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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« on: June 15, 2004, 04:51:11 PM »
I've looked into mini-itx solutions. Mini-ITX with the Via CPUs are very
slow and not worth the effort for the price.. the Board & CPU (typically
  1GHz, but cant pentium III 1GHz for performance) are more than the
cost of a Micro ATX board and Celeron 2.0GHZ CPU- you are really paying
for the small size. If you have no real requirement for a small form
factor PC dont bother with the Mini-ITX, its too expensive for the
performance.

Kerry

Ansar Mohammed wrote:
> for most of us in IT we like to have several computers.. running various
> OSes for various reasons..
>
> The Mini-ITX form factor is an excellent solution for low power, quiet
> and cost effective PCs.
>
> Recently I got my hands on one of these PCs.. basically the size of an
> external CD ROM, with:
> 20 GB disk, USB 2.0, onboard video, sound and ethernet.. very cool..
>
> http://www.travla.com/Products/c136/c136.html
>
> PRW sells mini-itx but they are much bigger than these.
>
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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« on: June 15, 2004, 04:51:11 PM »

Anonymous

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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2004, 05:16:45 PM »
No arguement there. They do not perform very well when compared to a
2Ghz + proc. My model has a 533 Mhz processor and 128 MB RAM. What you
are paying for is size, low power, low heat and the quiet..



Kerry Panchoo wrote:

>I've looked into mini-itx solutions. Mini-ITX with the Via CPUs are very
>slow and not worth the effort for the price.. the Board & CPU (typically
>  1GHz, but cant pentium III 1GHz for performance) are more than the
>cost of a Micro ATX board and Celeron 2.0GHZ CPU- you are really paying
>for the small size. If you have no real requirement for a small form
>factor PC dont bother with the Mini-ITX, its too expensive for the
>performance.
>
>Kerry
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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2004, 07:33:42 AM »
How big is your monitor now?

Else you might as well go for an iMac. Small, quiet, low power consumption
and heat generation. Oh, and it takes a noraml IDE HDD.

The combined footprint and size of the mini pc and monitor is more than that
of the mac :-)

*yawn ... Hehe .. Mac user for yuh
-Tariq

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No arguement there. They do not perform very well when compared to a
2Ghz + proc. My model has a 533 Mhz processor and 128 MB RAM. What you
are paying for is size, low power, low heat and the quiet..



Kerry Panchoo wrote:

>I've looked into mini-itx solutions. Mini-ITX with the Via CPUs are
>very
>slow and not worth the effort for the price.. the Board & CPU (typically
>  1GHz, but cant pentium III 1GHz for performance) are more than the
>cost of a Micro ATX board and Celeron 2.0GHZ CPU- you are really paying
>for the small size. If you have no real requirement for a small form
>factor PC dont bother with the Mini-ITX, its too expensive for the
>performance.
>
>Kerry
>
>




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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2004, 10:33:20 AM »
Err to each his own.... If you think $1500-$2000  TT for a mini-itx
system is expensive... lol then what would you call an apple??

Tariq Khan wrote:

>How big is your monitor now?
>
>Else you might as well go for an iMac. Small, quiet, low power consumption
>and heat generation. Oh, and it takes a noraml IDE HDD.
>
>The combined footprint and size of the mini pc and monitor is more than that
>of the mac :-)
>
>*yawn ... Hehe .. Mac user for yuh
>-Tariq
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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2004, 03:05:07 PM »
I second this, in my exprience the C3 chips performs poorly under Linux for any
"near to real time" applications. Having lots services/apps running while in
X may the system unresponsive and unusable. However, these proccessors perform
reasonably well under XP. The better option is still the Mirco-ATX with a
Celeron processor.

Dunstan


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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:39:30 -0400
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Subject: Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs

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I've looked into mini-itx solutions. Mini-ITX with the Via CPUs are very <BR>
slow and not worth the effort for the price.. the Board & CPU (typically <BR>
  1GHz, but cant pentium III 1GHz for performance) are more than the <BR>
cost of a Micro ATX board and Celeron 2.0GHZ CPU- you are really paying <BR>
for the small size. If you have no real requirement for a small form <BR>
factor PC dont bother with the Mini-ITX, its too expensive for the <BR>
performance.<BR>
<BR>
Kerry<BR>
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Ansar Mohammed wrote:<BR>
> for most of us in IT we like to have several computers.. running various <BR>
> OSes for various reasons..<BR>
> <BR>
> The Mini-ITX form factor is an excellent solution for low power, quiet <BR>
> and cost effective PCs.<BR>
> <BR>
> Recently I got my hands on one of these PCs.. basically the size of an <BR>
> external CD ROM, with:<BR>
> 20 GB disk, USB 2.0, onboard video, sound and ethernet.. very cool..<BR>
> <BR>
> <a href="http://www.travla.com/Products/c136/c136.html">http://www.travla.com/Products/c136/c136.html[/url]<BR>
> <BR>
> PRW sells mini-itx but they are much bigger than these.<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2004, 03:05:07 PM »

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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2004, 04:00:11 PM »
Oh, ok .. That cheap it is eh? Well then, that's a good price. Worth it if u
looking for small power. One nics or two ? I thinking > cheap proxy server
or router for home. No monitor needed there!

-TK

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs


Err to each his own.... If you think $1500-$2000  TT for a mini-itx
system is expensive... lol then what would you call an apple??

Tariq Khan wrote:

>How big is your monitor now?
>
>Else you might as well go for an iMac. Small, quiet, low power
>consumption and heat generation. Oh, and it takes a noraml IDE HDD.
>
>The combined footprint and size of the mini pc and monitor is more than
>that of the mac :-)
>
>*yawn ... Hehe .. Mac user for yuh
>-Tariq
>
>
>




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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2004, 04:08:25 PM »
Where you could buy this in trinidad?  I r curious.  Saw C3s in PRW ONCE.  Never again since then.

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Oh, ok .. That cheap it is eh? Well then, that's a good price. Worth it if u
looking for small power. One nics or two ? I thinking > cheap proxy server
or router for home. No monitor needed there!

-TK

-----Original Message-----
From: Ansar Mohammed [mailto:ansarm@vistapark.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 10:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs


Err to each his own.... If you think $1500-$2000  TT for a mini-itx
system is expensive... lol then what would you call an apple??

Tariq Khan wrote:

>How big is your monitor now?
>
>Else you might as well go for an iMac. Small, quiet, low power
>consumption and heat generation. Oh, and it takes a noraml IDE HDD.
>
>The combined footprint and size of the mini pc and monitor is more than
>that of the mac :-)
>
>*yawn ... Hehe .. Mac user for yuh
>-Tariq
>
>
>




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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2004, 08:41:28 PM »
Nowhere..
the only source is online, the price runs between $250 and $300USD
depending on your components and quantity.
If we can get enough people interested we can probably buy enough to
drop the price to $250 for a decent spec..


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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2004, 08:48:27 PM »
If you are seriously interested in this sort of technology you can look
at these products:

http://www.soekris.com/products.htm
Very nice if you want embeded linux or freeBSD

Also you can look at the PC 104 Architecture..
http://www.pc104.com/whatis.html


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Tariq Khan wrote:

>Oh, ok .. That cheap it is eh? Well then, that's a good price. Worth it if u
>looking for small power. One nics or two ? I thinking > cheap proxy server
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Re: [TTLUG] X-Post: Mini-ITX form factor PCs
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2004, 08:48:27 PM »

 


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