geforce 6800

[azeem]

any stores in trini have the geforce 6800?

[TrinireturnofGamez]

 I'm sure a couple do , but you won't want to buy it in trinidad! its better to find someone with a credit card , and a skybox to order it for you . You'll save half the price or more . 
  Also , give thought to getting a 6600gt , they are much cheaper (50-100 US less)and 99% the speed of a 6800 non ultra .

[azeem]

what bout customs dred? and a reliable cheap site to order from?

[azeem]

would it also be cheaper to order pc parts online and bring them down rather than buying the same parts here?

[TriniXaeno]

we actually offer this service to gatt members since we order stuff from abroad all the time. 10% service charge.

anything on the net, you can get.

delivered to your door. Only catch is you have to pay first and it takes 1-2 weeks typically.

[Kaizen]

 :ph34r:if ur interested i have a 6600 gt 128 mb agp brand new for 1650 and a  pci express version for 1600 someone made me bring them down didnt buy i also am selling a pci express x 800pro for 2100 256 mb the 2 6600gts are 128 and Sli ready u might be better off gettin it with the gatt deal but if u are interested give mea note

[TriniXaeno]

hardly likely that both 6600GTs are SLI ready if one is AGP and one is PCI-E

The AGP card won't support SLI at all.

Given the going price for a 6600GT, US$150.00, that works out to about $900 + shipping and handling unless you got robbed blind.

Why are you selling 'em so expensive?

[Kaizen]

they brand new my mistake on the agp typo error there through a shipping comapny and then theres that 1 year warranty on the card   unless u cover this   forget them mc and i go start buyin from you seriously i blast out tomuch money on pc parts as it is if u have a list pass it on 

[TriniXaeno]

the list is the internet,

anything on the net you can get.

but seriously, what is the price you paid for those cards?

was it really tt$1600.00?

I got one from a guy in a similar situation for $1000.00

If you'd break down the price, I'd take the two of 'em off your hands for the GL.

[Kaizen]

honestly i paid $100 less for each card than the price xcept the x800 pro that is the same price i paid for it thas how much i got charged i could sell them for the price i got them for but like i said once u cover warranty an thing look forward to a serious sale from me within the 2 months i was gonna bring down a 6800 ultra and was gettin charge 3500 :S i know that the price of tha 6600s is a lil over the board but there is always someone down by me to buy them that way thank lord ill make back meh money even if i dont charge the profit

[TriniXaeno]

way, pressura.

Well I know how it is.

We won't cover the warranty ourselves on anything brought down from the net. The manufacturer's warranty applies but it is up to you to handle that.

It is really just a service to the membership to get gaming hardware, anime and games cheap when they dont' want to pay the local store price.

[Kaizen]

Oh Okay well hmm i might still buy a part or 2 as in now if u charge the us price of the dvd and then 10% i go make a lil private message to you that i surely nterested in

[Beomagi]

I'm sure a couple do , but you won't want to buy it in trinidad! its better to find someone with a credit card , and a skybox to order it for you . You'll save half the price or more .
 Also , give thought to getting a 6600gt , they are much cheaper (50-100 US less)and 99% the speed of a 6800 non ultra .

going along with that, 6800 can be had for $170-190 us (depending on stock) 6600gt not much lower. You can take the agp 6800 and unlock the extra 4 pipelines and vertes shader taking your 12p/5v card up to the level of it's superiors - 16p/6v and depending on the card cooling, still increase clocks.

all in all it would net you a res with some aa, above the 6600gt.

[TriniXaeno]

What are the odds of fubar-ing your 6800 in so doing?

We were going all out PCI-E 6600GTs but this 6800 unlocking issue has my interest piqued.

If only the PCI-E version was also unlockable, the decision would be easier.

Pity that only the AGP ver has that option which really messes with our mobo choice.

[Beomagi]

odds are low. I've only READ of a couple people doing it. Noone i know on other forums has damaged their card. It's less risky than say a bios flash. Use riva tuner
http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/
1. install the bootstrap loader
2. click on the custom button for pixel/vertex options
3. open pipes/v-shader

even if you see some artifacting, clocking DOWN slightly with doing this, can still net you a gain in power. You'll gain 33% pixel pushing power : 12->16, 20% vertex power : 5->6. so even dropping the core from 325 to 300 after this is still a gain. With most cards though you should still have some oc headroom after doing this.

keep in mind, that the 6800 is a 6800gt/ultra core, that failed(made a screen booboo) to run at the higher 350MHz core speed. so not only did they lower the speed to 325 (which could have been all they needed to fix the pipes) but they also disable the pipe. If Nvidia had another line of 325MHz 16 pipe cards, some of those chips would be in that pile.

I run a 6800GT and a 6800. both leadtek a400series with the nice big copper coolers. The unlocked 6800 on my xp does an admirable job keeping up with my 6800GT on my 3400+. The gt only beats it in memory bandwidth really at that point. 325vs350 core - too close to really tell, but the higher bandwidth lets me play nearly anything with more AA/AS maybe a higher res.

If you have a copy of morrowind, this is imo one of the best games to test ocing/unlocking with. It's FAR more sensitive to anything compared to doom3, hl2, any 3d or aquamark i've enver used. Erros occur in the water first, so make a new character and run around the start point.

pci-e sure is better, but unused. AGP 4x was barely saturated - it's why the pentium-m was "rediscovered"  as a contender for gaming!(the aopen board only had 4x agp) for SLI, pci-e was needed since, you're doubling data transfer TO and BETWEEN(card to nbridge to card + card to card over sli fixture) cards, from card to card, and 8xAGP only supported 1X rates from cards to north-bridge.

If you HAVE an agp mobo, stick with it for  while. wait till toothing pains for the X2 are over - i.e. mobo bioses aren't burping up errors, and for amd to bring out cheaper ones - only 2.2 and 2.4GHz atm. a 2.0 should fall nicely into the 280 to 320us range, maybe lower if they play cache games with that speed as well, taking the price of the 3500+. If you're patient, wait for M2. Honestly, besides Hammer, cpu speeds have been slow to increase over the last couple years. Of course if you can't wait, take a pci-e mobo. You dont get to play with unlocking 6800's but you do get to play with other cards. and a 6600gt wont dissappoint.

[TrinireturnofGamez]

If you HAVE an agp mobo, stick with it for while. wait till toothing pains for the X2 are over - i.e. mobo bioses aren't burping up errors, and for amd to bring out cheaper ones - only 2.2 and 2.4GHz atm. a 2.0 should fall nicely into the 280 to 320us range, maybe lower if they play cache games with that speed as well, taking the price of the 3500+.

 the X2 doesn't appear to have much trouble working with any mobo once the BIOS is updated., and by the time they are available and the prices fall there will be a wave of new mobo revisions  that support the X2 by default in the BIOS ,
  Also AMD is releasing a low end  dual core opteron on socket 939 , with clock speeds starting at 1.6ghz and ending at 2ghz , it should help fill in the gap between the athlon 64 and X2 , hell we might even see sub 200  US dual core opterons  .  Since Opteron architecture is identical to A64 , and this one only has 1 HTT bus instead of several like the high end ones , it will work with unregistered non ECC ram and normal socket 939 boards .

[TriniXaeno]

sounds like good advice

what are the 3dmark2001, 2003 and 2005 scores of your two rigs?

I am interested in seeing the difference between the two and compare 'em to the 6600GT.

I am well aware that the PCI-E bandwidth isn't all that necessary today. Guess I was a bit starry eyed and just for want of the cool tech in the GL.

If the 6800 scores are impressive enough and the price low enough, we may just change those boards out.

As it stands, 6600 GT PCI-E is still the forerunner. My only concern is the heat output. My theory is that since the 6600GT runs at a much higher clock, it will generate more heat.

However, the 6800 has more transistors. How does it balance out?

[Beomagi]

Also AMD is releasing a low end dual core opteron on socket 939 , with clock speeds starting at 1.6ghz and ending at 2ghz , it should help fill in the gap between the athlon 64 and X2

A dual core opteron on 939 with 1 ht link enabled IS an X2. I dont doubt that amd would release slower X2 processors. They did the same for the rest of the hammer line.


i'm currently having trouble with 3dmark2001. 2005 is low-ish at 4600+, but my 3dmark2001 score is atrocious - 17000-18000 - yes, a radeon 9700pro can hit that. Gaming seems unaffected as far as i can tell, but i still dont like the idea that my card is scoring lower within the chipset family in there. I gotta try a bios flash to see if that helps later.

I got the 6800 when i made my rig in january, for $250us. When the gt went on sale, i got that for $300us, pushed the 6800 to my axp-m rig, and the ti4200 in that went to upgrades for my younger brother.

To be honest, the difference wasn't amazing comparing the unlocked 6800 to the 6800gt. You'll find similar responses online if you look around(considering my performance in that benchmark is tainted, you should). Then again i'm limited to only 1280x1024 cause i switched to LCD monitors. It's hard to move around lugging 2 19"crts

[TriniXaeno]

lol @ LCDs

Yeah, the fixed res is a bxtch.

The 3dmark 2001 scores are deceptively low on the 6600GT as well. I guess they really focused on the next gen stuff. 16000+ in 3dmark 2001 is plenty fast for any dx8 game. That said, it won't score you any points with the benchmark brethren.

The 3dmark 2005 score isn't bad.

Would you mind running a benchmark on both and giving the scores?

I know one has a slower processor but the figures should be interesting still.

Giving a good indication to real world performance on a mid spec machine.

It is easy to find benchmarks on the latest and greatest hardware. Much more difficult if you're looking for middle road performance indicators.

[Beomagi]

It is easy to find benchmarks on the latest and greatest hardware. Much more difficult if you're looking for middle road performance indicators.

good point - especially with current vids and last year (or 2 year?) processors.
I'll run it when i get off work.

also if it interests anyone, heres a decent link
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce6600gt-agp.html
Guessing several here may have 9800s from last year.