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I could have sworn I posted on this before but I couldn't find anything so i'll just make a new thread for it. Basically intel is entering (read re-entering) the discrete graphics market segment again (otherwise known as eating up what FEW partners it has left) and apparently is really making some motions by aquiring like mad whoeven they can get with the know how. Here are 2 articles to that effect:

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Intel starts hiring Larrabee graphics engineers

Nvidious comparisons

 WEB SITE Accelenation has noticed that Intel is hiring engineers for the Larrabeee project, further indicating it may well have plans to enter the discrete graphics chip market.
Indiscreet rumours have circulated in the industry for some time that Intel wants to re-enter a market currently dominated by Nvidia and ATI.

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Intel puts beef into designing discrete graphics chip

To dream the impossible dream


By Fuad Abazovic: Wednesday 16 August 2006, 18:51

 A VARIOUS industry sources confirmed to me that Intel is getting serious about discreet graphics, indiscreetly. The company wants to enter the discrete graphics marked and and I have also learned that the massive giant has dedicated many, many engineers to work on a new discrete graphic core.
Some of these chaps have Nvidia or ATI backgrounds and at the same time we can confirm this story. Actually it is kind of a fight between Intel and Nvidia, and not, for once, a fight between AMD and Intel.

Intel has problems on the graphics front and that is, as ATI insiders told us only a few weeks ago, there is a restricted number of people with the know how. Intel may not be able to conquer this plain fact by, for example, just hiring, hiring and hiring again.

However, I believe that Intel might well become a serious competitor to both Nvidia and ATI. This will put Nvidia is an extremely difficult position because of Chipzilla does its own discrete graphics chip, it won't need Graphzilla.

One of our readers suggested that Nvidia might reach out to buy Via and in that case we would got three powerhouses that are able to build graphic cards and CPUs at the same time. Via, of course, has rights to certain X86 patents. µ

What's that crixx? Intel killing nvidia is OK because it's intel? of course the whole via/nvidia thing could be quite interesting...

Buffer reads aloud:
In the Brown (read Red+green==brown) corner weighing in at 2 companies recently merged with processor, chipset and gpu tech behind them is D.A.A.M.I.T. (AMD+ATI)
In the Green Corner weighing in at 2 companies we have also with cpu, chipset and gpu tech behind them we have VidiA (read Via+Nvidia) (pronounced VY-Dia)
and lastly...
In the blue corner we have weighing more than the others COMBINED with cpu, chipset and as much gpu engineers as money can steal Intel.

Let the monopolistic battle for supremacy BEGIN... AGAIN!

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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2006, 10:47:39 AM »
lol look at that

intel is bring people together and you people are hating on them
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no one ever appreciates the work of the true heroes. Aint that a beeznatch.

what colour does blue and green make though?

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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2006, 11:06:41 AM »
what colour does blue and green make though?
turquois LOL. Actually just a slightly different shade of green would be the result :p

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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2006, 11:14:42 AM »
lol sure it wouldnt be more blue than green? more like bluequois than turquois?

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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2006, 11:28:21 AM »
it's not that I hate them, it's just that I think they suck.  =p
I'd believe u if you were right.

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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2006, 11:28:21 AM »

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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2006, 10:35:14 AM »
 i have dibs on 'they will suck'  , whispers say even the new integ from intel with shader 3.0 is SLOWER than previous integs... that REAL bloody slow...
  ATI and Nvidia have years of experience and lots of technology behind them , it will take more than a few months and an ad hoc team to beat them , as proven time and time again whenever Matrox or S3 releases a card to attempt to beat them ...
  But it would be good to have a 3rd man in the race......
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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2006, 10:53:14 AM »
a third party can't hurt...but before you know it, Intel will start building boards that "work better" with intel graphics, and offer less support for other cards...kinda' like when SOE got into bed with NVIDIA for EQ.
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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2006, 10:40:48 AM »
i have dibs on 'they will suck' , whispers say even the new integ from intel with shader 3.0 is SLOWER than previous integs... that REAL bloody slow...
 ATI and Nvidia have years of experience and lots of technology behind them , it will take more than a few months and an ad hoc team to beat them , as proven time and time again whenever Matrox or S3 releases a card to attempt to beat them ...
 But it would be good to have a 3rd man in the race......
I had a HUGE argument on hardware analysis forums about how with enough money you can do anything citiing that the AMD bashing was unncessary since intels new line is their 'next gen' chip and AMD's chips competed with P4 and until the K8L it won't be a true battle of 'next gen' But anyways. I should find back that topic and point out that intel has/had enough money to develop conroe in parallel all the while getting lihixx and in NO smal way is THANX to Paul Otellini for pulling them out of the gutter (read Intel CEO).  But here is just to re-iterate that if you're not as good at something or you NEED to do better at something your competitor has managed to 1-up you on , just THROW money at the right ppl and you'll be good to go:
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Intel signed up most of the 3Dlabs team

Open GL 2.0 creators in Intel hands


By Fuad Abazovic: Monday 21 August 2006, 10:20

 WE HEARD the rather interesting news that the mighty Intel quietly acquired most of the 3Dlabs graphic team. Back on the 24th February this year, 3Dlabs and its mother company Creative Labs announced plans to "refocus" 3Dlabs' interests on mobile and handheld market.
The company also said that it will cut its workforce to only 100 people. We learned that a whole group of very talented engineers from Fort Collins, Colorado moved across to Intel.

Intel offered them a shelter as those guys have made 3D graphic powerhouse workstation chips for many years and because those guys actually designed most of the specs for Open GL 2.0 specification. They should not have much trouble to "refocus" their interest to the discrete graphics that Intel yearns for so much.

There is a patent matter that could still be pending.
THey may sucketh NOW, but give them time. Intel has enough money to buy anyone it needs to get its job done. *W1nTry runs off to find hardware analysis thread and light up de men who say money doh buy innovation*

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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2006, 10:46:39 AM »
 still at the same time all those smaller companies have never beat ATI or Nvidia this century, they not gonna start now....
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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2006, 01:41:45 PM »
still at the same time all those smaller companies have never beat ATI or Nvidia this century, they not gonna start now....
You used the MOST important word there, SMALL. Last I checked intel isn't SMALL. ADD to that, intel TOTALLY PWNS the integrated market and you have the possible future of DOOM for Nvidia should it stay alone. All intel would have to do is replace its current LAME int graphics with something half decent from the 3DLabs crew and soon you'll see them beginning to cut into the discrete. Then launch a powerful card 'Intel' branded with some total platform nonsense like 'Intel EGP' (Extreme graphics platform) kinda like centrino and then they'll REALLY put the hurt on the other vendors. Wait and see. And btw trini, Creativelabs team are EXCELLENT, just they lack the marketing prowress behind them... they won't have that problem anymore....

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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2008, 09:55:46 AM »
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Larrabee boards coming in November

Devs should start queueing up now

By Charlie Demerjian: Tuesday, 22 July 2008, 5:13 PM

Click here to find out more!

INTEL IS AHEAD of schedule with Larrabee. Initial boards are going to be shipping to devs in November. Before you get your hopes up, these are not consumer parts, nor were they meant to be. Dev means developer, and chances are the epic MMO that you are whipping up in your mom's basement does not qualify.

The initial boards are meant to code against, and they will do that nicely. They will not be at the final clock, final core counts, or final anything however. If you want to get your feet wet, Intel should have a board for you in a few months.

Don't expect stunning performance though, Larrabee is a new paradigm, and that takes a long time for most devs to wrap their brains around. If you are just going to code DXxx or OpenGL, you don't need one of these.

If you are going to do something interesting, or write engine/middleware code, well you are probably already talking to Intel about Larrabee.

So what exactly will Larabee bee?

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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2008, 10:01:34 AM »
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Don't expect stunning performance though, Larrabee is a new paradigm, and that takes a long time for most devs to wrap their brains around. If you are just going to code DXxx or OpenGL, you don't need one of these.

OMG I read that and pronounced "pa-ra-dig-em" instead of "pa-ra-dine"

DAMN YOU, KAMLA PERSAD BISSESSAR!!


EDIT on advice of Arcman: DAMN YOU TOO, ADESH NANAN!!
« Last Edit: July 23, 2008, 10:18:00 AM by SaxMan »
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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2008, 10:03:03 AM »
LMAO!!!

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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2008, 10:14:45 AM »
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Don't expect stunning performance though, Larrabee is a new paradigm, and that takes a long time for most devs to wrap their brains around. If you are just going to code DXxx or OpenGL, you don't need one of these.

OMG I read that and pronounced "pa-ra-dig-em" instead of pa-ra-dine"

DAMN YOU, KAMLA PERSAD BISSESSAR!!

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Re: And the next round will be Intel vs. Nvidia vs. D.A.A.M.I.T (ATI AMD)
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