THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD

[Forsakened]

errm... orochimaru snake thingy was his tool.. and it wanted to kill him... only cause orochimaru was strong the snake couldn't touch him...

so dunno why u think ur tool hadda respect u or be ur fwiend...

once u can be used by someone to accomplish their goal or task etc.. your a tool
whether u WANT to be that tool or constantly struggling against it is irrelevant, a tool could want to kill it's master all it want.. is still a tool.. and btw...

and yes the kyuubi bad.. but he cant break the seal... unless naruto release him... in other words... naruto have all the power over the kyuubi... so u dont try to overplay the kyuubi's strength.. he is still binded.

Valid point about Orochimaru's snake summon, I recall Kabuto stating something like if he even knew that Orochimaru couldn't use his hands he would have bailed on them this was during the battle involving the three Senins

Ahh forsakened, you haven't been on the forum long enough to know this, but umm, crixx, well, erm, he has a thing for sasuke o_O. Don't even bother to try to make sense because it has no bearing when it comes to sasuke. Just have fun with it

Yeah I had kinda noticed that some time back

I figured some mindless on/off topic banter to lighten the mood was in order. XD

Nah its all good here just the occassional kunai and or shiruken.

[Crixx_Creww]

Well Crixx to each their own because to me and several others it was just absolute rubbish and lets not forget that Rock-Lee did not have the ability to use chakra at that point in time.

all ninjas use chakura, not all are skilled or can use ninjutsu, but they all use chakura, every last one of them.

[Kenji]

Well Crixx to each their own because to me and several others it was just absolute rubbish and lets not forget that Rock-Lee did not have the ability to use chakra at that point in time.

all ninjas use chakura, not all are skilled or can use ninjutsu, but they all use chakura, every last one of them.

so course lee could use chakra.......what he couldn't and can't use still is ninjutsu and genjutsu

[phoenix31tt]

"One of the many different types of jutsu, ninjutsu, genjutsu, dojutsu, and so on, all require the use of chakra. However, taijutsu is different, usually requiring no chakra use whatsoever. stamina is all that is needed. "

Taken fron narutopedia

So no.. rock lee cant use chakra

[Saxito Pau]

"One of the many different types of jutsu, ninjutsu, genjutsu, dojutsu, and so on, all require the use of chakra. However, taijutsu is different, usually requiring no chakra use whatsoever. stamina is all that is needed. "

Taken fron narutopedia

So no.. rock lee cant use chakra

i would disagree but not fully.

I recall early in the series that chakra was defined as energy generated from cells. If my assertion if true, Then it can be said Lee can use chakra, but just solely for Primary/Secondary Lotus.

You must have some sort of chakra-moulding ability to open the chakra gates to perform such a dangerous move. I doh think 'bad mind' is good enough.

Also, there is a another query. If Lee cannot use Chara, then how does one explain Lee's ability to stand on water when his group and Gai were fighting Kisame? You have to be able to mould chakra to stand on water (recall when Jiraya trained Naruto to stand on water and had to use the five-part unseal on his belly)

[phoenix31tt]

well we know we he not supposed to be able to mold chakra...
but u have valid points, so he prolly is able to use some form of chakra in a different way.

the standing on water thing doh i think is just an oversight.. since he clearly has to mold chakra to do that

[Forsakened]

"One of the many different types of jutsu, ninjutsu, genjutsu, dojutsu, and so on, all require the use of chakra. However, taijutsu is different, usually requiring no chakra use whatsoever. stamina is all that is needed. "

Taken fron narutopedia

So no.. rock lee cant use chakra

i would disagree but not fully.

I recall early in the series that chakra was defined as energy generated from cells. If my assertion if true, Then it can be said Lee can use chakra, but just solely for Primary/Secondary Lotus.

You must have some sort of chakra-moulding ability to open the chakra gates to perform such a dangerous move. I doh think 'bad mind' is good enough.

Also, there is a another query. If Lee cannot use Chara, then how does one explain Lee's ability to stand on water when his group and Gai were fighting Kisame? You have to be able to mould chakra to stand on water (recall when Jiraya trained Naruto to stand on water and had to use the five-part unseal on his belly)

Hhhmm valid point indeed I always use to wonder if he couldn't use chakra how was he able to open those gates but I guess it could be narrowed down that he cannot mold chakra in a high enough level or sum to be able to execute Ninjitsu and Gengitsu I guess that would be more of an accurate statement but it doesn't really matter now that he no longer has that limitation.

[W1nTry]

Lee can't perform ninjutsu or genjutsu, obviously he can perform taijutsu which he uses chakra for.

[phoenix31tt]

Lee can't perform ninjutsu or genjutsu, obviously he can perform taijutsu which he uses chakra for.

you make it sound as if using taijutsu means using chakra... didnt you read what i posted?
Taijutsu uses no chakra...

[W1nTry]

Lee can't perform ninjutsu or genjutsu, obviously he can perform taijutsu which he uses chakra for.

you make it sound as if using taijutsu means using chakra... didnt you read what i posted?
Taijutsu uses no chakra...

So his lotus techniques use no chakra... opening the gates to increase his taijutsu power uses no chakra... right that makes perfect sense.

Hmm this is strange and has to be an ERROR, Rock Lee using a Seal before performing a move on sasuke in their VERY FIRST ENCOUNTER...



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Where was it ever said he has no chakra? He has no talent for ninjutsu or genjutsu, why do you think taijutsu doesn't use ANY chakra?

Chakra (チャクラ, chakura) is essential to even the most basic jutsu; it is a mixture of the physical energy present in every cell of the body and the spiritual energy gained from exercise and experience. Once mixed, it can be channeled through the chakra circulatory system, which is to chakra as the regular circulatory system is to blood, to any of the 361 chakra points (called tenketsu) in the body. Through various methods, the most common of which is hand seals, the chakra can then be manipulated to create an effect that would not be possible otherwise, such as walking on water.

Why would Lee EVER need a hand seal... for style I suppose

[Forsakened]

Hhhmm valid points there W1nTry but I would disagree that he had use a seal on Sasuke at that inital conflict what he was doing I'm not sure because at times he take unusually looking martial art stance, but I must agree it does look suspicious.

[phoenix31tt]

sighs at win.. why u gone of...

i posted why i think taijutsu uses no chakra.. because of d definition from narutopedia...

secondly.. i stipulated the saxman's point of rock lee @ least being able  to use some chakra... what im saying to uuuuu is...
him being able to use taijutsu DOES NOT MEAN he can use chakra...

so to sum it up... i agree he must be able to use some chakra.. but at the same time taijutsu doesnt use chakra.. his gate opening etc enhances his taijutsu abilities

[W1nTry]

And I was trying to point out that I think his taijutsu DOES use chakra. Whilst the amount used will vary from NON to ALOT, most times than not, esp when performing 'signature' moves, he IS indeed using it, if he had no chakra he'd be dead, otherwise what's the point of Shino Clan's use of bugs to suck out ur chakra to kill you?

[Saxito Pau]

Narutopedia is not the oracle of the Naruto universe. It is one [of many] comprehensive source of data about the series.

I will agree with Wintry here.

[rb]

You guys need to remember that Lee also hasn't had much character development since pre-time skip. There's alot that COULD have happened but since there's been little emphasis on him, we won't really know.

[Forsakened]

And I was trying to point out that I think his taijutsu DOES use chakra. Whilst the amount used will vary from NON to ALOT, most times than not, esp when performing 'signature' moves, he IS indeed using it, if he had no chakra he'd be dead, otherwise what's the point of Shino Clan's use of bugs to suck out ur chakra to kill you?

Well they excel in poisoning and destroying cell by inserting chakra into you also so they are not really limited to depending on their opponents having chakra to do them harm.

You guys need to remember that Lee also hasn't had much character development since pre-time skip. There's alot that COULD have happened but since there's been little emphasis on him, we won't really know.

Well he should be crazy at the moment since Gai should have started his Ninjitsu training sometime ago since the 5th freed up whatever was blocking his chakra flow when she did the surgerory on him after his fight with Gaara.  Also I think its just building up like what happened last time when we all had an idea of the abilites of the Genin's but we never really got to see in in play we saw some action in the Chunin tournament but we didn't really get to see them shine until they went to capture Sasuke when he had escaped and there was a clash between the Genin's and the Sound Nins that Orochimaru had sent to escort Sasuke.

[phoenix31tt]

ah yes... another solid episode from naruto

meanwhile tite kubo is well into his GAY stride.. as aizen now has butterfly wings... -.-

[Synchronomyst]

Lee and Gai's taijutsu selling point is that doesn't require that you mould chakra.

[phoenix31tt]

synchro u should just let that rest... i didnt even bother to go into showing that "having" chakra and d ability to use it is 2 diff things

[Crixx_Creww]

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