The Snake versus the Shadow

[Crixx_Creww]

no it wont, that is just an example of the uberness of sam fisher

sams bazillion planes with bombs is equal to snake running along a missle fired at him and then firing back a missle at his enemy... real world physics?? RIGHTTTT

HOW MANY REALLLLL COMMANDOS HIDE IN MC CARDBOARD BOXES??

[New Era Outlaw]

The same that would want to preserve their lives and/or secrecy in dire situations, perhaps?

Oh WAIT. Let's rush in head first so that the guards can kill the hostages or blow my cover, hence jeopardising my current mission and making me look like an incompetent a**, LOL.

Let's face it, Crixx. You seriously have nothing to go by.

If you wanted to prove that Sam could take out Snake, you seriously failed, because now you're fighting down the point that he MUST call in an air strike to handle it, instead of handling his problem by himself in a one-on-one fight. Also, it says volumes that everybody but you in this thread is supporting Snake, and not ONE man leapt in to support you as yet. And even self, you're not even defending Sam Fisher good, because you're fighting your points out of sheer ignorance and denial of what people are telling you.

[Crixx_Creww]

no no no, its not a MUST
its just something within his air power to do
if he didnt feel like missing todays episode of south park just to take out that noob snake, he COULD call in an air strike.


snake is a stealth noob lets face it, he knows nothing about shadows
sam just way to gunta for him, sam de kinda man dat go be limin in a room with liek 50 laventile vex men and dey wouldnt even know someone else was dere cause he go be limin in de shadow of the crixx tin in de corner of de room

where as dey would find dat card board box suspicious, since it have deliver to sanfernando office and not laventile office on it.

[Red Paradox]

LMAO! It's good to actually agree with NEO with something

[New Era Outlaw]

Er. Crixx? Ever play Metal Gear Solid 2? Especially the mission where Snake, oh, I dunno.


SNEAKS INTO A ROOM WITH OVER 100 GUARDS WITH NOTHING BUT BOXES TO HIDE BEHIND?

And lest we forget, the room was in complete darkness, too. You can succeed in hiding in the shadows to avoid being seen by the guards. And all of this WHILE taking pictures of the newest Metal Gear.

Oh, and about that point about Sam hiding in the shadows of a Crix tin ?
If you can't do it in the games that he's in, then how can you just assume that he can?
Is he some sort of shapeshifter, or something? How can Sam even hide in the shadow of something 10 times smaller than him? Show me a screenshot of him hiding behind an object much, MUCH smaller than him, and I'll fold this one. Guaranteed, you won't find jack.

Seriously, stop making up points. If all you could do is come up with imaginary arguments supported by Naruto and all things impossible, then seriously, STOP. You're only making yourself sound like a serious noob.




Point PWNED. NEXT!

[AR!Ø]

So to summarise : Sam Fisher of Splinter Cell fame CANNOT survive in an area where shadows are absent
whereas Snake is able to HALO jump into a jungle, swim thru a leech infested lake, fall down a cliff into a cave, survive, climb out d cave, walk thru miles of sewers after gettin he mc eye shoot out....etc., etc., and could still find d time to form a nation for homeless soldiers (and only get beat by HIS OWN CLONE some 20+ years later)

[Red Paradox]

yeah...something like that.....

[Crixx_Creww]

damn yu flip for having another super duper elisha pic! omfg look at her!!


right now back to the topic
there is no place where shadows arent present, so deal with that.
Secondly, neo yu dissin my use of shadow as a way for sam to beat  snake anf telling me to get some evidence to support it, but where is de evidence that snake could beat sam??

I keep saying that his stupid box tactic is useless against Sam but yet still iam supposed to beleive that some how some way hes gonna come do this cqc thing on super killer sam?>

^^ and wat kimimaru boy up there says about snake just proves even MOREE how unrealistic snake is, so if this fight NOT gonna be realistic then i could MC USE MC SHADOWS ANY WHICH MC WAY I PLEASE!!

[New Era Outlaw]

No offense, Crixx, but you seriously debate like a 3 year old.

If you dislike the way I'm dissing shadows, then all you've got to do is prove Sam Fisher can dodge in the shadows in the way you describe. The way we describe Snake as such is because he actually is capable of doing those things in the game, when he does make an appearance. Just up and saying that Sam Fisher can "hide behind the shadow of a Crix tin in a room full of 50 angry Laventille men" without him being able to do so at all in any canon game is like saying Batman can turn into a bat with eye beams "just cause I said so."


In that respect Crixx, just because you say Sam could do all of those things, does not mean that he can. But each and everything we say Snake can do, Snake actually can do in the games. So, prove Sam can do what you say he can do, and we'd believe you. Savvy?


And Crixx, all of us, in our posts, have posted at least one point where Snake would beat out Sam. Points you yourself chose to blatantly ignore in each of your posts while you go off on a rant about "SNAKE IN BOX = LOSE! SAM FISHER + NARUTO LOGIC = WIN! LOLOLOLOLOL"

And you're acting as if it's only a box Snake knows how to use.
Snake has access to explosives, various guns and ammo, a muscle relaxant to help him steady his aim with long range weapons, as well as close range weapons such as a combat knife. Lest we forget, if survival is the name of the game, Snake can live off of the land, proving his sheer resourcefulness, and also that, unlike Sam, he does not rely on shadows or technology to be efficient. Ponder on THAT.


Jesus Christ. I'm all for persistence, but LORD. Throw in the towel, already. When it comes to hard evidence to back yourself up, people to actually support your claims, and even simple logic and what is fact, Crixx.....you got OWNED.

[AR!Ø]

lol sorry bout the unrealistic-ness, but that fight u hadda throw down with Mr. H. Kojima (the real stealth god)...Japanese  game designer beats NAVY Admiral dude any day ( Tom Clancy) Oh yeah lets also remember that these 2 dudes r fictional characters who may (or may not) have no business to be in d shadows of lavantille...and that snake does have some level of respect for sam, as he suggested that he be replaced by sam or gabe (logan) for the top secret monkey trapping mission...i would still have picked gabe tho