Your take on the conflict in Gaza

[W1nTry]

First off if we're going to start a pointing match of who was the bigger @$$hole we need to lay out more facts. And if we were doing that then we'd be saying alot of other countries are @$$holes. The point I am getting at here is that we started with a discussion on the problem in gaza and have strayed to calling other ppl etc. So I would like to point out how bad ppl from the greater part of my ethnic constition are (yes I am reffering to the chinese):
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/CHINA.CHAP1.HTM

Let me quote a piece for you:

But killing by the Nationalists was also strategic and ideological. After the initial cooperative period, they especially sought out communists or communist sympathizers for execution. When defeating the communists in a particular region and occupying or reoccupying it, they went so far as to kill anyone they felt had cooperated with the communists or had been tainted by them. In one military drive against the communist in 1934 to 1935, they slaughtered or starved to death perhaps as many as 1,000,000 people.

One would almost say the Japanese were helping the chinese kill themselves...

Also since the point was brought up that Japan was being a bully, let's understand why a little bette:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_Japan_attack_China_in_World_War_2
A little excerp:

Japan was also a resource poor nation with an industrious, expansionist people. It was only natural that they look to the mainland of Asia for new space to occupy. The war with Russia in the early 1900's gave Japan an opportunity to expand into Manchuria, technically a part of China but only loosely controlled.

Hmm why ever would they do that.... it's not like anyone else hasn't but mother wasn't reffered to as an @$$hole now was she...

But wait, the figures of chinese deaths gets better:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Mao

People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975): 40 000 000

I could also tell you of some of the attrocities that the Chinese have commited against it own ppl from first hand accounts if you like, and there is of course the chinese oppression of mongolians <- (YO REDLUM kindly provide me with that link to human attrocities of the chinese against mongols again thanks)

Anyways, back to the topic at hand regardless of who is the ORIGIANL owner, this CRAP has to stop... oh one more thing on who, how and why Israel was put back in PALESTINE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine
Excerp:

The Palestine Committee set up by the Foreign Office recommended that the reference to 'the claim' be omitted. The Allies had already noted the historical connection in the Treaty of Sèvres, but they had recognized no legal claim. They felt that whatever might be done for the Jewish people was based entirely on sentimental grounds. Further, they felt that all that was necessary was to make room for Zionists in Palestine, not that they should turn 'it', that is the whole country, into their home.

[Synchronomyst]

...but I've either said or alluded to all of this in this topic so far.

I don't know why this is so shocking. To Israel, this is a measure in time of war to reduce propaganda and an opportunity for zionist sympathisers to be as relentless as they need to be against both palestinian fighter and civilian. However, to a place like China...it would be just another Thursday.

...and

Sure you can accuse the US of doing that currently but as I always say and always prove...there is NO Benevolent state in this world

...also I've also stated that quote you posted to be the exact reason they decided to move them back there (or "there" since they never actually lived there). I've explained pretty much everything.

[Mickey]

I wish the rest of the world shared the general ideas of u guy...but it is not so, there are ppl who believe wat dey hear on the news....it is manipulation of the media there was a court ruling if not mistaken to band media persons but still allow some in I might be harking on conspiracy here but information is the gate keeper of the world...like wat was said earlier there is a big fuss bout two building but if a schools an hospitals are bombed because of the location an the native ppl's religion the only concerns are if any American where hurt or did dey killed the terrorist no mention of the innocent lives lost....and wat  is really scary is the fact that Russia cut oil supplies to some European countries so there is the possibly that some more Muslim states will be bombed an attacked for political reasons or who knows the all time fav. the invisible nuclear bombs an while dat is goin on maybe the bomber will take some oil......and most of us will back it cuz we jus believe wat is told to us.........

[Synchronomyst]

so it was bad indeed, and nothing can ever make the nazis look good. but ... certain people looking like they have become the thing they hate.

Now the Jews never attacked the Germans and were never really a problematic people...but god damn if it don't seem like they're becoming that, in truth.

[Crixx_Creww]

well the israeli jews never had the gurmanzz to worry bout in the first place but indeed seems like in their zealous(yes i love using that word whilst referring to our lions of juda)haste to prevent another round of atrocities from happening to them, they have indeed become the thing they hate isnt life grand?

[W1nTry]

As they say history is DOOMED to repeat itself... that being said: Israelis snub UN ceasefire call

Yeah...

[Redlum08]

As they say history is DOOMED to repeat itself... that being said: Israelis snub UN ceasefire call

Yeah...

History is DOOMED to repeat itself is right, and from history and scientific research the world is almost due for a catastrophic chain of events of Epic proportions..LOL Prepare to face extinction people...who cares about the fighting anymore...

[W1nTry]

History is DOOMED to repeat itself is right, and from history and scientific research the world is almost due for a catastrophic chain of events of Epic proportions..LOL Prepare to face extinction people...who cares about the fighting anymore...

Says the harbinger of doom XD

If we're all going up in a puff of flames, ash and volcanic dust then I say NOW is the time to TREAT YOUR BROTHER LIKE YOU LOVE HIM and YOUR SISTER LIKE YOU LOVE HER!!! make love not war

[Synchronomyst]

As they say history is DOOMED to repeat itself... that being said: Israelis snub UN ceasefire call

Yeah...

History is DOOMED to repeat itself is right, and from history and scientific research the world is almost due for a catastrophic chain of events of Epic proportions..LOL Prepare to face extinction people...who cares about the fighting anymore...

Sell house. Divorce wife. Move to commune. F**k b****es.

Just a suggestion.

[Redlum08]

History is DOOMED to repeat itself is right, and from history and scientific research the world is almost due for a catastrophic chain of events of Epic proportions..LOL Prepare to face extinction people...who cares about the fighting anymore...

Says the harbinger of doom XD

If we're all going up in a puff of flames, ash and volcanic dust then I say NOW is the time to TREAT YOUR BROTHER LIKE YOU LOVE HIM and YOUR SISTER LIKE YOU LOVE HER!!! make love not war

 

[Mickey]

Sigh.....lil over two weeks and no one else thinks this is genocide......seem we have a next holocaust on our hands....the media really sways   

[W1nTry]

Here is a blog by a israeli who converses with his friend who lives in the gaza strip:
http://gaza-sderot.blogspot.com/

Needless to say the person in gaza is suffering

[Exar_Kun]

Sigh.....lil over two weeks and no one else thinks this is genocide......seem we have a next holocaust on our hands....the media really sways   

Genocide is rather overstating things. Badly at that. It's a word people use to inflame passions and it's completely inappropriate.
What's happening is not genocide and is not even comparable to the holocaust, to think otherwise is to be completely ignorant or callous with regard to sensitive history. What it is though is a very heavy handed campaign that is far too careless with regard to collateral damage.

[Crixx_Creww]

Sigh.....lil over two weeks and no one else thinks this is genocide......seem we have a next holocaust on our hands....the media really sways   

Genocide is rather overstating things. Badly at that. It's a word people use to inflame passions and it's completely inappropriate.
What's happening is not genocide and is not even comparable to the holocaust, to think otherwise is to be completely ignorant or callous with regard to sensitive history. What it is though is a very heavy handed campaign that is far too careless with regard to collateral damage.

you think the people in gaza being wantonly slaughtered agree with you that its not genocide?
you said like an impassionate indifferent german at the side of the rail ways in 1942...

[Exar_Kun]

Crixx you does really know what you talkin about?

genocide
noun
the murder of a whole group of people, especially a whole nation, race or religious group

They not killing them all, they have no intention of killing them all. Maybe you not military minded Crixx, but using reasonably accurate weaponry in near surgical strikes is not the best way to mass murder.
Civilians are being killed because Hamas operatives are hiding amongst the people and Israel is willing to risk large civilian casualties in order to kill them. THAT is the problem. Gaza is one of the most densely populated regions on Earth, using airstrikes means the user is accepting the possibility of serious collateral damage.

But to compare that to the systematic rounding up of Jews who were shipped to concentration camps and GASSED...i dunno, I know some people ignorant but anybody who could make that comparison should go blather nonsense on the corner instead of in what should be an educated discussion.

[Mickey]

Well excuse my ignorance...fellas on the corner here I come...but first, 4000 injured in 2 weeks 900 dead  of which 300 were children in a country with a birthrate of 1000 those figures bouncing pretty close to genocide....sigh seems U need to come out on the corner and blather nonsense with me an the rest of ignorant guys cuz the jews where not the only one to suffer at the hands of a holocaust they lost 2.3 million hmm wonder who where the nex 3.7 million mayb with your infinite knowledge u can tell me I am gonna use some BIG WORDS an try an sound as educated as U "LOL what an idiot" do u even no the real meaning of the word Holocaust no retard dont wiki it, u sud no U are educated. jus so funny....it came from the greek word "holo-kauston" which means "all burnt" so to be grammatically correct when the americans bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki oh yeah it wasn't jus one area bet U didn't no, that is a holocaust cuz what the blast dont kill the heat will it "BURNS ALL IN ITS' AREA" ever hear about a shadow silhouette hmmm I can guess...no. This is what happens when nuclear energy burns outlines of object onto the ground this was found in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.....an in the modern adaptation of the word the events which took place 1994 in Rwanda was a holocaust......Hey sorry gtg the rest of my ignorant friends reach with the nip of puncheon so we are gonna do what us ignorant ppl do out on the corner to blather nonsense...ROFL

[Mickey]

Steups....Us ignorant ppl u no dey forget the cups.....the nex 3.7 million comprised of disabled and mentally ill, Gypsies, Slavs Soviet POW jus for u (Prisoners Of War), homosexuals, Freemasons, Roma and Sinti and a few others but i jus fed up type but why I put the Roma and Sinti last cuz of there oral history no ones how many they really lost....eh finally dey get the cups hope dey bring ice!!!! 

[New Era Outlaw]

*lifts index finger*


...it sucks.

[Exar_Kun]

Well excuse my ignorance...fellas on the corner here I come...but first, 4000 injured in 2 weeks 900 dead  of which 300 were children in a country with a birthrate of 1000 those figures bouncing pretty close to genocide....sigh seems U need to come out on the corner and blather nonsense with me an the rest of ignorant guys cuz the jews where not the only one to suffer at the hands of a holocaust they lost 2.3 million hmm wonder who where the nex 3.7 million mayb with your infinite knowledge u can tell me I am gonna use some BIG WORDS an try an sound as educated as U "LOL what an idiot" do u even no the real meaning of the word Holocaust no retard dont wiki it, u sud no U are educated. jus so funny....it came from the greek word "holo-kauston" which means "all burnt" so to be grammatically correct when the americans bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki oh yeah it wasn't jus one area bet U didn't no, that is a holocaust cuz what the blast dont kill the heat will it "BURNS ALL IN ITS' AREA" ever hear about a shadow silhouette hmmm I can guess...no. This is what happens when nuclear energy burns outlines of object onto the ground this was found in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.....an in the modern adaptation of the word the events which took place 1994 in Rwanda was a holocaust......Hey sorry gtg the rest of my ignorant friends reach with the nip of puncheon so we are gonna do what us ignorant ppl do out on the corner to blather nonsense...ROFL

Y'know what would've been awesome with this post? Proper formatting and punctuation. I'm tempted to post the lolwut pear and leave it at that.

But I can't help but point and laugh at a couple of your 'facts'. Such as Gaza's low birth rate.
http://www.indexmundi.com/gaza_strip/birth_rate.html
25th in the world? That must be low. Something's wrong. Their birth rate is only 1,000 for 1.4 million people according to corner man.
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=43135
Apparently this high birth rate is a real problem.

And furthermore corner man maybe if you if could apply your concentration for a short burst you'd see that on the previous page I was talking about the Chinese having suffered much worse at the hands of the Japanese than the Jews at the Nazis. But of course instead you decide to blather on about holocaust 'facts'. Pray tell, where did you get that 2.3 million figure? National Socialist websites? Because scholars seem to agree with the roughly 6 million figure. Post some sources. Even wiki says 6 million.

As for the last part of your post about the nuke...lemme find that lolwut pear.

[Mickey]

so wat u are sayin is it ppl have to many children dey sud b killed...hmm so if someone gives birth to more than 3 children put them to death cuz it will b better for society sounds great........sigh an some scholar beg to differ.....