Yu Gi Oh

[TheApprentice]

^well the guy did ask a question...

much appreciated although i would hate for them to do this with yugioh card game i sold all my cards. I got angry when all my rare cards got common versions and everyone could get them so all the money i spent on cards was wasted

Yea dred..that had piss me off! I had mirror force and a whole set of great cards... and then they make dem common???
thise why i stop with yugioh... it was fun while it lasted...

fellas i plannin to buy sum decks wen i go NYork in august...where can i get them to buy

basically any toy store...check the big toys r us up there....
pick up a ps3 too..lol


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Anywayz...Imagine they restart the yu-gi-oh franchise with the ps3..and by implementing that...you have to buy these new booster packs with special cards for the game...

you think that wud work?
I might might not... takepart anywayz...

[EmpireKing]

PS3...haha......

i buyin ah 360 and a wii

[kiya]

You know i would realy love to try this with ygo though The Eye of Judgement looks cool too. But(and i know some one shaking their head) i think they should use this tecknology to make something for the ygo tcg for itself! I mean i cant see myself buyin a ps3 just for the eye of judgemet/ygo for d ps3. But then even if i did i'd have to buy over all my cards unless they set up something for u to trade in ur old cards for the new ones.

[BloodWar]

You know i would realy love to try this with ygo though The Eye of Judgement looks cool too. But(and i know some one shaking their head) i think they should use this tecknology to make something for the ygo tcg for itself! I mean i cant see myself buyin a ps3 just for the eye of judgemet/ygo for d ps3. But then even if i did i'd have to buy over all my cards unless they set up something for u to trade in ur old cards for the new ones.

they wouldnt set up a trade it would cost them too much unless they make it like $5 us dollars per card no matter what the rarity. If that were the case alot of people would just organize thier rare cards or entire deck. But chances are making a card with a code in it wouldnt happen due to the mass amount of cards already circulating. And even if they did make it the $5 exchange if u wanted your deck 5 x 40 us dollars? $200 thats quite a cost.

[SPK]

...Which is why I always said that for such a system, a combination of an OCR reader to pick up the number code for each card, as well as an authentication reader, which checks for the Eye Of Anubis holofoil design on the bottom right hand corner, so that it can be used as a result. However, games like these depend on a database of cards in the system, so it may not be able to natively handle newer cards....however, with that said....patches can be implemented, updates for the database etc...it could work, but would Konami be willing to put in such an effort is a whole other ball park.

Oh and I have a lil rant here for Bloodwar, given how I am a longtime player of the game, and one of the more knowledgeable people in the country with regards to this game...

Selling out your cards cuz they later came out common is one LAME-@ssed excuse! I have goodness how many holo cards, and I was glad to get the common as well, means that if anything happens to the holos, I not gonna completely die, plus I can always use the commons to duel with if I so wish, and preserve the holos from undergoing damage due to gameplay.

Depending on the card, it can still be worth a good chunk of change, for the people that want to get the harder to find version of the card. Given how the old sets are out of print, it will be nearly impossible for new players to get into the game, and there are still new players that are coming into the game! The last tournament I hosted had 6 new players, after all this time that people have been playing.

And then that begged the question, why did you even get the cards in the first place? To use it or to sell? If you wanted it to use, it should have no effect as to what happened later. Having cards come out in an easier to locate form was one of the best things done for the game - it ensured that it no longer always meant that the person with the deepest pockets would have the best chance at winning.

Oh, and theApprentice, Raigeki is banned, but Mirror Force is not. Cards are usually cycled on and off the list, with some exceptions that are too powerful with little or no real drawback or cost to speak of. Also, Mirror Force was never made common in the TCG (English for those not familiar with the reference), the lowest rarity was Super Rare (Dark Beginnings 2). In any case, those cards are also banned because 'fairer' equivalent cards were released later on, so that they were not as drastic in terms of what one single card can do.

Those who think that there is no more fun in Yu-Gi-Oh, needs to come out to a tournament or two, or heck, sometimes even during the week in UWI, there are usually guys there playing, often with decks that aren't the 'conventional' type, showing how lesser considered decks can actually work.

I've heard many reasons about people quitting the game, but reasons like that I consider to be complete and utter bull!

[BloodWar]

OH i didnt read that whole thing too long but i know your point, but you know what i never gave a crap about collecting to me a hollow is same as common because i only use them for dueling. So when i catch my ass to get cards like swords of revealing light, pot of greed and Vampire Lord and then they release them as commons and any noob could get them that is a damned good reason to quit. I catch my ass to make a badass deck and then some noob just buy some starters and have same cards as me? thats beyond Bull and Ive never seen why i should continue dueling after this.

[SPK]

lol....then it shows that you then have to rely on deck construction and ability to calculate on the fly to be able to play, not just be able to simply overpower the player cuz they don't have the cards. Also, if they didn't remake them, there would be a severe limit in the number of new players that can get into the game.

Plus now, if you want to get back into the game, it certainly would be easier now no?

[BloodWar]

lol....then it shows that you then have to rely on deck construction and ability to calculate on the fly to be able to play, not just be able to simply overpower the player cuz they don't have the cards. Also, if they didn't remake them, there would be a severe limit in the number of new players that can get into the game.

Plus now, if you want to get back into the game, it certainly would be easier now no?

nah i cool with video games all i sayin if they was doin this do it from start and dont make me waste all my money and then do it. The fact is that they made me waste all my money to do this and its complete bull. From the way you sounding u look like you never spend no kinda money on yugioh and you just chill or now getting into it.

[SPK]

From the way you sounding u look like you never spend no kinda money on yugioh and you just chill or now getting into it.

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*waits for NEO or any active duelist to see this statement, and eagerly await their response, I not even gonna bother about this one myself....*

[BloodWar]

once again I'm shocked to see statements that seem to imply peope think we got mainly n00bs on our site.

Lemme take you back a few years Bloodwar, there were no Pegasus or Joey structured decks, there were only 3 different types Booster packs were Legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon, Metal Raiders and Magic Rulers. Most of GATT at the time were early adopters, in fact almost all the entrants in the first ever anime city YUGIOH tournament were GATT associated.
Everyone of us had our own methods of buying in order to get rares, i used a sensitive electronic scale to weigh the packs before i bought them (ultra rares and secret rares were about .1g heavier than common cards) some guys like Diablo and Destroyer used to buy like 8 booster packs a week ( i thought that was dumb, but say what), long story short, think twice before you even consider for a nanosecond that anyone here is 'new' to yugioh, especially SPK, he was an early adotper from the very beginning along with several of his clansmen such as Papasmurf, Death, Talon, Satiyo and the other guys from clan Zetsukimon (just my name for them btw). And since i think a few of them are still in the game actively, i'm willing to bet that they have spent quite a considerable amount of money on card over the years.

Well his words are rediculous because when u spend so much money for something to make your deck better and then they release it so that everyone can get it easy and cheap how can he say that its just because i dont want them have a deck as good as me. Thats ridiculous in fact if they were to give me back all my money i spent to get those rares and let me buy the commons id prolly wouldnt have sold my cards and you gotta be made of money to not have a problem with what they did.

[BloodWar]

just continue printing just as they started and make the newcommers work to get their cards too

[SPK]

Unfortunately, that outlook doesn't work on the part of Konami and associates, whose intention is to keep making money.

Printing older sets is highly impractical, since there are now so many new sets coming out, for a new player to get started will be a very difficult task. If they left it as such, then upcoming players would not necessarily look to buy the older sets, being in this game as long as I have, when a set comes out, purchases of such sets drops after a few months, so if they keep printing the older sets, it will come down to a point where they will have a great excess in stock, and that isn't profitable to them.

As a result, they look to reprint certain cards, with the intention of allowing players to get into the game easily for a basic deck, and then when it comes to fine-tuning it, they can look for cards from newer sets, thus ensuring sales for those more recent releases, ensuring that a profit is made from each release.

Your argument is like saying that when a new high-end video card comes out, it stays at a certain price for a length of time, and then when newer video cards are released, just because you paid x amount of dollars for the card, that it shouldn't be made with cheaper versions to allow more people to be able to afford it. Would you then demand that they give you back your money for the card, in order to get a cheaper one?

It's not like they made the set one month and then reprinted the next month, they usually have a certain period of time before they consider to reprint cards, and even then, sometimes the reprints are just as hard to find as the original cards, plus some reprints are to give them a HIGHER rarity than what was available before. Example - I'm sure you would have been accostomed to seeing cards like Pyramid Turtle, typically common or rare card, and has been recently reprinted in a holographic version (Champion Pack 2), so they try to appeal to both sides - get certain cards that are hard to find, in a simpler to find method for those who now trying to get into the game, but also take certain non-holographic cards, and are making them into holo versions, for players who WANT to have nicer looking cards.

As how you said that reprinting got you out of the game, there are many players who didn't WANT to get into the game because it was too expensive to even build a somewhat competitive deck in the first place, but reprinting got them in. Konami will then look at it from that aspect - reprint a get a few people with sour grapes out of the game (whom most likely were settled with their deck and not overly interested in new cards), but also get new players into the game, who would be more willing to put out money to get more updated cards....

If the money was that hard for you to even put out to get the cards in the first place, why not do without? That's what I did, instead of trying to move along with everybody else in trying to hunt down cards to make my deck 'OMGMYDECKIZL33TANDALLPOWERFULBOWBEFOREMELOLZZZZZZ', I just looked for ways to get around it, and when I could get cards that I could use eventually, I was able to get it, just live within your means.

[BloodWar]

yeah but i was at a point where only thing i spent money on really was yugioh and id save up for boosters and now it really sucks to see all my money go to waste and id rather stop playing than see this happen again. And if the printing of old packs wont work why not make new boosters with rares like pot of greed, swords of revealing light etc. and aside from the older rares put only new cards.

[SPK]

Well actually, that in itself is done. An example of that is Dark Beginning 1 & 2 - Pot Of Greed actually came out in a Super Rare version, and there were reprints of old holos like Change Of Heart, Snatch Steal etc, all still at holographic versions, but also included cards that were not available before in English. If you are so worried about losing out on money, it helps to do research online for upcoming sets, see what's coming out in the near future, so if you wanted to make back your money, sell the specific cards before the reprints are released, chances are that you'd get them for a good price still, and then get the reprinted cards to use for yourself.

[BloodWar]

Well actually, that in itself is done. An example of that is Dark Beginning 1 & 2 - Pot Of Greed actually came out in a Super Rare version, and there were reprints of old holos like Change Of Heart, Snatch Steal etc, all still at holographic versions, but also included cards that were not available before in English. If you are so worried about losing out on money, it helps to do research online for upcoming sets, see what's coming out in the near future, so if you wanted to make back your money, sell the specific cards before the reprints are released, chances are that you'd get them for a good price still, and then get the reprinted cards to use for yourself.

yeah but i start yugioh when it had lik 4 boosters and at this point there was never any talk about something like this and this is just one of them things that when u get vex with it u dont bother with it again. I gonna stick to the video games from now on as it doesnt cost any money to buy cards.

[New Era Outlaw]

So when i catch my ass to get cards like swords of revealing light, pot of greed and Vampire Lord and then they release them as commons and any noob could get them that is a damned good reason to quit.

Oh, HELL NO.
No offense, Bloodwar, but that's a very lousy reason to quit the game.

Just because the cards became more accessible to people doesn't mean you should turn tail and bolt because 'any noob can get them'. On the contrary, you should view this as a challenge- now that several people have the cards to make their decks stand a chance in tournaments, you now have the opportunity to test against decks that are just as powerful as yours.

As a matter of fact, saying, "Now that any noob can get the powerful holo cards that I scrimped and saved for!" is tantamount to saying, "I was good at this game because I had money to buy good cards!" and "It's not fair! Poor people shouldn't be allowed to be as good as me!" You have to understand, while, yes, it is disheartening to see cards you scrimped and saved for become as common as sand in the Gobi Desert, it's also a very selfish way of thinking. It passes off a lot as somebody who doesn't think people who can't afford their precious holo cards deserving to even have them in any form, whatsoever.

When Needle Worm came out as a common after I spent so much money getting the tournament pack version, did you see me cuss the game and quit? No. When anybody could casually pick up a Morphing Jar nowadays, one of the most prized cards in my deck back in the day that took me a while to afford, did I quit? No. All I saw it as is a case of people stepping up in their own game by any means necessary, and I had to adjust to suit. In any case, having those cards as commons means virtually nothing, because there are still quite a few people who go after the holo versions of them.

Well, your reasons are your own for leaving the game. Personally, it's not a very good reason in my opinion, but hey. Whatever floats your boat. Just remember that all people deserve a chance in any game, and just because the broken cards that they needed badly to win games became a bit more reachable to them, doesn't mean you shouldn't be happy that they're now just as fortunate as you are and can actually give you a run for your money.

[BloodWar]

no problem but im not getting the money i spent back so if they did this earlier i probably wouldnt have a problem but i aint rich i had to save up alot to get those cards. And yes if u want to know i sold my ultra/secret rare cards to " collectors " so i did get a good bit of money back but the amount of money i spent on boosters before i actually got one is more.