I just read this morning that the 8800GTX on a dual core (even OCed to the high heavens) only managed just shy of 12K in 3DMark06. So it looks like Quad core is the only thing that will get you those 13K records and even then it was OCed anys. That aside, we have no IN GAME benchmarks... soo all this talk bout G80 doh mean much without game benchmarks. FPS and picture quality pplz. That aside, the X1950Pro looking like it, but I have a lil time... like waiting on the 175USD one to get back in stock. I also read another article review that can be seen here. Seems like Xfire on the X1950Pro is also decent. Either way it may be at least worth waiting on G80's official launch as that SHOULD push the price of this card down a tad.