The Theory of the VS Fighter ULTRA-Gamer

[4ever_within_uber]

Have you noticed that there are many games that you are very good in and you haven't put in as much effort as some of the people that you triumph over on a regular basis?

Ever played a game for the first time and within an hour become better than the men you see beasting it everyday?

You may be what we refer to as an ULTRA Gamer.

During the years I've been an avid VS games competitor I was accustomed to dominating all the games I play, until I met a man, his name was Imperial_X. Somehow he managed to beat me at all the games I play with the exception of one of two. I was perplexed. Even after heavy training I still couldn't beat him, welly iny any established way and was convinced I just couldn't... until now.

Even though I've hated the tekken series for it's sheer simplicity (df + 1, f + 1 + 2, a qcf + 2 found here and there) and low skill-differential (a noob can beat you without hesitation, even though better players win out more). Tekken brought me to the realisation of the most important quality that determines an UG and his level of UG dom.

                            Concentration (which i will refer to hereafter as CN or CN level)

Even though I play Nina over and over and use the same moves over and over I am able to best many players who use many characters continually. That brought me to the conclusion that winning is about this;
                           
                             Being able to consistently discern and successfully defend against your opponents attacks
                             Being able to consistently trick your opponent into not successfully defending your attacks by way of mixup art.

The level of your ability to read the patterns and possibilty for change in your enemie's attacks and training him to expect a pattern from you and changing it up when he least expects it (mixup art), ultimately determines who you will beat and how often you will beat them.  Developing this ability takes a whole lot of continual play and is no easy task, I'm currently at about just above the lowest level of ULTRA-Gamer CN but I still beat other UGs with a higher CN level and seeing as developing a high CN level takes so bloody much of play against others I'll tell you a way I found of becoming better that doesn't require practice with others.

                            Knowledge (KN or KN Level)

What this is is simple. Know your game. To get wins in Tekken being at my low CN level and being a working guy without the prime-time to spend to develop it, whenever I had the time i would sit down and learn all of the other character's moves and learn the most effective ways to either defend them or defend them and then counter. After constantly losing to other players I suddenly rose to the top. But the thing about KN is everyone can sit at home and raise their KN, so it'll help but to beat the real UGs you'll have to take the time out to practice with players all over the country as different people have different styles all of which you can integrate as you see fit to become a better player. I made my biggest jump in skill after sweating briefly (when i say briefly probably like 5 games in all) one saturday with Chaotic and Rio who viciously destroyed me at that point in time. I integrated some of their style of play into mine and from then on certain people who i couldn't beat at all now can't be me at all.

The results are paramount I'll share one of my personal experiences; A certain Asuka player who always beat me before, when I integrated the new style after playing constantly every evening for over a week he didn't win a single game against me.


Anyway aside from such a simple stupid game as Tekken there is another key factor that comes to play in games such as my personal favourite series Street Fighter.

                                Execution (EX or EX level)

How do you expect to win if when you try to uppercut you miss 75% of the time? Nuff said. If you play a real game like street fighter EX level is a serious factor in winning.... ever tried Genejin xx Kara palm? or to 'paint the fence" with A-Groove Bison in Capcom vs SNK 2? Trust me... you'll have a BAWL and maybe a good cry.

In closing STOP PLAYING TEKKEN AND PLAY STREET FIGHTER YOU HOBOS , eggs are good, comments are welcome and oranges are high in Vitamin C.


(I hate having to play tekken if i want good compeition, why doesn't anyone wanna sweat 3S?)

[shivadee]

THis is only about an utra fighter gamer.

[TriniXaeno]

makes perfect sense

and yes, it can easily apply to other genres as well.

My personal definition though is far more simplistic.

An ultragamer is a gamer who has a pre-disposition to wtfpwn in various genres.

So you may find a genious at fps/rts who sucks at fighting and racing.

Still an ultra gamer, no doubt.

One more thing that I'd throw in the mix, is a competitive spirit. (not mandatory, but without it, what's the point of being an ultra gamer? lol)

There is only one real point of contention.

A gamer that plays one game incessantly, learns all the tricks and becomes a force to be reckoned with.

He can easily be miscontrued as an UltraGamer. The difference is his learning curve.

If the game changes, say from Quake 3 to SOF2, he will be like a fish out of water. Unable to achieve greatness without prolonged exposure.

This harkens back to that "trained noob" argument that Trinithemc and Crixx raised earlier.

As for Tekken 5 being a shit game, HYMC! Tekken 5 pwns.

Don't worry though, it is obvious that the "latest and greatest" fighting game will dominate the scene. Fanatics will stay with old school favourites but that won't be enough to drive the average joe into the action. Don't try to swim upstream. Go with the flow and be sure to learn the new hot titles on the circuit.

Soul Calibur 3 will soon be out and that will surely take up a slot on the tournament roster.

A big game!

[Kaizen]

t5 is gooooooood but its not the DAMN best so HYMC X2
there are many mixed figihting games me myself being a fps who#e and that alone not considered ..ultra?
face it no one can wtfpwn in every genre ppl specialize in it look at fatl1ty <most respected ultra gamer in ut's base yes he is> right .to me its what genre you pic up and your level of skill its possible to be skilled in 3 genres but ur still a ultra gamer ..
sooo NOT PWNING IN ALL GENRES is bs ..to me the mechanics of all fps is the dam same sorry to say it folks it is just a few new interfaces and once there learned pwning again q3.ut.bf2.sof.cs:source all of em are the same genre same mechanics different game physics not so diff movement either faster slower ..or inbtwn aiming might be slower that can be adjusted  and the amount of weapons you hold special jumps ..some more realistic takes longer for someone to die ...ahhh i make no sense dont i
to make a long story short
AN ULTRA GAMER IS ONE THAT TAKES UP A GENRE AND BECOMES A FORCE A BERSERK THAT CANT BE STOPPED OR IS ONE HELL OF MC COMPETITION .

[TriniXaeno]

well a one trick pony can easily be confused with a trained noob.

remember, this isn't just a "great fps player" we talkin bout.

This is an Ultra Gamer! A man that should be able to represent the gamedom in a great many of it's disciplines.

Like BryanMaster for instance, he is the greatest Tekken player and is also good at other fighting games. We haven't seen what heights he can reach in other genres as yet. As soon as he proves himself in FPS/RTS/Racing/Sport/etc....we will have a new Ultra Gamer on our hands.

It is the equivalent to those sportsmen back in school that kicked ass at both Cricket and Football. Brian Lara is a perfect example. The man made national grade in both Cricket AND Football. That sets him apart from the rest of sportmen that excel in only one.

He may be great at Badminton, but we may never know since he hates the sport (hypothetically speaking) but the fact that he excelled in two is enough to grant him the title.

If a gamer walked into a GL, picked up Quake3 for the first time and 1 week later, he was beating seasoned veterans, then you know...you've got an UltraGamer in the making. Throw him into a few other games/genres and watch the magic unfold.

If he only sticks to that one game (what a shame that will be!)....he may remain lost in the number of trained noobs, lol

It sounds bad, but trained noobs can make for great competitors. This race is not only for the swiftest. Some canned build orders or map waypoints learnt from the 'net can seriously keep 'em in the runnings.

[Kaizen]

hmmm this trained noob madness >_<..<where do we think up these things!!>
i still say that there are people that will pick up a genre on whole and dominate it and in my point of view they are what is a ULTRA GAMER ...
but then we would have to have a different meaning for a gamer that pwnz in multiple genres...
lvl 1 Ultra gamer,Lvl 2 Ultra Gamer etc lol j/k
so once again baego has proven as so it says on his sig an ultra gamer is multitalented..
BUT!!! just beacuse your good at one genre doesnt mean you are a trained n00bl....
how bout calling them a specialists? eh

[4ever_within_uber]

Not really interested in most of what you guys r sayin but isn't 'Trained Noob' an oxymoron? Noob means newbie, lacking experience , a trained person can't be a noob. That is just dumb.

[TriniXaeno]

not really interested in what you are saying either 4ever_within_noober, but for the benefit of the sportsman like gamers on the forum, I shall respond to your drivel.

herein lies the charm of the "title"

a trained noob = a newbie that has learned the nook and cranny of a game and can conduct a scene. He can achieve greatness from hard work. Not a genius like most
ultragamers would be.

Dictionary Meanings:
Genius - Having A strong natural talent, aptitude, or inclination

Newbie - One that is new to something, especially a novice at using computer technology or the Internet.

Noob - acronym for newbie but frequently used with a more derogative overtone.

"Trained Noob" - Used to describe a noob that has achieved competency in a particular discipline through extensive training/exposure.

And you're right Kaizen, in that an ultra gamer can very well be wtfpwning all across one genre. The problem is, it will be difficult to tell if he is one, unless he branches off into other stuff.

How often do you meet a guy that has been playing starcraft or quake 3 for the past 4 years and thinks he is the hottest thing to ever happen to gaming? His apparent skill only came from overexposure.

Throw him in another genre and he is flailing like a 1 legged duck in a whirl pool. Struggling.
lol

[shivadee]

and another point as far as developers are concerned. Ultra gamers dont really mean much to them. All you guys do is play 1 game all the time. What money is in that for them? Gamers and gamers alike may swoon to the Ultra gamer. For someone who is getting into the industry like myself.....its good to know that you love the game, but financially you're a waste of time.

[TriniXaeno]

that goes without saying.

There may be about 50 ultra gamers in the caribbean.

Hardly a big market there! lol

Hell, even our entire population isn't considered a "market" for most of the gaming industry.

That said, Ultra Gamers are the Michael Jordan's and Brian Lara's of electronic sports.

They will enjoy fame and fandom. Not to mention, prize money and trips.

Already, we have guys leaving the island to participate in tournaments abroad and coming back victorious. Setting the stage for even greater things!

Who will we send next year? Not the average gamer that buy Sims 2: Nightlife expansion pack  to contribute to the financial bottom line of the industry. lol

No sir, we will be sending the best of the best of the best!

That is why the issue of Ultra Gamers remains important. They are our flag ship. Standard bearers. Ambassadors.

[Kaizen]

well said earthling! lol
sims 2..is fun ... wtmc
anyhow ..ur sig say you not go in sports i could pwn u in basketball and prolly pwn u in fps bwaagaga  i guess we have it settled

[TriniXaeno]

yeah, pressure for me and sports games. Winning Eleven, NBA Basketball, Brian Lara Cricket, etc.... lihixxxxx immc

lol

advantageous!

[Imperial_X]

Somewhat accurate thread.  Another factor to this formula which some players possess is something referred to as "Ume".

To limit this concept to words, its basically feeling your opponent out.  You sometimes don't even have to think when playing.  Some people call it the zone or whatever.

I dislike the term ultragamer but I can say this;  Any gamer worth his salt never underestimates good competition.  That is why some days you win and some you lose.

[TriniXaeno]

yeah, I know what you mean.

The game just starts to play itself. Like you're on auto-kickass-pilot.

The Zone Pwns.

Another thing I wanna throw in the fray, is consistency.

Not just sporadic feats gaming brilliance.