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« on: May 26, 2005, 12:42:22 AM »
Hoss.... like nVidia real vex with ATI.... They are to launch yet another line of vid cards an may even phase out the present cards....look the specs

NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX (G70) Specs

* 0.11 micron process TSMC
* 430Mhz core / 1.4GHz 256MB GDDR3 memory
* 256-bit memory interface
* 38.4GB/s memory bandwidth
* 10.32Bps Fill Rate
* 860M vertices/second
* 24 pixels per clock
* 400MHz RAMDACs
* NVIDIA CineFX 4.0 engine
* Intellisample 4.0 technology
* 64-bit FP texture filtering & blending
* NVIDIA SLI Ready (7800 GTX only)
* DX 9.0 / SM 3.0 & OpenGL 2.0 supported
* G70 comes with 3 models; GTX, GT and Standard
* Single card requires min. 400W PSU with 12V rating of 26A
* SLI configuration requires min. 500W PSU with 12V rating of 34A
* Launch : 22nd of June 2005

Them specs just MAD jed.................... http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23497
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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2005, 06:27:40 AM »
rofl @ antivirus sig

hahhahahhha

but yeah hoss, that is some serious specs.

I wish they bring it out sooner so the prices of the current cards would fall right now! Cheap 6600GTs for EVERYBODY! muhahaha

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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2005, 05:01:11 PM »
Impresive indeed...can't wait to see analysis & benches of actual silicon...

And damn...the power req specs jus keep goin up and up...26A on the 12V for single and 34A for SLI?! Wow...the PSU companies must be jumpin for joy tho...

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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2005, 05:23:29 PM »
it'll be about 30-40% faster than the 6800 ultra / gt , we'll probably see medium end 200 US Geforce 7 cards by the end of the year, once  90nm manufacturing kicks in .
  Nvidia HAS to bring out bigger guns , ATI developed a way to give us anti aliasing with almost no perfomance hit , with 4x AA at 720p resolution (  i think thats 1290x768)  for the xbox 360 ,  even if ATI cards don't have as much muscle as Nvidia , free anti aliasing should make up for it, plus ATI is using 90nm process, which means alot less power consumtion and lower prices than Nvidia . 
 
 

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System architecture
Now that we've delved into the shaders a bit, we should take a step back and look at the bigger picture. The Xbox 360 GPU not only packs a lot of shader power, but it's also the central hub in the Xbox 360 system, acting as the main memory controller as well as the GPU. The Xbox 360 has 512MB of GDDR3 memory onboard running at 700MHz, with a 128-bit interface to ATI's memory controller. The ATI GPU, in turn, has a very low latency path to the Xbox 360's three IBM CPU cores. This link has about 25GB/s of bandwidth. Feldstein said the graphics portion of the chip has something of a crossbar arrangement for getting to memory, but he didn't know whether the CPU uses a similar scheme.

Embedded DRAM for "free" antialiasing
The GPU won't be using system memory itself quite as much as one might expect, because it packs 10MB of embedded DRAM right on the package. In fact, the Xbox 360 GPU is really a two-die design, with two chips in a single package on a single substrate. The parent die contains the GPU and memory controller, while the daughter die consists of the 10MB of eDRAM and some additional logic. There's a high-speed 2GHz link between the parent and daughter dies, and Feldstein noted that future revisions of the GPU might incorporate both dies on a single piece of silicon for cost savings.

The really fascinating thing here is the design of that daughter die. Feldstein called it a continuation of the traditional graphics pipeline into memory. Basically, there's a 10MB pool of embedded DRAM, designed by NEC, in the center of the die. Around the outside is a ring of logic designed by ATI. This logic is made up of 192 component processors capable of doing the basic math necessary for multisampled antialiasing. If I have it right, the component processors should be able to process 32 pixels at once by operating on six components per pixel: red, green, blue, alpha, stencil, and depth. This logic can do the resolve pass for multisample antialiasing right there on the eDRAM die, giving the Xbox 360 the ability to do 4X antialiasing on a high-definition (1280x768) image essentially for "free"—i.e., with no appreciable performance penalty. The eDRAM holds the contents of all of the back buffers, does the resolve, and hands off the resulting image into main system memory for scan-out to the display.

Feldstein noted that this design is efficient from a power-savings standpoint, as well, because there's much less memory I/O required when antialiasing can be handled on the chip. He said ATI was very power-conscious in the design of the chip, so that the Xbox 360 could be a decent citizen in the living room




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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2005, 09:31:58 AM »
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ATI developed a way to give us anti aliasing with almost no perfomance hit
This is courtesy the 10MB Embedded DRAM...they stated that this is not something that they plan to bring to the PC market for a while as it increases costs quite a bit for the cards...so not sure how valid that point will be...

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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2005, 10:29:32 AM »
To be honest I read that 10MB EDRAM was for HD support more than anything else... but anyways... They do have XDRAM and all sorts of high bandwidth madness in the PS3 to get that kina performance. As for the 7 series (sounds like a BMW cliche) I look forward to it even though I still have AGP myself... however like baego said we could all do with cheaper current series Geforce cards oh and BTW a Nvidia spokesperson was quoted as saying they would NOT phase out the 6 series anytime soon, which is the norm when introducing newer video cards, they simply can't cut production of the former as that creates gaps in the market. More than likely they will keep the 6600 and 6800 line or maybe just the 6800 as a mid range card as they intro the 7800. This only makes sense as the 7800 is the high end of hte demograph for Nvidia and would need to keep their mid and low as thats where ALL the money comes from. So we could possibly be looking at 6600GT as low-med end or mainstream as they refer to them, then 6800 as mid-high and 7800 as the top. At least that makes sense to me.

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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2005, 02:53:10 PM »
hmm so in other words

Nvidia FTW once again.

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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2005, 04:10:13 PM »
That would depend on u being a Nvidia fan or a Xbox 360 fan... or PS3 fan.... we all know in the arena of the PC where yuh loyalties lie.

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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2005, 08:09:21 PM »
once again ???  when was the last time nvidia made the top card ?? the x850xtpe  is the fastest card  inproduction.
and how u could say once again ?? u tested either of those cards or you reading  adds and promo. the point of adds and promos are to make u wanan  buy thei cards, if they didnt they not doing their jobs. never read  or view  a add and let it influene u on buying a  pc part, last time i did i ended up buying a fx 5600.

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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2005, 10:31:15 PM »
 The last time was 6800 ultra vs X800 XT era last year ,   nvidia was faster mostly and alot more cards were available .
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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2005, 02:27:16 AM »
Buh sometimes you can't even trust the benchies.... ATI's always messing with this and nVidia always messing with that...... to motivate their sales... and who can blame them really.... it is business

Waiting abit and allowing all the crap settle can really show who's the victor.... 

To bushman's reply of 850's being the toppa top now........ I have seen websites that say otherwise and they reflect the results based on a very broard scope of benchmarks...

Truth is that ATI nor Nvidia hasn't really shown (atleast me) that either of them are at the top their game

I guess when one purchases a vid card now it's really based on ones personal preferrence....... 

 

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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2005, 06:15:18 AM »
IF you can even purchase it.

Like Trini alluded too in an earlier post, ATI cards are hardly available at the top tier.

Recently we went on what was a wild goose chase looking for a top end ATI card.

Searched the web like crazy, emailed manufacturers and called stores. Salt Butter. No one had it in stock. Those who said they did, lied. We placed the order, only to be greeted with an email a few days later saying it was (surprise surprise) out of stock.

ATI probably make 10 of those cards, pushed to the limit, just to beat nvidia, but are never able to mass produce to the level that nvidia does. Their top end cards are far more readily available.

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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2005, 02:36:19 AM »
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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2005, 01:20:07 AM »
once again bushman talkin out of his a$$

the x850xtpe or wah ever de ass its called is the fastest single card solution.
But of course yu have to sell a buss load of healthy kidneys on de black market to afford it.
While of course two 6600 gts in sli com flikkin pletly own the x850 and cost must be half de price if so much.

For the record, the new 3d 2k5 record is held by a pair of 6600gts in sli.
12500 is the score.

:) of course a x850 doesnt begin to scratch that mark.

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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2005, 09:17:00 AM »
WTMC @ that 3dmark2k5 score.

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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2005, 03:07:10 PM »
 actually 2 6600gts in SLI is cheap , 140 per card and 150 for the board , thats  less than most 6800gts , and it DOESN'T always own an x850 , it still catches its tail in HL2  .
   Fastest solution i'v seen so far is 2 dual  chip 6800gt's  in  SLI, thing bussing 10 000 3dmarks in 2005 .
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2005, 05:01:49 PM »
$140 for a 6600GT?

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Re: Nvidia 7800 GTX
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2005, 10:06:03 AM »
Check newegg, I think they have it close to that. That aside, I wil side with crixx here jus once in that Nvidia has the record as the fastest card around. At least from the OCing point of view. Even a 512 Phased cooled ATI X850XT OC like mad could not beat out the 6800Ultra OCed under similar circumstances. So whilst ATI has the fastest single NON OC solution. The absolute fastest goes to Nvidia (btw there is an actual world over competition to have the fastest card on earth, i'll look for a link). Otherwise ATI is faster on avg in many games and benches but I think nvidia is better at writing drivers and is much less problematic. Those 7800s should kick @$$ as will the next get ATI. As I said before, it boils down to where yuh loyalties lie.

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« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2005, 01:57:56 PM »
3dmark05 is baiased,  run 3dmark05 with DST off and youll see what the card truley does. and look at what your comparing 2 cards vs 1 ???

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