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Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« on: June 06, 2005, 08:54:59 AM »
OMFG, wait, thats not good enough HOLY F&*(ING $HIT!!!! as an apple man of youth and an X86 AMD man today, it brings shock and joy to my heart to say, that its been made official. Apple will be going with X86 Based architecture next. Whilst i've always been a fan of their Power Series, it seems Apple is no longer happy with their arrangement with the Big Blue. Not to mention that going with X86 will make their systems FAR more affordable. They are in talks with both Intel and AMD. Its suggested that they will be favouring Intel for the Mobile market, whist AMD may be their desktop processor of choice. This is a VERY big thing pplz, I really will have to keep a close eye and see how this pans out!!! heres the orignal article:

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Apple will switch to X86 processors

Talking to AMD too

By Charlie Demerjian: Sunday 05 June 2005, 06:40

THE RUMOURED APPLE MOVE to x86 is true, the INQUIRER has gotten independent confirmation of this. Prior to publication of this, sources had told the INQ that a switch was in the works. More importantly, they also said that Apple was playing the AMD card at full force, so don't be too surprised if a green logo shows up on some models.

The Intel chips are almost assuredly going to start with a mobile part, probably Yonah, then on to Merom. Both use the same FSB technology, but Merom is faster so the switch will be a fairly painless one. The markets pointed out by CNet back up the idea that Yonah will start it all off, then Conroe and Woodcrest will take over. These sure are interesting times.

This also is in line with an another article regarding Intel and Dell. It was stated in a prev article that it almost seems that Intel created a monster it can't control anymore I.E. (and thats not an acronym for Internet Explorer folks) DELL has grown out of their control and this recent move by apple might indicate that if yuh can't beat em, CONVERT ur nearest competition and start round 2!!! LOL. The article about Dell and Intel can be found here:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23726

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Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« on: June 06, 2005, 08:54:59 AM »

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2005, 07:43:34 PM »
 Apple is moving all their macs to X86 intel architechure by  2007 , with most macs water cooled , and uber effecient multi core processors based on Pentium M technology around the corner , it looks like a fairly good choice . This has many implications for PC users : a new OS ! no more W!ndows domination , once Mac OS is recompiled for X86 architecture ( AMD/intel processor architecture) it means we should be able to run it as easy as we do Windows or Linux as a second OS ..   

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2005, 09:15:38 PM »
* [X]-Baego is in disbelief

Does this mean that we may see OS X on a PC in the not too distant future as well?

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2005, 08:31:58 AM »
Well apparently OS X has been running on X86 processors for almost 5 years now. I figure in the development stages they would have used it to re-write the OS and Optimize it for the POWER5 cores as well as Apple Hardware. I would say that DEFINITELY we will be seeing OS X on a PC in the near (perhaps as early as next year) future. It seems Apple is sleeping in Intels bed however, whether they will go with AMD as well is still unclear. Either way we know once it working on an Intel it go be woking on a AMD so I look fwd to OS X for PCs. Maybe Jobs is looking at taking on Dell and Windows in one fell swoop.

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2005, 11:44:41 AM »
lol wow

signs of armageddon type thing yes

omg wdf is damn right lol
i almost really honestly truly believed we would never see this day.

Does this mean they are cutting all ties with CRY B M? or will they be producing os xi and so forth for both hardware?

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2005, 01:24:54 PM »
Nah, they cutting and moving on. This article is very interesting for anyone interested in teh future of PC's over the next 18months or rather at the start of the next 18months. Crixx boy looks like we shooting across each other bows dread. Ur dell has been forsaken by intel and my apple has forsaken IBM (makers of AMD A64's). Hmm should be interesting indeed.
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Jobs’ blueprint for success in the PC business

Opinion Microsoft and Dell look on. In alarm?

By Jeff Lawson: Tuesday 07 June 2005, 15:55
MAKE A NOTE of this date, Monday 6 June 2005. It may well become logged in the annals of commercial computing as a turning point for Microsoft and Dell.

Microsoft, the company whose operating system software brings daily GUI crashes and folder locks. Dell, the company that proffers market-stall computers with all the glamour of dishwashers.

Enter, Apple.

IBM’s inability to deliver G5 PowerPC processors running at portable temperatures scuppered Apple’s G5 PowerBooks. With IBM’s semiconductor capacity soon to be thrown headlong into production of Cell processors for Sony PS3 and PowerPC processors for Microsoft XBox 360, Apple was compelled to look elsewhere for a reliable horsepower vendor.

Enter, Intel.

Microsoft’s alliance with AMD has brought high-calibre multi-core processors to the PC world and brought it discord with Intel. Intel is bracing itself for the announcement that its pre-eminent customer will be shipping AMD-based systems. Riding on the colossal Dell marketing machine, Athlons and Opterons will get the exposure that AMD would like to give them but cannot afford. In short, Dell is about to take AMD mainstream. Not that Dell particularly wants to lose its cosy relationship with Intel but it wants to lose customers to AMD vendors even less.

The real action will come from Apple and Intel who are too savvy to let their long-standing differences prevent them collaborating in a new PC venture of gargantuan potential. Furthermore, Jobs won’t find the move to Intel quite so distasteful now that his nemesis, IBM, no longer manufactures PCs.

Apple’s receipts from its 76% dominance of the MP3 market plus Intel’s cash mountain gives them the financial clout to take on Microsoft and Dell. Luckily for the Apple-Intel team, they have superior technology too. Granted, Intel’s latest processors are dogs but the main event is eighteen months out, when Microsoft ships Longhorn, so Intel have the interim to get their act together. The next revision of Mac OS X, named Leopard, will be launched then too. Expect to see games running on x86 Leopard as fast as on x86 Longhorn: no need for gamers to run Windows.

In the meantime, Microsoft have the distraction of XBox 360 that will soak up cash in its futile battle against Sony’s PS3. PS3 not only has better hardware but is backward compatible with its predecessors. Dell has seen the writing on the wall and tried to pre-empt Apple by announcing, just a few days ago, its intent to produce upmarket PCs. Well, Dell, you can put lipstick on a pig but that won’t make it more appealing.

On Monday, at the Apple developers’ conference, Steve Jobs demonstrated Mac OS X Tiger running on x86 hardware…without the audience realising that it wasn’t on a PowerPC! Later this month that same hardware will be in the hands of developers. Developers will also get tools to migrate their software to x86. Any software that, due to neglect, doesn’t make it will run on top of a binary translation layer just like the PowerPC version of Microsoft Office did on Monday. The transition is said to be quick and easy and Mathematica was cited as taking just a few hours to recompile with slight tweaks.

Eighteen months and counting. Eighteen months and the choice will be simple: buy a solid operating system running on a PC designed by the coolest computer company ever or buy something of dubious ancestry out of a car boot. Time for fickle investors to repopulate stock portfolios. Time to think different!

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2005, 04:33:42 PM »
This has been the most thought provoking and interesting article that I have read for this year.

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2005, 06:01:14 PM »
I think this is what users have been waiting for...
Stable OS to rival Windoze... LOL... Imagine that indeed. I can dig it, MAC OSXII running on the latest and baddest AMD have to offer. Detonator drivers for Mac, ROFL... I can't hardly wait...

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2005, 12:24:43 AM »
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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2005, 03:34:07 PM »
I gettin goose bumps just thinkin bout it.

Could handle trinity, moms, aunties, de works.

When they could handle directx titles, then they will find themselves on my rig.

Either that, or when all the new games start coming out in OSX vers.

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2005, 12:46:08 PM »
I am sure it'll be pretty easy to port all those Linux versions of games like Unreal Tournament and the like to OSX. Most apps that run on Linux also run on OSX, sure u need a lil recompile and thing but they work none the less. Who knows maybe ppl will start writing the games for OSX first *dare I say more*

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2005, 03:27:14 PM »
interesting that last line try boy, games on osx first hmmmnnn

buh uhh wtf at that mad man who talkin detonator drivers yes steups.

Weak weak weak, we talkin progress here boy Nvidia all de way

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2005, 09:19:30 PM »
ahhmmm, aren't Nvidia drivers referred to as detonator drivers?

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2005, 11:43:06 PM »
well their aren't that many linux games to begin with.

You'd quicker find dedicated server vers before full fledged clients.

So that doesn't help much.

Something that will truly allow dx9 games to run is what we need. Open up the gamespace proper.

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Re: Apple to go with X86, Intel for sure, AMD on board?
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2005, 09:31:16 PM »
take this in yuh pwefm!!!
http://news.com.com/News.com+Extra/2001-9373_3-0.html?tag=rsspr.5748612

MacOS on Intel hardware, but maybe not Windows on Apple hardware?  :huh:

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