TriniWyatt's Gaming PC

[MessiaaH]

arent u already going to upgrade your motherboard to be CF ready?

[TriniXaeno]

that depends, remember the million dollar question is this:

Which components to go with for Phase 1 and which for Phase 2.

If Phoenix recommendation is to go with the GPU first, that means Phase 1 = Video Card (s)

Not CPU/Mobo/Ram. That means I'll still be using my old mobo that ain't crossfire ready.

If I go witht the CPU/Mobo/Ram first, I won't have $$ for the GPU, so I'll be using my old ATI 4870.

Bess I play lotto today and do both phase 1 and 2 same time yes. Scoff @ that $7000 upgrade sticker price, lol

Console men does really have it easy yes. PC gaming is TOO MC EXPENSIVE.

[Netizen1]

Credit Union, wyatt, credit union...

[Redlum08]

Console men does really have it easy yes. PC gaming is TOO MC EXPENSIVE.

ROFL, you doh have to tell me twice!

[TriniXaeno]

Credit Union, wyatt, credit union...

You know one that easy to rob?

lol, ent redlum, the amount of games I could buy on steam with that TT$7000.00

Could be playing happily ever after till 2020.

[Arcmanov]

.....PC gaming is TOO MC EXPENSIVE.

PREACH brother!!!

[MessiaaH]

yea pc gaming expensive, but i dont think nobody here building ah gaming rig just to play games lol, man using dey pc to d tons of other stuff. and i am 100% sure all d console men own some sort of pc or d other. so if u dedicated to pc gaming and dont want to buy ah console, wont be so bad. since d money u spend behind a console, dump dat in yuh already needed pc, and talk done.

and d men with d more powerful pc rigs, like myself, will need dat kinda power even if dey not gaming.

so in conclusion, if u buying ah pc for d sole purpose of gaming, it makes no sense atal pricewise compared to a console. but if u buying ah gaming pc to be used for d core purpose of a pc, plus gaming, d price doesnt look dat bad. yuh spending at least 3500$ for ah shit machien in trinidad now , 45-5 fuh ah proper machine, nongaming. so if yuh building yuh own gaming rig fuh like 6-7, d extra is d price of ah console.

[TriniXaeno]

man, a bloody netbook could do all the "other stuff" I do on my PC.

The only reason I have all this power is for games. lol

If it was not for games, A old P4 2ghz with 2gb of ram and a 5900 nvidia card would take care of business, 100%

That's like a 5 year old machine right there.

[MessiaaH]

2ghz p4 :S u mad ah wah, lolol dat cyah even begin to do my wok.

windows 7 alone make dat machine cry.

d average pc user today wants, flashy shit, picture editin programs, able to watch movies / bluray, and den d basic stuff too. i eh think nobody who need ah pc today in dey right mind going to buy ah machine wiht dem specs u call there.

my argument is, a person going to buy ah pc todya, is buying ah proper pc for d times, not no old piece of crap, and add ah lil more money (d price of ah console) , and dat same machine a user was already going to buy, becomes game ready.


Dis is what a daily session with my pc involves:

100+ internet tabs opened in opera
about 10-20 tabs open in IE
Multitabbed msn convo, steam, mumble, skype,
Outlook 2010 pulling Company mail and Gmail
Download / Syncing program doing its thing.
Some tv series or d other playing on another monitor. (Bluray)
Serveral RDP Sessions open doing shit on clients network.

ALL of those things does be happening simultaneously on ah daily basis.

And when i ready to work, add these:

Websites: Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and Flash, FTP program, all running simultaneously.

Networking: Serveral VMs, visio, and ah couple excel/word docs.

The power of my rig is much needed, and i does use every ounce of it lol.

And d average user out there is not going to be satisfied with d specs u call there atal. dat machine go be running way to slow for dem.

* Tube's P4 2ghz machine *

[TriniXaeno]

wanna bet? not everyone is a power user like you.

Just looking around at my family, none of them have a machine as powerful as mine.

In fact, most of them running on integrated shit graphics with 2gb of ram. (those who have PCs). The majority have laptops. You'll laugh if you hear the specs on those.

Let me give you what their PC day looks like:

Facebook
hotmail
Watch a video
youtube
hotmail
mirosoft word
facebook
hotmail

did I mention facebook?

lol

It more than handling that. Like I said, even a shitty netbook will do the trick.

Looking at my installed apps on this pc (right now) probably the most demanding thing after the games is the virus scanner.

That's the truth.

[MessiaaH]

how old is d pc/laptops dem ppl running?

and if u go in ah store NOW to buy a machine, are u going to look for somethign with dem old parts? or buy a low end machine for d times?

To buy ah machine with p4 now, mite cost yuh more, dan buying something with ah dual core. lol

Nobody walking in ah store now, going to buy nothing with ah P4 processor in it.
It have ah reason d pc industry does stop selling parts.

So like i say, d machine an average user is going to buy for themselfs NOW, plus d price of a console, is game ready. Not everybody needs ah 4870 to run games.

Like i said in d battlefield thread, dat 8800gt machine yuh son have, is more dan capable of running gears of war, and bad comapny 2.

It dont have to look d best for it to be game ready, and those modern games, even at low settings, looks pretty dam good.

And if u spend d same money behind adding PC graphics to whatever rig yuh buying, as u do a console, d pc version will be comparible graphics wise, to d console version.

[TriniXaeno]

Most people not even buying pcs. You know why? Cause they don't need a new one. De old one doing the job.

Most sales coming from laptops and netbooks (woody hit meh some stats dey with that imba google-fu)

And plenty of those laptops and netbooks have specs shittier than what I call.

[MessiaaH]

even i own a netbook, i buy it becuase of d battery life, 10hrs,

perfect for runnin roudn by clients, and traveling. Both of which i do alot of.

But d thing slow like crap, even for d simle, web browsing, msn, and rdp session, dats basic stuff, but d thing too slow. but i NEED d battery life, dont have ah choice.

D ppl buying netbooks and laptops now, already have some sort of entertainment something going on home.


Every single person, who asked our compnay for a netbook, d first thing dey want to knwo is, if it coudl play movies. man want pc for entertainment, only now d more modern netbooks coming capable of playing d lil bluray. and dies d more expensive netbooks. d men who buying dat, not even interested in gaming. lol.

D argument is not what men buying more. d argument is

D money u spending on ah average machine now-ah-days + d price of a console = a propper gaming machine. dat is d argument.

So if somebody approach me and say, dey want to get some games for dey child. ill recomend ah pc ANY day of d week, becuase d child gets ah proper machine for shcool works and d like, one fast and nice, plus d it have tons of free pc games, plus d paid ones. Dan to buy d child ah PS3 or Xbox. I dont sell nobody ah pc again dat cant play game. fuh ah few bucks more, to make it game ready, come on.

but my same question stands.

If consoles is d way and pc so expensive to upgrade, why are u upgrading :S
Why not play Bad Company 2 on yuh ps3, why d need to buy d expenisve pc gaming rig

: Pc gaming is not expensive, pc on d whole is what expensive, d gaming part of it is quiet reasonable comapred to console for like graphics and performance.

IF all d pc makers / hardware makers, was focused on making pc parts focused at pc gamers alone, all of dem woulda be out of business long time.

Pll are buying propper pcs, not dem shit parts u calling, if man was not buying propper pcs, dey wouldnt have make dem. and dem same propper pcs man buying, add ah gpu, and talk done.

Netbooks and Laptops is juss another segment of d very lucrative pc industry.

[Prowl]

Wyatt, keep the current setup, wait till next spring and then build, by then there should be rather cheap sandybride stuff out, 7000 series ati cards and much cheaper ram.

When building you always have 2 choices, upgrade parts knowing they will still be outdated very soon, or just go for it. The good thing is vid cards and ram can normally move with you, well ddr3 ram that is. For a MOBO now 1366 is a must as the 1157 boards will be end of life year end, 1366 will last another year or so. ok so just get a 5850 ati and wait it out, or find a 6600 or a 9505 and do the quick and nasty

[TriniXaeno]

Old "Anya" still going strong but one of her components kicked the bucket this morning.

My faithful Thermaltake PurePower 600W powersupply

She had been "hard starting" for the past two weeks or so.

I'd actually have to push her button a few times to get her going.

No such luck today though. Flat line immc.

So in the market for a replacement.

As per usual, fellow Techizens, lend me your power.

Figuring I'd shoot around 700W and modular again.

Feast your eyes on this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018






What is the recommendation? Not too keen to return to the Thermaltake brand. 3 years wasn't a bad run.....but was expecting about 5.

[captainchris]

you're in luck

used 2 of those in a build alrdy

latest one was i7 950, 6gb ddr3, ati hd 5830 and 4 2tb hdds and 1 128gb ssd

it works well

all the rails were showing stable readings with load

[TriniXaeno]

Excellent.

Good enough for the captain, good enough for me.

SOLD

Should be a good partner for my gigabyte board in the not too distant future as well.

Updated the first post with my current specs:


CPU) Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6850 3GHz 1333MHz 4MB LGA775 CPU, Retail    E6850BOX   (US$262.43)

MOBO) GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L Core 2 Quad/ Intel P35/ DDR2-1066/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard    MB-P35DS3L   (US$83.62)



PSU) Omega 800W WSHB Powersupply ($Negligible...ripped out of an old PC laying around the house )


RAM) STT DDR2-800 4GB (2x2GB) Memory Kit    T800UX4GC5   (US$88.00)



GPU) EVGA Nvidia 550TI 1GB DDR3 (On loan)

[TriniXaeno]

Santa came early.


First piece of the upgrade has arrived.


GPU) Gigabyte HD 6970 2GB GDDR5

[Mez]

lol @ "super talent"

[VirtueTT]

You still running that dual core? =p

That card useless without an O/C x4 or i5