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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2006, 12:17:31 PM »
A mouse more than makes up for any latency a keybord may have. Reality is reality, in life some things suck and will always suck, a bandit breaking in yuh house and going in the frige will always suck, using a controller over a keyboard will always suck. *Hits console gamers with a keyboard idmc* :ph34r:

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2006, 10:44:40 PM »
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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2006, 11:18:56 PM »
A mouse more than makes up for any latency a keybord may have. Reality is reality, in life some things suck and will always suck, a bandit breaking in yuh house and going in the frige will always suck, using a controller over a keyboard will always suck. *Hits console gamers with a keyboard idmc* :ph34r:
and PoP still blows on a mouse and kb

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #63 on: January 22, 2006, 12:51:40 AM »
cheap shot!

game controllers have been around for decades on the PC platform.

even moreso now with usb.

All of the PC native controllers as well as xbox, gamecube and ps2 controllers can be hooked up to your PC USB port for running those games.


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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2006, 09:21:23 AM »
Hey application still dictates what is better. MMORG==keyboard, Racing==analog/Force feedback teering wheel (note they have this for both PC and console but the PC versions are superior). FPS==mouse. Again its all to do with application.

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2006, 10:25:51 AM »
Yeah, and who can forget, minesweeper==mouse!!

I figure that since they program the games on a PC regardless of what platform they will end up on, odds are the majority of games, especially the good ones will always end up being available on a PC. (One way or another.)

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #66 on: January 23, 2006, 04:36:03 PM »
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Next-gen consoles a patchwork are of missed opportunities

Did they bottle it?

By Stuart Gorman: Monday 23 January 2006, 19:51
CONSOLE MAKERS would have us believe that PCs can't compete with the focus that console hardware puts on games.

But, according to an interesting piece on MegaGames, this next-gen architecture has bottlenecks that make it more like the current-gen than anything radically new.

The claim is that both Sony and Microsoft skimped on the CPU and splurged on making their hardware proprietary. Despite the presence of multiple cores and threads, most processing is funneled through a primary channel, making the next-gen little more powerful than the last generation, and certainly nothing special compared to the mighty PC.

However, what's lacking in the CPU is partially recouped in their GPUs, although the edge gained there may only provide a temporary advantage over PCs, and probably won't stay ahead of the game for the 4-5 years that the next-gen consoles are supposed to last.

This could mean that Nintendo will take the next-gen by storm, depending on what they come up with, or that the uber-next-gen of console will show up even earlier than expected and pick up the slack?

Another possibility, of course, is that the real hardware advances will happen on the PC, leaving console makers to ask, "Did anyone get the license plate on that truck?" as they dawdle along in the slow-lane. µ

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #67 on: January 23, 2006, 09:15:39 PM »
no offense to W1ntry but i really f*cking HATE Megagames and their news. After one reviewer and journalist didnt like a game because he was Brittish.......wtf.....is frigging JSRF.!! Not just that. I have spoken to them SEVERAL times about their articles being misinformed when I used to write articles for Gamedreamz and Gameinfowire. One day a news article up, the next day its edited because of speculated content.....nah man. that is bad news reporting.


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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #68 on: January 24, 2006, 11:20:07 PM »
Hey application still dictates what is better. MMORG==keyboard, Racing==analog/Force feedback teering wheel (note they have this for both PC and console but the PC versions are superior). FPS==mouse. Again its all to do with application.


Hmmmm yes i must agree, and since i am more of a fps person my mouse is my best friend(oh gosh yuh know wat ah mean lol ). POP2 on keyboard and mouse really was a task, cyar finish d game yet lol. Wat does puzzle me is how ppl can play fps on a controler *gasp*

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #69 on: January 25, 2006, 03:46:14 PM »
IMO PC gaming will undergo a lull but lets look at something

a decent to high end homebuild pc runs you around 600 US
the nexgen console runs you 300US basically

Consoles are outselling PC's for the simple fact that they are cheaper and usually "more reliable"

BUT
hardcore gamers and hardcore gamers to be will always use their pc

The bootlegging going on is a major setback for the PC game sales BECAUSE its so much easier to pirate comp games than it is for PS2 or xbox
as their must be modifications done and one  Setta BS therfore there is less money "lost" to pirates than pc games

as well as the fact that hacking an xbox is "slightly more" complicated than cracking a computer/ computer software
therefore pcs will go into a lull
until the game security can be revolutionised
which of course will never ever happen because as fast as new software comes out to protect against piracy more and more creative hackers and crackers find ways around it. This and this alone may bring down the PC gaming genre quite a bit


SO yes PC Gaming will me threatened with extinction but it will never ever die


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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #70 on: January 25, 2006, 05:31:55 PM »
Of course this is a PC thread in a PC section of a PC forum. So yea it have PC support more than anything. One thing for the PC is that this is the platform to see inovation in the GENERAL gaming genre. Only NINTENDO can counter that, that is one company that totally revolutionises gameplay on a regular basis

However on the console you are seeing many remakes and part 2's and 3's. nun wrong with that once its good, Splinter cell 5 is already in production with UBI and 4 not even out yet. SC fans rejoice but others who dont support wont care.

But on PC you see allot more games that inovate their own genre. Far Cry, Half Life 2, UT, BF2, WoW, W3....list goes on. All im saying is that its good to keep an eye on the PC especially in the comming years. However console games will continue to domintae, its cheaper.....which is a main thing.

I didnt know a gamin PC today go run someone 600 US w1ntry? I spend 3 times that on parts alone, and i still adding tings......just put in a SATA HDD some neon and an extra ROM drive. For that performance it go cost paper, but it well worth it eh.

But then, you want to sweat FIFA with yuh padnas.......well console is console.

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2006, 10:34:06 AM »
600USD???? for a gaming rig???? umm.... maybe just the graphics card LOL.. oh btw alot of ppl seem to be omitting the fact that on a console u need a TV. So on the grounds for comparison think of buying a console WITH the TV. And thing of how much a decent say HD TV will run you.... (couple thousand USD) as opposed to a LARGE CRT or even a decent low latency LCD. If you factor that in a console really aint' that cheap. I am sure ppl will say thats irrelevant but I argue that when u buying a PC the screen usually is factored in. Otherwise sure a good rig like shivadee will run u 1900USD JUST for the BOX. And perhaps another 800USD for a decent gaming LCD. But then consider a console could be 4-500USD + a HDTV.... kinda like those bundles they were trying to scam off ppl with the launch of the 360. All kinda 5000-10000USD packages.... now take into consideration the MOST expensive PCs these days (alienware and the like) run up to 8G USD things doh look as bad from the cost perspective. A person willing to pay 8G on a PC is the same kinda person willing to pay 10G for a Xbox 360 with a 52" plasma

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2006, 12:59:14 PM »
Yes it was pointed out in reviews that XBOX 360 games look exceptionally better on a HDTV. you wont see the intricate detail on a CRT.

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2006, 03:28:15 PM »
Precicely. Assigning yourself to one console or platform is only restricting yourself.......How alyuh PC only gamers find Resident Evil 4 was? God of War......wait Shadow of the Colossus.....ohhhhh i see. PC have its hot games......but you cant get everything on a PC.

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2006, 04:01:34 PM »
Anyone who has played a decent MMORPG knows that PC gaming will never and can never die. Consoles rule and will continue to rule the mainstream market but a console can never really compete with a PC in the MMO market. Also evryone in the future will own a PC. Thats an undisputable fact. Everyone will not own a console. in the near future even  old age pensioners will view the PC as a must have device. The PC becuase it will be a default device in every household will ensure the PC gaming will retain a decent share of the general gaming market. Soon when broadband gets faster and cheaper everoneone will have it, from kids in africa and asia to the caribbean and north america. Its a no loose situation.

The production cost of a OC game these is low compared to a console game. Game developers can afford to take more risks. ultimately when the PC will become the  single convergence device. You will use it for tv and movies the internet and for gaming, switching seamlessly from one activity to another without even realising  the difference, genres will merge the lines will become blurred, and given enough time the console not the pc will go the way of the Dodo

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2006, 07:07:59 PM »
Actually in time all people going to sit down with is a keyboard and mouse and everything in them 2 devices. They hookup to an HDTV. Consoles is the medium to MERGE PC to a family system. The console is considered a FAMILY gaming system compared to a PC. Everyone these days have a laptop and  although laptops are not quite as powerful as the PC yet, we can all see it is rapidly catching up. The Battery issue is the only setback but from the jump forom alkaline to NiCd and now Metal Hydrox and LiON batts its only a matter of time something new comes out. Portability is a HUGE issue with the PC

PC and Consoles will merge. And soon you will need 1 device to everything SEEMLESLY. Im saying that because right now you can do just about everything on a PC. But the ease of use for everyone from every age is still an issue. this is where the console comes in. You just put in an play. No Direct X 9 to get, no patch update to go find, everything is like the console now, auto update as the game loads. You can already see this happening with those MMO's that you talking about.
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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #76 on: February 02, 2006, 08:54:14 AM »
Jed nobody eh really hatin on consoles cuz as it turns out most pc gamers also have at least one console, i does stil dust off my ps1 and freak and is true not all games yuh could get in pc (cuz deh hatin on we..mc's) so wuh i cyar get on pc i run on my ps2, but frig dat i love fps and the whole pc gaming experience so i go always dish out cash on my pc like a b!tch... spend more $ on my pc dan on meh own gyal. Not to mention that computes are the future there hear to stay, they will always be here, so i think pc gamers will still exist even though slightly over shadowed by consoles. Not to mention mulitlpayer games, multilayer on a console vs a pc....huh , no comment. Yuh could get decent pc parts cheap these days jed, only if yu goin for new technology then prices go be kinda steep(and thats a never endign battle, cuz new tech all ways comin out), yuh doh need ah high end machine to run d latest games, yuh just have to know wat to buy and when to buy it.


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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #77 on: February 02, 2006, 12:19:04 PM »
the biggest difference with multiplayer on console vs PC is not that PC can have more or has or can have a better online interface....that is a GIVEN. The console difference is that 4 or more people could go to a persons house and play multiplayer with easily.ONE console for 4 people and you on. The ambience is different than online as well, much better i might add. You see your opponents face, their expression when you get a headshot....its a very different experience than online
you CAN obviously do that with PC's but its less likely to see 6-7 people over at a persons house every week playing multiplayer with 6-7 PC's. Im defending the consoles yes. The PC is technologically superior yes, but there is a price.
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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #78 on: February 03, 2006, 12:38:54 PM »
hmm... step in the right direction I say:
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Speculations become official

By Stuart Gorman: Wednesday 01 February 2006, 19:59
IN A press release today, Ubisoft and Capcom announced three games to be ported to the PC.

Ubisoft's new charges include Resident Evil 4, Onimusha 3 and Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening Special Edition. The news regarding RE4 comes as only minor surprise considering this article about RE4's PC availability as of the 31st of March.

Their distribution will hit North America and Europe starting with Onimusha 3 sometime in February of this year. They didn't say whether Devil May Cry 3 is being released before or after Resident Evil 4, but with the overall suddenness of the announcement, it could well be.

RE4 is a heavily-lauded survival horror game, rife with zombies. Onimusha 3 features a medieval Japanese setting for its action-packed adventure. And Devil May Cry 3 carries on the creepiness with a gothic atmosphere and thrilling combat.

Toshihiro Tokumaru, executive officer at Capcom stated, “We look forward to working together for continued growth for both companies.'' Which might be hinting at further distribution deals. Score another thousand points for PC gamers. µ

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Re: PC Gaming Going the way of the Dodo?
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2006, 05:23:47 PM »
I dont think pc gaming would be extinct netime soon, i mean what console system can compete with a fully loaded 4.8Ghz, 2Gig DDR2, 7800 Card pc???

PC has the power (not to mention the 64bit lines)
gamers have more options with pcs n can also network easier than most of them (note not all can be networked easier)...

besides all that the PC can emulate the majority of the console games neway...
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