Author Topic: Windows Phone 7 (Read 75744 times)

phoenix31tt · « **Reply #160 on:** August 09, 2011, 11:37:58 AM »

just another quick demo showing some of the mango features.

I just think the way MS implemented some of these things are so cool and streamlined. They really reduce wasted time between performing actions

Carigamers · « **Reply #160 on:** August 09, 2011, 11:37:58 AM »

Preston786 · « **Reply #161 on:** August 16, 2011, 11:24:29 AM »

quick cards and bing vision ..... very cool

woodyear99 · « **Reply #162 on:** August 28, 2011, 09:28:26 PM »

Hehe for the Windows Phone 7 fans

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2011/08/25/memories-of-old.aspx

MessiaaH · « **Reply #163 on:** September 01, 2011, 03:05:25 PM »

The sucessor to the HD7 has arrived
Meet the HTC Titan:

HTC TITAN - First Look

4.7" 1.5Ghz, 8mp Cam, 768MB Ram, 1600mAH, Front Facing Cam, Virtual 5.1 surround sound

http://www.sizeasy.com/page/size_comparison/32807-HTC-Eternity-vs-Galaxy-S-II

http://wmpoweruser.com/htcs-official-htc-radar-and-htc-titan-teaser-videos/

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/htc-titan-and-radar-wp-7-mango-phones-revealed-we-go-hands/

MessiaaH · « **Reply #164 on:** September 01, 2011, 03:20:31 PM »

http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-titan-official-feature-overview-videos/

HTC TITAN - Unlike anything you've ever held before

HTC TITAN - Entertainment that really comes to life

HTC TITAN - No more point and shoot camera for you

HTC TITAN - A multitasking machine

Carigamers · « **Reply #164 on:** September 01, 2011, 03:20:31 PM »

MessiaaH · « **Reply #165 on:** September 01, 2011, 03:54:25 PM »

HTC Radar (Midrange Mango Device) Vids:

http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-radar-official-feature-overview-videos/

HTC Titan Engadget Hands On (Video Included):

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/htc-titan-and-radar-wp-7-mango-phones-revealed-we-go-hands/

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #166 on:** January 02, 2012, 02:37:11 PM »

Wow, this topic really took an arrow to the knee.

Just a little bit of bad news. The only official way to unlock winmo phones has now dried up..way to encourage devs to write for your platform dudes!!

http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-unlocking-tool-being-discontinuedfor-now

MessiaaH · « **Reply #167 on:** January 02, 2012, 03:14:01 PM »

^^ Huh?

That is not d only official way :S, There is d Microsoft provided way, but it cost 100$ to register as a developer and u get 5 device unlock codes, and are able to submit and sell apps on the marketplace. Which is d real way.
Cheveron provided a cheap alternatives for men who wanted to play around with homebrew and write apps, but dont want to submit anything for sale.

There is also unofficial ways that can be used to unlock phones out there if u really want to do it and not pay.

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #168 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:40:46 AM »

I just realised, this unlocking is really just allowing one to sideload apps. Why charge for this in the first place?

MessiaaH · « **Reply #169 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:02:50 AM »

Because its an officially sanctioned method by microsoft to unlock your device and does not void your warranty. So if shit happens, u can carry it back to the store unlocked and they have to replace it. Unliked Rooting/Jailbreaking you void warranty if taken back to the store in that state. 10$ for officially sanctioned sideloading is not a high price to ask. And if you dont want to pay 10$ for the comfort of knowing you can take it back to the store at any time, then there is always the non-official unlocking methods at your own risk.

And seeing that Chevron has already reached their max allowed unlocks per MS policy, seems alot of ppl has chosen to pay the 10$, (10,000 to be exact). Chevron is currently negotiating with Microsoft to raise this limit.

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #170 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:14:59 AM »

Understood.

Just as a note though, sideloading is standard with every Android handset out of the box, warranty is not voided by installing apps, only things like rooting and nand unlock void warranty.

Not to troll or anything, I find it highly strange that IOS and winmo should charge for this 'feature'. If they are concerned about protecting users from themselves, maybe only let apps that do require elevation to mess with the system bits? This is one of the major issues I have with mobile os makers.

MessiaaH · « **Reply #171 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:41:52 AM »

MS and Apple are trying to avoid the virus nightmare that currently exists on android, whether its the best solution or not i do not know. All i can say is, im Happy with my HTC Titan.

And like i said, if you want it free, you can, just dont expect MS/Apple to redeem your warranty.
It's a perfect way to protect themselfs from ppl who dont know what they doing, bricking their devices, then returning them.
And if you do know what you're doing, bricking is highly unlikely.

All in all i think MS struck a nice balance, because apple does not support JB in any way form or fassion, not even paid. You JB a apple device, you void your warrant, thats it. MS at least provides an officially sanctioned way for a mere 10$ and its not actaully MS but chevron that offers the service, just endorsed by MS.

Chevron btw was the first group to unofficially unlock wp7, MS approached them in hopes of officially supporting jbing, and it all turned out fine. 10$ is not much to ask, to keep your warranty. MS playing middle ground between ios and android. Not a bad idea if u ask me.

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #172 on:** January 03, 2012, 10:22:01 AM »

Dont listen to those who claim that there is a 'virus nightmare' on android. As with any platform, it is vulnerable to phishing scams which, as with using a PC, a lick of sense in the brain and standard 1 level reading and comprehension skills can avoid 99% of potential problems.

Even with Android's lax checking, the percentage of the user base actually affected is extremely small and everyone has access to build and test apps unrestricted.

I'm just saying that in order for MS to really pick things up from the slow pace they have been going at thus far, it wouldnt hurt to, at least in the earlies, make it as easy and cheap as possible for apps to flood in.

Look at their Desktop OS. it is closed source but people are free to develop and test their apps. Especially for igniting a struggling platform, its dumb ( to say the least) to charge for the 'privellege' of making apps. But you know, whatevs.

W1nTry · « **Reply #173 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:02:10 AM »

I have been eyeing windows phones for a little while now... it's a strange thing... I am not 'big' on MS per say but I want a WP7 because its different, will integrate well with XBL and cause it's not something 'everyone + their dog' does NOT has. I not on iPhone cause I think it prohibitively expensive and will continue to monitor the scene from a distance ftw. I did come across 2 interesting articles on Ars regarding WP7 and the decisions they are making have a read:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/12/a-look-ahead-2012-is-microsofts-turning-point.ars

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/12/is-windows-phones-consumer-focus-killing-it.ars

One of the most important points imho made in one of the above articles was that MS is trying to ENSURE a high quality experience on their mobile platform... which if you compare to their desktop OS may be arguably a nice change as OS milleage will vary. As messiaah pointed out, its not as locked up as Apple (and look how successful they are inspite of it) but its not as loose as Android. I like the direction they are going atm, I just hope they garner the support and following to really open up the apps available which seems to be the biggest selling point of all smart phones.

I am waiting on the Nokia Lumia 710 to become available in the US unclocked or the Samsung i8350. Depending on the prices in USD I may decided to bite the bullet at that point in time. So far my Android experience on my gf phone is mixed.... cyanogen mode 7.1 is running but due to either the phone or the rom, it's not 100% stable. WHen it works it works well, when it decides to play d @$$ it's annoying. I've played with many an iPhone and its nice, smooth, stable but also feels... like a walled garden. I am hopign WP7 will walk the fine line between the two but only time will tell.

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #174 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:16:57 AM »

I think just about any wp7 phone is going to give you a better experience than that Backflip. Thing is seriously resource restricted, even when it was launched.

WP7 is certainly different, hence its appeal (I think). But MS is no apple. What worked for paul wont necessarily work for all.

I'm not saying that the only way for ms to get out of the rut is to open things up a bit (though it certainly wont hurt) but charging a premium to become a developer isnt exactly the way to roll in the apps.

I for one would like, one day to get myself a decent winmo phone and roll with it (not as a daily driver of course), but just as an alternative but until there are a LOT more apps and a glimmer of flexibility, sadly I can't even consider it.

MessiaaH · « **Reply #175 on:** January 03, 2012, 12:56:27 PM »

The biggest problem wp7 face is not lack of apps, becuase i have all d apps i need and more. MS is focusing on quality, over quantity, so i personally dont care that android have greater app numbers over wp, and honestly like i said, thats not MS problem.

MS problem is in the consumer space, d sales ppl in d store sick on android, and thats all they sell. Its why android even outselling apple (easily i mite add). Right now carriers trying to sell LTE and they want ppl on the LTE plan, and thus selling android devices that provide LTE, its why nokia is working hard to get LTE nokia devices in the US fast. Becuase at the end of d day, d average consumer doesnt know anything bout how much apps, or how flexable d platoform is. D average consumer buys what is recommended to them when they walk in an At&T store etc. And that recommended product is always Android, Apple 2nd, and WP if u specifically ask for it.

The other problem MS faces is that, when ppl hear windows phone, they are thinking windows mobile, and has no idea that windows phone 7 is infact a completely different product. PPL still thinking windows phone is d same old buggy mess that was windows 6.5, which in today's time could be considered android.

In d end i love microsoft approach, be d middle man, best of both worlds, they juss need to raise consumer awareness, get they act together with marketing (nokia have that down pack imo), and leverage their other products, i.e. xbox / windows pc into windows phone eco system. (d xbox campaign and metro push is well on the way.)

When nokia hit the US we shall see if things start getting significantly better for the platform. But apps and opening up to developers is not d answer. D answer is getting d carriers to sell and promote d phones as much as they are doing android. Techies and Geeks is a very very minuscule part of phone sales. I know ppl think android is d best phone in d world, and they knows nothing about the product, all they know is, they saw some lightening strike d ground on tv, and when d guy pick it up, it was an android, and automatically assume android was the best. And when they go buy it, and realise they cant use it, the android device is reduced to a phone call and sms device.

Anyways, like i said, Im Loving my HTC Titan, the Nokia 900 is going to cut rel ass, but ill wait on apollo before device hop.

MessiaaH · « **Reply #176 on:** January 03, 2012, 01:23:18 PM »

An e.g. of what im talking bout:

http://soundcloud.com/erricomalatesta/at-t-call-about-windows-phone

I've actually listened to the whole podcast and at the end they called at&t in search of a windows phone. That above is the call made to at&t store.

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #177 on:** January 03, 2012, 02:43:36 PM »

By chance, is there an online portal where one can view apps available for wp7?

MessiaaH · « **Reply #178 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:31:07 PM »

Yes,

www.windowsphone.com ,

Click marketplace.

U can install apps to your device straight from there.
Search away.

Also keep in mind that you may be looking for a specific app by name when there is alternative apps doing d same thing just named differently

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #179 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:54:21 PM »

Just recommended to a co-worker he get the HTC Mozart as he isnt looking to spend a lot and isnt hardcore techie with the phones (yeah yeah check my temperature blah blah)

Depending on how it is, I may pick up a used one for myself to do some testing.

Carigamers · « **Reply #179 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:54:21 PM »

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