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« on: July 04, 2006, 10:16:00 AM »
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Nvidia G80 meets DX 10 spec with 'dis-unified' shader

Horses for courses


By Fuad Abazovic: Monday 03 July 2006, 09:50

WE HEAR Nvidia has been beavering away fo meet the DirectX 10 specification.
And the firm decided it doesn't need a unified Shader for its upcoming G80 chipset. Instead, it decided that you will be fine with twice as many pixel Shader numbers as geometry and vertex Shaders.

AS we understand it, if a Nvidia DX10 chip ends up with 32 pixel-Shaders, the same chip will have 16 Shaders that will be able to process geometry instancing or the vertex information.

ATI's R600 and its unified Shaders work a bit differently. Let's assume that ATI hardware has 64 unified Shaders. This means that ATI can process 64 pixel lines only per clock. That may be in the proportions: 50 pixel, 14 vertex and geometry lines per clock, or 40 vertex, 10 pixel and 14 geometry information per clock. Any ratio that adds up to 64 will do. I hope you get this maths.

The Nvidian chippery is limited to 32 pixel and 16 vertex and geometry lines per clock, which might be a wining ratio but it is still too early to say. We don’t know who will win the next generation hardware game and whose approach is better: ATI's unified or Nvidia's two-to-one ratio.

DirectX 10 actually doesn’t care how you do your Shaders as you speak with an abstraction layer and hardware can do its pixel, vertex and geometry data the way it wants. It will serve up the information to DirectX 10 that will process it inthe end.

Nvidia's G80 is fully DirectX 10 capable as well as Shader Model 4.0 capable but it won't be unified, according to our sources.

In the end, people care about the frames per second that that will ultimately decide who will win the next-generation graphics hardware race. µ

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« on: July 04, 2006, 10:16:00 AM »

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Re: G80
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2006, 04:06:35 PM »
Here yah go Crixxx, let the salivation begin:
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Nvidia's G80 has 32 pixel pipes

16 vertex & geometry Shaders


By Fuad Abazovic: Thursday 06 July 2006, 10:15

IT TURNS that the fancy Nvidia G80 chip taped out, and in working silicon stage it will have 32 pixel Shaders and, as predicted, have 16 vertex and geometry Shaders.
Nvidia wants to stick with a two to one ratio and assumes that the games of tomorrow will need twice as many pixels than they will need vertices and geometry information.

ATI believes in a different religion. ATI believes that every Shader should become one, united and bellowed. No more segregation to Pixel and Vertex Shaders. If ATI makes a chip with 64 Shader units all of them can do Shader either vertex or pixel or geometry stuff all the time. You can check the stories at the bottom for a better explanation.

We don’t know the clock speed of the upcoming performer but we don’t believe Nvidia can get more than 700MHz out of it - we could be wrong about that. µ

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Re: G80
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2006, 11:50:22 PM »
7600gt does 700mhz + on good air , G80 is supposedly 80nm , slightly cooler.. it should make that with normal air cooling..
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Re: G80
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2006, 11:55:13 PM »
meaty info.

I like the approach ATI took, sounds more flexible but at the same time, Nvidia hasn't let me down with their 3D hardware in recent times (not since the FX 5600 debacle)

As the article says, who nails the higher fps at the end of the day will win the war.

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pics of nvidia g80
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2006, 01:09:38 PM »
found from tech report - pics of nvidia g80


Those look like water cooling barbs to me.

would be interesting to see how it compares to 2 7900gtx cards which may be using less power.
:P random text doesn't go out of date does it?

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Re: pics of nvidia g80
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Re: pics of nvidia g80
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2006, 09:29:26 AM »
Since that page Beo put up takes forever and a day, here are the thumbnails (click on for full size) from another source:





That's one hella LARGE @$$ card dread...

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Re: pics of nvidia g80
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2006, 12:33:14 PM »
I cant wait to get my hands on one of these. Im just waiting for these and the nforce 590 intel edition based on c55 to come out before i do the upgrade. The card itself is indeed a monstrosity as i estimate it to be at least a couple inches longer than the 6800 series cards. Also, the whole cooling solution looks to be a giant dual slot one with those curious looking adjuster thingies poking out of the heatsink setup. One can only imagine the power that b!tch wil suck.
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Re: pics of nvidia g80
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2006, 12:37:26 PM »
Don't forget, you'll be needing a 1KW PSU to run it in SLI! :p

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Re: pics of nvidia g80
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2006, 12:46:06 PM »
bout how de cards go have lil adjustable jah antennaes on dem yes

nvidia know how to do it.

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Re: pics of nvidia g80
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2006, 01:36:37 PM »
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NV80 close to coming, but perhaps we should stay a bit off from buying
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2006, 10:41:25 AM »
Well if HDCP is on your wishlist at least:
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Nvidia's G80 has problems

SLI and HDCP broken for now


By Charlie Demerjian: Monday 23 October 2006, 09:03

 NVIDIA IS GIVING out G80 cards to editors' day attendees but no real drivers. Why on earth would Nvidia need to do that?
What is broken? Well, it seems G80 has a lot broken, some that will be fixed before launch, and some may be harder to fix.

Drivers on the 25th October will fix SLI, as we understand it is pretty badly borked in the current release. How badly? Enough to crash almost every time, said one source, and so basically unusable.

We have a lot of confidence this will be fixed before launch, possibly in the driver set we told you about earlier. I would only rate this as a corporate embarrassment that will hopefully never leak due to "strong and respected NDAs". The "editors" are wearing chastity belts designed to preserve the new Dawn's virginity.

The more troubling news is that we hear HDCP is badly borked in the first rev. Since we are not sure if this problem is hardware or software, if you care about jumping on the DRM infection train, you might want to look long and hard before you buy a G80.

Nvidia has something of a history of shipping broken functionality and not so much as correcting it on the box. Wait for independent reviews from people not wearing chastity belts that test this before you buy.

Last up, we hear that in the forthcoming 95 series drivers the classic display panels are gone for good. We plan to be holding a candlelight vigil for them at One Inquirer Tower on All Hallows Eve. Punch and pie will be served, along with mournful singers and a goth/emo kid moping in the corner. µ

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Re: NV80 close to coming, but perhaps we should stay a bit off from buying
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2006, 11:49:57 AM »
Lol @ punch and pie being served at the candlelight vigil for the classic display panel. I for one will surely miss the classic panel because of its simplicity and effectiveness as opposed to the new control panel, but i'm sure a way will be found to include them anyway.

Concerning the g80, it remains to be seen how much of a performance increase there will be from the current gen cards. Depending on that, a tradeoff will have to be made...A nice performance increase with dxx support for cames such as Crysis with the HDCP infection or HDCP less hardware, slightly less powerful and dx9 support. I guess its up to the individual to choose. AFAIK, manufacturers have to pay a license to include HDCP on their cards, so we may even see g80's without the infection coming from manufaturers unwilling to pay for the license.

As far as Nvidia working out the bugs in their as yet unreleased product, i have no doubt that they will, however, its a question of when. We might get a final product that needs the driver support that is not yet available, and have to wait weeks or even months to get it. At this point, its pure speculation. Only time will tell.

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Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX Details Unveiled
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2006, 12:14:30 AM »
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Asus, the web-site claims, will release two versions of the GeForce 8800-series graphics cards: EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M and EN8800GTS/HTDP/640M. The naming scheme implies that there will be two versions of the G80: the GeForce 8800 GTX and the GeForce 8800 GTS which will be different not only in terms of performance, but also in terms of installed amount of memory and interface: the GTX boards will carry 768MB with 384-bit interface, whereas the GTX cards will have 640MB with 320-bit interface. The higher-end model 8800 GTX will have its chip clocked at 575MHz and GDDR3 memory operating at 1.80GHz.

http://xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20061023142704.html

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Re: Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX Details Unveiled
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2006, 11:05:23 AM »
stop whining bout that

holy smokes @ 384 and 320 bit!! niceeeeeeeeeee

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Re: Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX Details Unveiled
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2006, 11:17:33 AM »
Old news... *sighs* at crixx overacting as per norm... anyways just to give some more info read here:
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G80 is big, hot and sports new SLI

G80, the remaining facts

By Fuad Abazovic: Wednesday 25 October 2006, 10:36
G80, GEFORCE 8800 GTX and GTS are old news now. We learned all about the cards including the fact that it has around 700 million transistors, that, as we said many moons before, it is based on 90 nanometre process and has dual power plugs.

The G80 chip needs a lot of power and is the biggest desktop graphics chip so far. I think the image from toms hardware Italy speaks for itself. here.

Another thing that we learned is that Nvidia uses a new SLI. We saw it here originally spotted at nvnews.net. The new SLI is dual rail stuff. It is ironic that ATI was the first to introduce such a connector that will let you have read and writes performed at the same time.

As for the rest, no one yet knows how many real pipelines this card has but you can rely on the 1.5GHz scalable clock rates. This doesn’t mean much to us as in theory this card is super fast but we will be anxious to see it in action.

G80, Geforce 8800 GTX and GTS are two biggest graphic cards ever and here is the link for the retail Asus card. Samples should be distributed this week and some lucky chaps got the cards back at Nvidia's editor's dates. µ
And here's a PIC of the MONSTER of a GPU... GG @ size

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Re: Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX Details Unveiled
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2006, 11:25:42 AM »
that not soooo big

will fit eeasliy into a dell ^_^

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Re: Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX Details Unveiled
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2006, 11:27:28 AM »
LMAO @ fit in DELL.... IN WHO'S DREAMS??? not even mikey dell I sure... LOL they will have to RE-Design a case JUST to fit that mc card... dread think of it this way, the card is prolly around 10" long... you see how big the CORE is in comparison to the CARD???? *sighs* @ crixx... I wanna see the COOLER for that thing... that's what I really interested in..

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Re: Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX Details Unveiled
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2006, 11:28:34 AM »
it will fit in my dell... granted i dont have pcie but it willl fit

i doh ever close my case
so it will fit ^_^

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Re: Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX Details Unveiled
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2006, 11:34:05 AM »
Yuh know its interesting that most mobos (at least the newer cases) don't fit replacement PSUs or mobos well AT ALL. Just the other day meh padna had to take a Dremel and Hacksaw to the case of a dell to install a new PSU for someone... not to mention the mobos and alignment for mobos are specific to dell... I hadda see this done. Crixx if/when yuh manage to install a PCIe mobo and THIS card or 1 of comparable size hit we some pix!

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Re: Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX Details Unveiled
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