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« on: February 01, 2005, 08:09:24 AM »
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Steam comes out of Half Life 2 players' ears

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By Wil Harris: Monday 31 January 2005, 06:21

RECENT DOWNTIMERecent downtime on Valve's Steam Subscriber service has caused aggravation for Counter Strike players and increased calls for a change in the way Half Life 2 authenticates its single-player mode.

Currently, players of Half-Life 2 must log in to the Steam service when playing single player. If the service is down, Half-Life goes with it.

The downtime is just another episode in the ongoing soap opera that accompanies the game management system. Accounts bought with stolen credit cards have been hocked on eBay, and the auction house won't offer purchase protection because no physical goods have changed hands. The Steam forums are littered with tales of account hacking, and once your account it gone, it's very difficult indeed to get back. Various email scams along the lines of bank phishing schemes attempt to get players to disclose their account details, and if you fall foul to one of these, you're screwed too.

Complaints have been made about the poor service that is being offered to those with reasonable complaints. If a customer buys a copy of HL2 off the shelf, and finds that the CDKey that comes with the game has already been hacked, he can expect to wait a stunning two weeks for a solution, according to this FAQ answer.

Bought HL2, finished it and want to sell it on? You can forget about exercising your ownership rights without limitation, because Valve will charge you $10 to change it.

Whether or not any of this is actually legal is something that many forumites are currently trying to unscramble. Nothing about Steam is mentioned on the retail package of the game, and we all know that retailers won't take back opened PC games. The lock on transferring of ownership of a game is another questionable legal area, since if ownership is not absolute - and Valve seem to be saying that it isn't - this is not noted anywhere in the license agreement or on the game's packaging. Indeed, not a word is mentioned of Steam in the user agreement for Half Life 2, suggesting that the compulsion to use it, and the failure of Valve to provide an alternative activation method, could mean that Valve are in contravention of their own license agreement.

Sometimes it is difficult to know whether Steam of HL2 has generated more column inches, but we know for sure that there are plenty more inches of both to come.

Yes folks I too am one who greatly dislikes steam.. did I mention I still haven't played HL2 inspite of it being on my machine for over a month now...                    

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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2005, 08:12:37 AM »
then i sorry for you because you missing out on one of the best games ever. poor you :(                    

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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2005, 10:40:20 PM »
steam has never 'burned me' , once i lost my original half life cd after a format and thanks to steam i didn't NEED it to download the whole game package , and once you DO register half life II you don't need to log  on the net to play it .
  come now wintry you won't take the trouble to drag your machine down to a cafe? or to dial that expensive a** TSTT dialup internet access  thing for the best game ever ?

  STEAM rox , ISPs and broadband penetration/prices suck .                      
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2005, 08:45:25 AM »
I could easily (thats relative) drag my rig to work as we have our own broadband connection, however I am appauled at the idea that I would HAVE to RESORT to that kinda thing. Besides my rig is well into the 40+ lbs weight catergory, you really think i want to drag that from south to curepe JUST to activate a KMA game, no thanx, steam sucks @$$.                    

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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2005, 09:46:08 AM »
yeah it sucks big time                    

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2005, 01:34:23 PM »
I like steam and would love to see more gaming companies embracing the system, since its circumventing import duties, high shipping costs and censorship in certain countries.

Yes, it's not perfect and has it's flaws and I also experienced annoying downtimes. The resell issue that was mentioned in the article is imho violating European law and is supposed to be already under investigation - still it's a system worth supporting.

If I get the opportunity to download the game at a lower price than the retail box (online distribution is supposed to be a lot less expensive) , say 39 US instead of 49 US - I can't see why it should be bad.                    
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2005, 02:08:50 PM »
Whilst I know that the steam system is a bold attempt to reduce the effects of copied games whilst gaining marketing information and general other info about ur product I think there should be some sort of facility for ppl that have limited access to the internet. Maybe a activation software that could be mailed to those who purchased teh game in retail stores a simple flash USB device even that would activate teh game. It would add a lil cost but I would prefer to pay the extra and have the ability to play MY game that I BOUGHT WHENEVER and WHEREVER I BLOODY well choose to without having the neccessity of internet access.                    

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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2005, 02:42:04 PM »
maybe they should've added some sort of telephone or fax activation for retail boxes. Perhaps something similar to the winxp activation method.
I'm quite sure though that valve is going to improve their service over time
                     
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2005, 02:42:04 PM »

 


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