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(Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« on: July 19, 2006, 02:56:42 PM »
Street FighterAlpha 3
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Date: Sunday 27th August 2006
Location: GATT HQ,
36a, Maraval Road, St. Clair
Phone: 622-8324
Time: 2PM - 10PM

Street Fighter Alpha 3
Format: 1v1
Damage: $25 per person

1st Prize: $300.00
2nd Prize: $100.00

NOT ALLOWED
(SHIN AKUMA & SHIN BISON)
« Last Edit: August 10, 2006, 11:36:35 PM by [X]-Baego »

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(Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« on: July 19, 2006, 02:56:42 PM »

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2006, 11:19:26 PM »
I need to know the know the tournament format, and please don't tell me about anything involving single elimination, cause then I just won't waste $30 coming downtown on a Sunday to play by rules that make no sense for the competitive circles and not used in any major fighting tournament outside of Guadeloupe.

Suggested Rules
Round Robin -> Double Elimination (top 8)

Round Robin -
Single Match 
3/5 rounds
Game Speed Turbo 2
all other settings default

Double Elimination Bracket - TOP 8 
Best of 3 matches
2/3 rounds
Game Speed - Turbo 2

Winners & Losers Finals - Best of 5 matches
Grand Finals - Best of 7 matches

*EDIT*

So I just looked at my exam time table and realized that I have an exam Monday Morning :( guess I won't be coming after all...Oh well
« Last Edit: August 03, 2006, 08:02:54 AM by rb »

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2006, 11:31:40 PM »
Alpha 3... great to see that the game still has so many followers... after seeing 30 signups for the game at VxG, and it being my first competitive fighting game, i got a sense of nostalgia playing that.... anyway

I gotta say RB has a point with the DE. For Vxg, it worked out really well. Matter of fact, we used round robins to decide who reached to the DE stage, which added more "longevity" to the tournament, but i guess only makes sense if you have at least 24 players in a game. But DE is A MUST  for ANY fighting game. Samuel of Gigagames in Guadeloupe only used SE because 1) fighting games are not that popular there, 2) They have limited resources (time, system, referees) to run the competition and 3) they do not really understand the system.

RB is a great fighting game guru, go with his advice... as i said before, the man gave me some very good pointers for VxG. Good luck with the tournament and lemme know who wins :)

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2006, 01:25:28 PM »
lol

RB is a piece of work indeed. We have been over this a thousand times.

Round robin into Single Elimination is perfectly acceptable.

While we all agree that double elimination is "better" we must also agree that it has draw backs that may not make it suitable for a given event.

Typically the limit for these events are 16 entrants. Round robin prelims with two groups. Top 2 in each group go to the single elimination stage.

Entire thing should take about 5-7 hours from start to finish.

It's a tried and true formula that we used at GATT HQ countless times.

That said, this is Flips event, so ultimately he will decide which rules are in use this time around.

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2006, 01:38:38 PM »
5-7 hours for a round robin into single elim ???

what the hell, thaz real damn long

round robin + double elim was like a little over 3hrs @ vxg

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2006, 01:38:38 PM »

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2006, 01:49:05 PM »
How many games you play in a match?

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2006, 02:29:50 PM »
round robin format was like this

pools of 4 top 2 advancing

everyone played everyone else in their pool once ( 1 match  3/5 rounds)
at the double elimination stage it was best of 3 matches (3/5 rounds)

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2006, 05:25:33 PM »
Well in our round robin, we play two matches, 3/5 rounds.

Also, keep in mind that the number of consoles in use would have been more at vxg,evo,giga,etc.. as compared to the measly one or two consoles for these small events.

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2006, 06:10:31 PM »
uh they used 1 console per game, stuff just sailed smoothly i guess

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2006, 12:38:30 PM »
well the fact that we played two games instead of their one is reason enough for ours to take twice as long.

Why did they only use one console though??? That's a bit strange.

In Gigagames about 20 PS2 systems or more were used.

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2006, 12:04:56 AM »
there were more systems, but there were different games running at the same time + ps2s for casuals. I still think that time is still kinda long (7hrs wtf) the 3hrs was an approximation, because thats how long it took with us having to wait for persons who were in other games to come to play...

btw is this thing still on ?

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2006, 11:42:49 AM »
The 3s and T5 tournaments rb coordinated took barely over 2hrs and there were about 32 competitors for the 3s I think.  T5 had more of course and it still didn't get anywhere past 3hrs.
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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2006, 12:15:19 PM »
how many people were entered in the tourneys yu hosted rb

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2006, 12:23:45 PM »
29 for 3rd strike
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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2006, 02:10:16 PM »
well like I said before the fact that we played two games instead of their one is reason enough for ours to take twice as long.

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2006, 07:14:58 PM »
That still makes no sense.  In the format RB used all games played were at least best out of 3 meaning that there were times when we had to wait on the outcome of a THIRD game.  The semis and finals were best out of 7 which could have easily made things very lengthy but yet it didn't.  And as I recall, the t5 finals on both the winner and loser brackets HAD to go the seventh game.

Still, NOT 3hrs.
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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2006, 07:37:38 PM »
the grand finals went 2 sets also if i remember correctly, cause you were in losers and had win 2 sets to beat khalid.

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2006, 07:59:13 PM »
Right you are.  Point being, all this drama and STILL it didn't take 3 hrs total. 
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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2006, 10:10:10 PM »
We were talking about the VXG tournament imperial, where RB says they played one game against each person in the group as opposed to our typical format where we play two games against everyone in your group.

Simple math suggests that our event should take twice as long as it has twice the number of games.

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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2006, 07:33:44 PM »
What?  I can't talk about VXG.  Last I checked, I didn't go. 

You could be talking about whatever tourney man.  Easily, VXG had twice the competitors for their events.  It still didn't run as long as 5-7hrs.  Just by crunching the numbers you'd still be led to believe that such an undertaking would take longer than an event with half the participants or at best around the same time considering that they played one game less.  And again, I say it, didn't take that long as far as reports from Rolando and RB.

And to reiterate, I was referring to rb's tournaments because they often ran THREE games between competitors AND a total of FOUR best of seven matches at the end yet did NOT cross so much as 3hrs.  I'm wasting time typing this as I see you've already made up your mind to waste time with an unsuitable format.

Of course, that's just my opinion... I could be wrong.
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Re: (Global) Street Fighter Alpha 3 Tournament Final Date
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