Need advice on pci vid card

[Crixx_Creww]

Ok awhile ago i informed some people that i was lookin for a grafix card buh i had de predicament of no free agp slots.

So after some nice pricewatch searching ive decided i may spend about 200 dollars and upgrade my system to a point where i can actually play games like halo or even MOHAA for pete's sake.
(i cah play mohaa, sof2 , cs, nothing like that on my current system thanks to this dell intel nonsensical crappy ass chipset they have installed)

SOoooooo these are the upgrades iam going to make

Current                                Upgrade                COST
P3-733 mhz 133                P3-1.13 ghz 133.        $69
SD 256mb @133                  SD 512 @133           $31


and de final piece is de pci grafix card i found
i need advice on whether this is a decent card and worth the $70

ASYLUM SPECIAL EDITION! 2X the memory and over 10% faster than standard FX 5200 series.*
Specifications
• GPU: NVIDIA® GeForce™ FX 5200
• Bus Type AGP or PCI
• Memory 256MB
• *Core Clock 280MHz (vs. standard 250MHz)
• RAMDAC Dual 350MHz
• API Support DirectX, OpenGL for windows
• Connectors VGA, S-Video out
• 70 million vertices/sec.

Features at a Glance
• Up to 4 pixels per clock rendering engine
• Up to 16 textures per pass
• Digital Vibrance Control™ 3.0
• Microsoft® DirectX ® 9.0 with Vertex Shader 2.0
and Pixel Shader 2.0
• Z – correct bump mapping
Included in Box
• Asylum GeForce FX 5200 graphics card
• Quick Install manual
Driver CD, which includes;
• NVIDIA® unified drivers
• NVIDIA® GeForce™ FX and GeForce™4 demos
• Full installation manual .pdf
• NVIDIA® NVDVD™ 2.0 multimedia software
• Windowblinds™ BFG / Asylum Skins                    

[Crixx_Creww]

Also found this gforce Fx 5200
Controller   nVidia GeForceFX 5200
Bus Type   PCI
Memory   128MB DDR
RAMDAC   350 MHz
Memory Clock   333MHz
Engine Clock   250 MHz
Monitors Supported   Single
Max Resolution   1600 x 1200
# Connector (s)   15-pin VGA
# S-Video Out
TV-Out   Yes
Video-In   No
Built-in TV Tuner   No


cost
$75 . how does this fx PCI card stack against the previous one                    

[Crixx_Creww]

ok one last addition



The Tornado GeForce4 MX440 DDR Memory PCI with nVIDIA's patent-pending Accuview Antialiasing (AA) technology delivers the best visual quality and performance, without the dreaded "jaggies". By integrating a variety of hardware-implemented, high-resolution antialiasing multisampling techniques, including 2X , 4X, and nVIDIAR 's own Quincunx mode, the Tornado GeForce4 MX440 PCI delivers up to five times the antialiased performance of the GeForce2 MX, while delivering superior visual quality and no performance degradation. By offering the Geforce4 MX440 Video card in a PCI package, we are opening up the world of high end 3d graphics to the adverage user.



Product Code:    VDINOB555G4M440A256
Description:    Inno3D GeForce4 MX 440 128MB DDR W/ TV Out PCI
Manufacturer:    Inno3D
Availability:    In Stock And Ready To Ship!
Packaging Type:    OEM
Chipset:    nVidia GeForce4 MX 440
Warranty:    1 Year Amamax


price $88                    

[bushman5]

Ok here my advice
Dat card is a pack of shiet
g-force fx 5200 is a pack of cow dung
also my advice on a pci card would have to be DONT BUY 1

also my observations on the otehr parts you selected would have to be
SHIET SHIET SHIET AND MORE SHIET............

Thate ram is well a waste of time and money you need minimum 512 ddr 333
my suggestion would be  just go with 1  part a graphics card and maby some ram g-force fx 5600 up
or ati radeon 9600 up
 and i tihnk youll also need a new mother board.

any otehr questions  =)                    

[bushman5]

o yea and you seeem to just keep getting orst and worst with those video cards the mx is BALLSSSSSSSSSSS                    

[Crixx_Creww]

yu doh seem to understand

for me to get an agp card id need to change my board and get a good processor one time


i dont have money for that, if i did i would just get a new system

iam lookin for an upgrade of about 200 dollars to get my system to play certain games

pci is my only option i dont wanna buy a new mobo for this current system because i do plan on buying a great new system eventually.

Buh i cah go that long with out sweat.                    

[SPK]

well if u need to sweat immediately on a budget, there's not much more that i guess u can do than what u suggest...

Next time, build yuh own PC, simple enough...                    

[bushman5]

You can get alot for 200 usd
my suggestion would be to get a new mobo and processor
buy the mobo and processor second hand if you mwant ill sell you a 1.5 ghz at a ok price all you gota do is go to baego and ask to buy a mobo tell him your sit and hell maby help you with a ok pricethen buy a g-force 3 ti 500
dats a good card                    

[cdx2k1]

ay..listen..i think ATI still have the Radeon 7000 or7500 in PCI.But i dunno how much is cost.check local vendors 2 c if they is still sell them                    

[TrinireturnofGamez]

10% ONLY???!!! wow.... the FX is as slow as a geforce 2 for non DX9 titles... but i'm sure its the fastest you can find.. unless the 9700 PCI exists . The FX uses SLOOOO ram , like 6ns [ the geforce 4 mx has 4ns, radeon 9700 2.8 ns] so it can afford lots of it. I'd go with a nu mobo and a radeon 8-9xxxx , the colour quality is superb and very few bugs with newer drivers .                    

[bushman5]

please dont confuse the fx with the mx =0 totally different in performance                    

[spinner]

yeah boy i need a PCI card too..cant afford to replace the whole board at this time..the first one is decent and most games i try to run like Jedi Outcast always with some OpenGl compatability thing                    

[bushman5]

you really ned to tough itout and buy a new board                    

[Crixx_Creww]

i dont wanan waste sucha  large upgrade on a system iam not gonna use that much when i get my new one
i dont wanna change de mobo, its been pretty reliable for me, when i changed the ram the last time i get a big boost so iam gonna do that again ande de processor

as i said, really strapped for cash, i may use this pc as a server or something when i get my new system but for now the pci is my only real alternative and the audigy platinum as well.

i just need the best pci card i can find                    

[TrinireturnofGamez]

i'd go wit de geforce 4 mx 128mb.. de FX does not support true DX9 anyhow.... it only has shader 1.4 , not shader 2.0 like the 9600 pro and 5700 ultra                    

[bushman5]

O.o  you need to look up your info again                    

[TrinireturnofGamez]

you micht as well buy a nu mobo and keep ole cpu, also you could overclock your CPU to higher speeds as long as its a coppermine or tualatin with a good fan.                    

[vinion2000]

crixx its hard advice but youll have to list. youll waste more money in the long term doing this short term fix. parts devalue very quicky and sd-ram and pre ghz processors are dog cheap. reselling them is basically giving them away.  why waste money pampering an old motherboard? the working requirements for games are already in the GHZ range (whether they admit it or not) and a PCI card isnt going to help.

while im on PCI cards. PCI cards arent really that fast. in agp terms they are 2X cards. even with a fx PCI card it wont be a huge improvement cause if the limited bandwith. GFX heavy games still will slow down.

the best advice is to wait. park the games aside and save and build a new system. parts devalue to quicky to make any return on an proper upgrade.                    

[androsovic]

well said my boy.pci rell slow and gay.