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ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2008, 03:28:20 AM »
It would appear that ATI/AMD finally hitting back with something tangible:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/23/ati_r680_the_rage_fury_maxx_2/index.html

Let's see how long this will last

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Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2008, 07:28:45 AM »
Yuh late, MERGED and keep in mind that 2x8800GTS/GTX/Ultra should beat this or match this. Seeing as the GTX and Ultra can do Tri-SLI I would say that Nvidia still holds the crown easily. However it IS a good step though.

Review here: http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Graphics-cards/ATI-Radeon-HD-3870X2-1-GB.html

Yup before the NDA's even dropped. And to quote a line from the review:
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Are the performance charts enough for you, or shall we continue with the commendations? First of all, the performance is simply phenomenal, but this card packs even more heat. This was the first time we could play Crysis as its authors meant it to be played (pun intended!) ever since it first appeared.
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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2008, 08:05:26 AM »
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ATI releases the 3450, 3470 and 3650

A little better everything

By Charlie Demerjian: Wednesday, 23 January 2008, 8:01 AM

ATI IS LAUNCHING three new GPUs today, the 3650, 3450 and 3470. If you remember their new naming scheme, you will realize that these are the low and mid range parts.

If you are expecting a huge upgrade in power and features, you are going to be slightly disappointed, most of it is refinements, a little better here, a few more boxes to check there. That isn't to say that they are not good cards, the bang for the buck is great, especially if you are looking at them for video applications. That said, the DX10 -> DX10.1 transition is not going to set many hearts aflame.

The first card, the 3650 is more of a range of products, you will see a lot of variants here. All are 55nm chips, have UVD and are fully PCIe 2.0 compliant. More importantly, they all support Hybrid Crossfire, something that may make the geek in you yawn, but the power savings modes will add a lot to a home theater box. They also have HDMI and DisplayPort natively, a huge boon to AV fanatics.

In terms of raw numbers, the 3650 will run at a core clock of 725MHz and have 256M of 800MHz GDDR3, or for value models, 500MHz DDR2 in 256/512/1024M configs. There is only the one core SKU planned, with partners getting the green light to do weird things including overclocking and playing with memory types.

These parts will replace the older 2600Pros on the shelves and for per formance, the 3650 will win by about 20%, more or less depending on application. They suck less than 75W meaning there are no PCIe power requirements, it can draw all it needs from the mobo. All this starting at $80 and moving up to $99.

The lower end 34xx is still divided up in to the low end 3450 and higher end 3470. They are similar but the 800MHz 3470 is 200MHz faster than the 3450. It also has 950MHz DDR3 vs the 500MHz DDR2 of the 3450.

Neither require a PCIe power connector, and since both are PCIe2, will consume less than the 75W a single slot provides. The main difference is that the 70 is actively cooled but the 50 can be passive. Add in that it is low profile, and you have one heck of a HD media server video card on your hands, especially at the price ranges they are talking about, $49-55 for the 50, $59-65 for the 70.

The one down side is that the 50 can do 1080p with a fair bit of ease, but the 70 can upscale that smoothly to 1440p. These cards are going to be unbeatable for video work. The major down side is that the Linux drivers do not support the AVIVO video engine, so you can avoid the malware of Vista, but you can't do so with video acceleration.

All three cards cost under $100 and come packed with features. They will play most games reasonably well, and have no equal in video processing. Everything is a little better, a little faster, and has some more features. What more could you ask for in budget cards?

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2008, 08:10:31 AM »
That Tom's aHardware link seems to have expired so here's another one from legit reviews.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/605/1/

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2008, 08:32:26 AM »
Yo capt, that's a review of a 3870... NOT the 3870 X2...

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2008, 08:03:43 AM »
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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2008, 08:20:09 AM »
ati seems to be back on top for the hour...but it seems unstable at best.

but this will be short lived...when NVIDIA releases its own dual GPU card based on two G92s.


but kudos for having the most powerful card on the planet...for the while.



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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2008, 08:56:52 AM »
By the skin of its teeth it beats the other cards. 3.5 fps more is definitely NOT something to boast about.

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2008, 09:09:28 AM »
By the skin of its teeth it beats the other cards. 3.5 fps more is definitely NOT something to boast about.
Check this naysayer!!! LMAO... yuh know if it was the other way around, man woulda be like well a win is a win blah blah blah...

Here's something to consider Capt, the ULTRA is 600+ USD and the 3870X2 has an MSRP of 500-600USD so for < money you get 3.5fps >  that IS something to boast about :p and something else to consider is when they get quadfire working even better. The 9800 GX2 isn't as elegant a solution, Nvidia seems stuck on DUAL CARDS... why not just use a single PCB? better for cooling too...

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2008, 10:29:16 AM »
LOL @ naysayer. Although I must admit the components for 2 cards on one non-rediculous sized pcb IS a feat in itself. Cudos.

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2008, 12:55:43 PM »
Yep, the man does have a point.  Pwngae performance for significantly less money.
Can't argue with that.  The dual GPU on one PCB solution is what Nvidia should have done with the 7950 GX2.
Maybe then, quad-SLI would have been more viable.
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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2008, 01:48:27 PM »
wow, W1ntry did his homework, my homework, meh son homework and the next door neighbour homework too.

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2008, 04:52:16 PM »
well havent read the propaganda spools that winny put out there  but kudos for releasing a card months after nvidia and getting 3.5fps more.... yay... a m a z a z i n g....
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*clap clap clap* ooo look at that is nviida releasing something that is gonna give maybe 20 to 30 more fps some time soon? probably... yawn

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2008, 08:31:02 AM »
Actually crixx I am really uncertain which review capt read to get a mere 3.5 fps faster cause in many of the reviews the 3870X2 trades blows with the GTX and Ultra in some cases losing and in some cases besting even the Ultra by some 30+% so no MERE 3.5FPS. Now if crixx you would read something before you open your mouth and spew the usual fanboy rubbish you'd know that :p

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2008, 09:11:02 AM »
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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2008, 04:03:47 PM »
Arcman's "hail to the king" review is the one I glanced at. Jumped to Crysis page and observed that across the board it only managed ~3fps over the 8800gt and only 1fps faster than the ultra.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2008, 04:06:18 PM by Captain Awesome »

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2008, 01:01:41 PM »
Holy Mother of PEARL!!! RED PEARLS!!!... JUST GO HERE

And a teaser pic:


That's on ONE 3870X2 Btw  :awesome: (Expect closer to 30K when QuadFire is working)

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2008, 03:25:27 PM »
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Powercolor debuts GDDR4 3870X2 boards

CeBIT 2008 Two new Theater cards as well

By Charlie Demerjian: Thursday, 06 March 2008, 1:08 PM

POWERCOLOR HAS THE some of the most advanced GPUs at CeBIT, as well as the most advanced TV cards. If you like either the vanilla 3870X2 and the Theater 550, you will love these.

What you see here is a GDDR4 based 3870X2. It has Samsung GDDR4 running of 1126MHz and they bumped the clocks to 825MHz.


Powercolor GDDR4 X2

The bridge chips is still PCIe1.0, but that will not hurt performance, all the ones out there now use it. Basically, this is going to be fast, very fast. Look for it in early April.

Things just keep looking up for the RED/GREEN camp... not the GREEN (ONLY) camp...

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Re: ati 3xxx
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2008, 01:39:38 PM »
It's not a bad time to have an DAAMIT rig:
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ATI cuts prices on the 3850 and 3870

Price warfare

By Charlie Demerjian: Wednesday, 19 March 2008, 9:25 AM

ATI IS GOING TO drop prices on the 3850 and 3870 in the next day or two. This is not a short term thing, it is a permanent cut.

The price on the 3850/512 is going to sink to $145 or below, and the 3870/512 should hit $159 or less. At that money, many may ask, why bother with the 3850?

In any case, these are screamingly good deals. You can buy three 3870s for the price of a 3870X2, or three and a mobo for less than a GX2. Not bad.

When you look at it, the COST of a quad core AMD system is gonna be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than the Intel/Nvidia equivalent.

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