errr... without the kyuubi he woulda have the sage training even easier cuz then he woulda be able to merge with the frogs :Slol u does make it sound like naruto's strength is the kyuubi lol... like all he take from his father is the hair... everything else musbe come from the mother lol
lol point proven... just show me where the chakra thing about the kyuubi is.. thats the only thing i interested in rite now