Author Topic: WoW on Linux (Read 3698 times)

vivman1107 · « **on:** September 29, 2006, 10:37:45 AM »

CrossOver adds support for WoW and other Steam-based games to CrossOver 6.0. There is a public time-limited beta for anyone who wants to try it out. I don't have WoW or any Steam-based games to try, though. I would like to hear if anyone manages to get it running and how well it works.

http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS3460199439.html

http://www.codeweavers.com/beta/cxlinux/download/

Carigamers · « **on:** September 29, 2006, 10:37:45 AM »

Crixx_Creww · « **Reply #1 on:** September 29, 2006, 11:54:46 AM »

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when will you linux people quit.

Just get a pc to sweat game and be done with this nonsense.

shivadee · « **Reply #2 on:** September 29, 2006, 05:47:25 PM »

its called ignorance...and Linux ppl are proud of it. All this crap for a "perfect" OS..but you have to wait 3 years to play your games.

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:22:11 AM »

lol

lihixxxxxxxxx for linuxxxxxxxx

but really, linux is based on freeness whereas these games are based on commerce.

They just aren't of the same world.

Most extreme techies won't even pay for their OS, you think they gonna pay for their games?? Ha!

Surely that places 'em on the bottom of the game developers list.

Three years wait idmc.

incidentally, I see Savage 2 touting itself as a game with "Linux Version At Launch"

Clever little moniker. If it sells well on that platform (which I doubt) in the future you will see more and more games doing this.

TinyGrasshopper · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2006, 07:10:05 PM »

I disagree. For most people that come into using linux, the bait is the free as in gratis, but for technically inclined people, you understand that its not about that its about the free as in libre. You come to realise, what nah I can do that with my computer?! nice. The ethical maturity that defines your willingness to pay for something has nothing to do with your inclination in operating system. I'll rightfully admit that when I was 14, I was using Windows and didn't pay for a single game but became very adept at pirating them. That had nothing to do with the OS, I use Linux and Windows now and are equally willing to pay for something(although I'm usually broke). The only things that developers are leary about is Linux's 2 percent market share it has nothing to do with the stereotypical user profile. The linux support comes from indie developers like s2games and it pays off for them in games like Savage. Savage 2 will sell a good few units and will be worth the effort for them. I don't use linux because I don't want to pay for an operating system, I use it because it gives me the power that I want over my system, and doesn't use nefarious drm hardware or require a massive system to run. What linux does need is to bring back Loki, or somekind of outsourcer like Aspyr or Macsoft are for the Mac. That way we won't have to deal in klugy Wine APIs. The fact that Wine has reached this point is impressive though.

Carigamers · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2006, 07:10:05 PM »

Crixx_Creww · « **Reply #5 on:** September 30, 2006, 07:26:14 PM »

why use wine when you could just use blooddy windows!!!
omfg!!

TinyGrasshopper · « **Reply #6 on:** September 30, 2006, 07:42:25 PM »

because I want to use an open source operating system

Crixx_Creww · « **Reply #7 on:** September 30, 2006, 08:30:06 PM »

then stop trying to use our super cool windows programs that yu so cant live with out that yu need wine for..pfft

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #8 on:** October 01, 2006, 10:14:25 AM »

You make my point for me grasshopper.

Whereas it may not be true on a case by case basis...on the macro level, technically inclined linux users do not pay for software. Besided the fact that you are "liberating" your computer and yourself, they generally do not want to liberate their wallet of money.

Most of the popular linux apps come on the distro discs for FREE. Everything from productivity to entertainment. Not exactly capitalism at it's finest hour.

Not withstanding that, these gurus have the computer smarts to figure out how to pirate every piece of software on the planet.

Let us do some math.

Already established them as a minority. Say 100,000 Linux men in the world.

Out of that, 20,000 interested in games more than root access.

Out of that 20,000 only 5000 are morally against piracy and will pay for legit copies.

That's the picture I see. As do most game developers I'll bet. They are likely linux men themselves, lol.

shivadee · « **Reply #9 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:36:14 PM »

If this thread is trying to justify the pro's of Linux being used as a game medium over Windows i would say it is complete rubbish. If you are saying that you like an open source OS (so to speak) for your games (when they decide to come out)...that i can understand. Nothing wrong with change, nothing wrong with trying something different.
Even as a project to get something to work on Linux....well cool. But for gaming over windows.......no...leave Linux as it is plz.

vivman1107 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 01, 2006, 04:51:10 PM »

As of right now, I have to dual boot Linux and Windows XP for one reason and that is games. I was just pointing out that Crossover added support for WoW, arguably the biggest PC game to come out in the last few years. Now, if this support can snowball, maybe I will not have to dual boot in the future. I don't want to get into which OS is better because there are some users on both sides who have strong opinions. All I can say is I like Linux for everyday use and well Windows is the only choice for games (for now). If all games came out with full Linux support there would be no need for this thread. So, is there anyone who has actually tried WoW on the Crossover beta?

TinyGrasshopper · « **Reply #11 on:** October 01, 2006, 07:56:47 PM »

I don't use Windows programs whenever I can, obviously. If I can run a program on the OS of my choice, that's my right. If there's a piece of software that allows me to do so there's nothing wrong with that. If anything it attests to the flexibility of the OS.

Baego you'd be surprised to know that for many linux users it's not about the free as in gratis. If anything once they get involved they see that some projects would be a lot better off if they had some money. It's a lot more about the philosophy and the community that open source can foster. That and the fact that when executed properly, it typically produces better code. I don't know about those numbers but for an independent studio selling 5000 copies is fantastic. That's why Savage puts out a port. They understand that. Plus with the chicken and egg problem most would be linux gamers are just windows gamers as vivman attests to.

Linux as a gaming market leaves a lot to be desired right now. That sux. That's more about market forces though than about which OS is better.

Why don't you try it out? The beta is a 60 day trial after all.

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #12 on:** October 01, 2006, 08:08:55 PM »

lol, thanks Shiv. You are right on the money.

Commerce drives games and windows is the perfect commercial platform for that. Not that I'm pro capitalism but that is the reality.

viv, nice save but I think chances of that snowball are extremely slim for reasons previously outlined.\

Tiny, I have tried and am still an advocate of the opensource scene but it is for that very reason that I know what it is and what it isn't.

A hot bed for the gaming community, IT IS NOT.

Great exception in Savage but that is the exception, not the rule.

You do make a fine point on the independent studio bit. They are the ones least worried about capital issues since they don't have the massive overheads to deal with and could more easily attack niche markets. Going a pure download route for the game means it costs them nothing in terms of shelving, placement and marketing to offer a linux version.

Since the industry is heading in that general direction (offering games for direct download) there is good hope for the future.

roodie · « **Reply #13 on:** October 01, 2006, 10:34:14 PM »

Well I am very happy for those folks who pride themselves in expanding the Gates Empire....but for those like my self who would prefer linux over windows any day of the week...GET OVER IT!!!
Linux + Games = 98% crap
Windows + Games = The only fibbing thing that works like it was meant to on this platform

Unless you are yourself a game developer, have built really good game, don't really care about money then there's absolutely nothing you can do about it except fight up with wine, or some other thing to get windows programs to run on your linux box. If dual-booting annoys the crap out of you then there is also something called VM-Ware and lots and lots of RAM you can fight up with.

Game Developers don't get paid to develop a product that more than half of the world doesn't use...and thats the bottom line...no one would sell their game.

Interestingly though...isn't PS3 or Wii going to be running linux?

I would love for the day that there are linux releases for all our favorite games...but its not going to happen today or tomorrow -- maybe the day after that....until then...will somebody please answer the man question!!!

CrossOver adds support for WoW and other Steam-based games to CrossOver 6.0. There is a public time-limited beta for anyone who wants to try it out. I don't have WoW or any Steam-based games to try, though. I would like to hear if anyone manages to get it running and how well it works.

vramch · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2006, 08:00:41 AM »

I have been playing wow on linux using wine-x a while now, so the support has been there. http://www.transgaming.com if you want to check it out, it also has support for steam based games. and its commercial, but well worth the buy

TinyGrasshopper · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:09:34 PM »

PS3 is running linux. The ps2 was also developed using floss tools like gcc as well. Sony uses a lot of floss internally even though they are considered a very proprietary company.

shivadee · « **Reply #16 on:** October 04, 2006, 04:52:40 AM »

what is your point? It is a better OS than MS in terms of stability? sure it is. Will you see more games coming to it to the point where it overshadows windows? sure it WONT. good point you made, but its empty.

TinyGrasshopper · « **Reply #17 on:** October 04, 2006, 09:41:45 AM »

I don't see where we disagree here. I think Linux gaming is an impossible sell too. But that won't make me stop using Linux, because I understand the merits of a floss operating system and that's why I will continue using it. You don't have to, that's your perogative. But for many, Crossover is now a feasible alternative and its because of the merits of floss in general that such an alternative has become feasible in the first place.

shivadee · « **Reply #18 on:** October 04, 2006, 11:31:39 AM »

1. Its too expensive to make a best seller nowadays
2. that is the reason why the game is released to LINUX late - when the price drops
3. It is an alternative.....but it isnt feasable, economical. Actually we game developers give you the silent treatment or laugh in your face if you mention releasing a LINUX version. Too little ppl to play it.....too much money spent.
4. Bottom line.......its too expensive.

Carigamers · « **Reply #18 on:** October 04, 2006, 11:31:39 AM »

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