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There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« on: August 15, 2007, 10:51:59 AM »
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Until I talked to Nick Bostrom, a philosopher at Oxford University, it never occurred to me that our universe might be somebody else’s hobby. I hadn’t imagined that the omniscient, omnipotent creator of the heavens and earth could be an advanced version of a guy who spends his weekends building model railroads or overseeing video-game worlds like the Sims.

But now it seems quite possible. In fact, if you accept a pretty reasonable assumption of Dr. Bostrom’s, it is almost a mathematical certainty that we are living in someone else’s computer simulation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/science/14tier.html?ei=5090&en=22bfff4070a81187&ex=1344744000

Ever since The Matrix frst came out in 1999, I wondered about this. Even up to now I wonder about it. Glad to see i'm not totally wackko.

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2007, 11:19:48 AM »
LMAO... interesting read... "nothing is as it seems...."

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2007, 12:03:58 PM »
he's a few thousand years late on that realization....

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2007, 12:16:31 PM »
42....
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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2007, 12:25:40 PM »
42....

Deep Thought got it wrong...the answer is actually 43 :lol:

It does really make you think doesn't it. If it were'nt for computers, we would not even consider that the world and everything as we know it is just part of a computer simulation. If the "posthumans" didn't want us to ever consider this being a possibility, so as not for us to blow their cover, don't you think that they would have stopped us from inventing the computer altogether? Then again, even now that we have the computer and we speculate that the world is a simulation, we are still no where near close to proving/disproving that theory...

Hmmmmm......
« Last Edit: August 15, 2007, 12:32:22 PM by The_Unknown »

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2007, 12:30:34 PM »
hehe...I always think the same thing...

I figured...if at some point in the future people did invent time travel or something of the sort..they could manipulate this day and age...
or create this world...

that we live and die in...or probably when we die we'll wake up on in Robot City or something looking like Cybertron...

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2007, 12:32:35 PM »
I've thought this since before the matrix. But we might not specifically be a program or a simulation in terms of what we comprehend them to be. But ultimately someone else's artificial construct who might in turn be someone else's artificial construct. Perhaps even just the thought of some magnificent extra-universal entity.
What can you do to end the hunger?
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When there is no grain to feed the butchered cows
When there is nothing to feed yourselves...
Then you will see that money can't be eaten.

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2007, 01:03:24 PM »
hmmm so if we are in the matrix.......wait, side thought - is Osama really Morpheus ?  :ko:   Anyways...If we really are in the Matrix or jacked into some world while we are used as a duracel...2 questions arise - 1 what kind of duracel are you and 2 how do we get out.  Imagine if you could really run out of the matrix like in 'world record' in animatrix...this is to much to contemplate right about now.

Ok seriously now...This world being the Matrix...you think there are humans that escaped ? And if there are which pill would you choose. Are you even ready for the shock in being told the truth ?  The Matrix is alot to swallow in one day...even if it is real, what can we do about it. How do you know to search for the one or for a morpheus...where do you look and what are you looking for. I guess if you really believe there is something more to this world, you go in search of something more...if you find it or not...well that's a choice you already made...now its just to understand why you made that choice.
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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2007, 01:35:23 PM »
I'd not leave. I mean...why bother?

Perception is reality.
What can you do to end the hunger?
It's no surprise that many will die with the coming shortage of food
When there is no grain to feed the butchered cows
When there is nothing to feed yourselves...
Then you will see that money can't be eaten.

-The Locust

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2007, 05:47:19 PM »
I'd not leave. I mean...why bother?

Perception is reality.
unless of course all the evil in this world was created as some sort of entertainment and there truly isnt such things in the "real world". And as for leaving out pcs i seriously doubt they would not simulate it because they would like to see what the simulations come up with lol.
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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2007, 06:04:52 PM »
I'd not leave. I mean...why bother?

Perception is reality.

According to Cypher, ignorance is bliss.

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2007, 07:57:49 PM »
I'd not leave. I mean...why bother?

Perception is reality.
I agree.

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2007, 12:36:09 PM »
But even if we are all some sort of construct or simulation then why is it that ppl seem to be drawing such a limited perspective as to identify with the plot from the matrix movies? I mean for all we know, the human/alien race obliterated itself and this 'simulation' is all that's left of a civilization. No life, just code running on computers left for all eternity... or perhaps our idea of a computer is misaligned and we're all actually part of a collection SINGULARITY... an entity that is so complex that we all run around in its single 'brain'... when we die its cause he/she/it 'forgot' us or has reached the end of thinking about us...

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2007, 12:59:50 PM »
Shiz all yuh men gonna make my head explode
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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2007, 04:36:23 PM »
But even if we are all some sort of construct or simulation then why is it that ppl seem to be drawing such a limited perspective as to identify with the plot from the matrix movies? I mean for all we know, the human/alien race obliterated itself and this 'simulation' is all that's left of a civilization. No life, just code running on computers left for all eternity... or perhaps our idea of a computer is misaligned and we're all actually part of a collection SINGULARITY... an entity that is so complex that we all run around in its single 'brain'... when we die its cause he/she/it 'forgot' us or has reached the end of thinking about us...

Yep...as I said. We can all be just a single "thought". There's a figurative universe of possibilities limited by our imaginations and our understanding of this universe's physics.

The one thing we do know...is that we don't know. We can only believe.
What can you do to end the hunger?
It's no surprise that many will die with the coming shortage of food
When there is no grain to feed the butchered cows
When there is nothing to feed yourselves...
Then you will see that money can't be eaten.

-The Locust

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2007, 09:52:14 PM »
study this, maybe just maybe this is true and that the person who created us is GOD! thanks God!
If automobiles had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside." -- Robert Cringely

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Re: There's a 20% chance we could be living in the matrix
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2007, 02:50:28 AM »
Man all this matrix crap can suck my left one. Just live yuh effin life tuh de fullest so what if iz ah mc simulation.


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