets not forget, Android is linux based.

That said, let me chime in on Messiaah side of the fence here. I've bought a spanking brand new Galaxy Nexus and can confirm that it does crash. Stock experience. No apps, no custom rom....just the stock experience and I've got crashes.

Not a deal breaker but enough to warrant concern.

The keyboard crashed, the camera crashed, the gallery app crashed and more.

It was a bit of an eye opener. Almost beta like in the experience.

Still, I have not lost faith in Android. Just expecting them to get better and better as time goes buy.

[Spazosaurus]

Send back da phone boy wyatt, it faulty.

Seriously though, the only thing im jealous of in that list is Enterprise management. Although there are third party tools to do this for Android, I think that Google is seriously dropping the ball in this respect.

[Arcmanov]

Hmmm...objectivity in short supply these days.



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